Australia - Warriena Wright, 26, dies in balcony fall, Surfers Paradise, Aug 2014 #6

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The pizza is really an eye opener. I couldn't imagine myself firstly noticing I was hungry, buying something to eat, then proceeding to keep it down given what had just occurred. Either he was thinking it could be his last meal before lock up (if he thought maybe the police would take him into custody), or he has amazing emotional control, or he failed to experience the emotions the average person would in this situation. IMO
 
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The pizza is really an eye opener. I know I couldn't imagine myself firstly noticing I was hungry, buying something to eat, then proceeding to keep it down given what had just occurred. Either he was thinking it could be his last meal before lock up (if he thought maybe the police would take him into custody), or he has amazing emotional control, or he failed to experience the emotions the average person would in this situation. IMO

Or he wanted to straighten up a bit before he met dad. Take away some of the 'drunk'. Dad may have issues with his drinking, if it affects his work performance the next day.
I would say that it was definitely all about him, him, him.

I also believe that the delay in reporting to the police gave him the opportunity to straighten up further. And then the 5-hour delay in testing assisted further. Now all they can do is estimate how intoxicated he was.
 
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Or he wanted to straighten up a bit before he met dad. Take away some of the 'drunk'. Dad may have issues with his drinking, if it affects his work performance the next day.
I would say that it was definitely all about him, him, him.

how many times in one life would someone fall off your 14th floor balcony??..... you know they are dead. you know you locked them out on that balcony.. ( I do not understand how he says to Dad, ' I hope she isn't dead'... what?.. 14 floors? straight down to concrete??.. )... he just strolls along, nothing fazes our Gabe!!
 
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Good job Fruit. Now you have your signature. But still put jmo at the end of your comments to be safe.

Jmo.

IMO (in my opinion) and MOO (My Opinion Only) are also more commonly used here.
 
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Or he wanted to straighten up a bit before he met dad. Take away some of the 'drunk'. Dad may have issues with his drinking, if it affects his work performance the next day.
I would say that it was definitely all about him, him, him.
All I know is that GT has food on his mind often. *I'm not taking a jab at his weight either* He did ask Warriena if she wanted to go for a walk to get something to eat earlier on that night. He also offered to cook her something to eat later on in the night. She turned down the offer both times, so maybe he was starving and thought with something in his stomach he'd be able to think more clearly..who knows!
 
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All I know is that GT has food on his mind often. *I'm not taking a jab at his weight either* He did ask Warriena if she wanted to go for a walk to get something to eat earlier on that night. He also offered to cook her something to eat later on in the night. She turned down the offer both times, so maybe he was starving and thought with something in his stomach he'd be able to think more clearly..who knows!

Yes, I actually think that is most likely. I don't think he was that drunk. I think he liked to be sure that his body could perform iykwim.
He had expressed an interest in Warriena staying for the whole night.
 
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Or he wanted to straighten up a bit before he met dad. Take away some of the 'drunk'. Dad may have issues with his drinking, if it affects his work performance the next day.
I would say that it was definitely all about him, him, him.

I also believe that the delay in reporting to the police gave him the opportunity to straighten up further. And then the 5-hour delay in testing assisted further. Now all they can do is estimate how intoxicated he was.

Great point SouthAussie. Which if true goes hand in hand with the whole emotional detachment, self-preservation question. IMO he knew he had contributed to Warriena falling off the balcony. He was intoxicated, but instead of calling emergency services he ran (for all he knew at the time, medical attention could have saved her life, but instead he was thinking about himself).

If his actions were because he wanted to sober up, figure out how he was going to distance himself from what happened, it shows cognitive functioning and reasoning, even if it was somewhat impaired. And it should be noted that he wasn't stumbling into people, walking in the middle of the road, blind drunk in other words. He was cognizant enough to engage in problem-solving thinking and that is why I think he has emotional detachment. Why, who knows. Sociopath? Maybe. Sociopathic tendencies? Definitely!!
 
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how many times in one life would someone fall off your 14th floor balcony??..... you know they are dead. you know you locked them out on that balcony.. ( I do not understand how he says to Dad, ' I hope she isn't dead'... what?.. 14 floors? straight down to concrete??.. )... he just strolls along, nothing fazes our Gabe!!

and he asked dad to drive past the apartment to see what was happening. :notgood:
 
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Great point SouthAussie. Which if true goes hand in hand with the whole emotional detachment, self-preservation question. IMO he knew he had contributed to Warriena falling off the balcony. He was intoxicated, but instead of calling emergency services he ran (for all he knew at the time, medical attention could have saved her life, but instead he was thinking about himself).

If his actions were because he wanted to sober up, figure out how he was going to distance himself from what happened, it shows cognitive functioning and reasoning, even if it was somewhat impaired. And it should be noted that he wasn't stumbling into people, walking in the middle of the road, blind drunk in other words. He was cognizant enough to engage in problem-solving thinking and that is why I think he has emotional detachment. Why, who knows. Sociopath? Maybe.

And we learned later that he had a high range drunk dangerous driving charge against him at the time, too. That may have played a part in his convoluted thinking.

Drinking - dangerous/violent actions - the death of someone within his duty of care (invited guest) - police ...........
 
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Great point SouthAussie. Which if true goes hand in hand with the whole emotional detachment, self-preservation question. IMO he knew he had contributed to Warriena falling off the balcony. He was intoxicated, but instead of calling emergency services he ran (for all he knew at the time, medical attention could have saved her life, but instead he was thinking about himself).

If his actions were because he wanted to sober up, figure out how he was going to distance himself from what happened, it shows cognitive functioning and reasoning, even if it was somewhat impaired. And it should be noted that he wasn't stumbling into people, walking in the middle of the road, blind drunk in other words. He was cognizant enough to engage in problem-solving thinking and that is why I think he has emotional detachment. Why, who knows. Sociopath? Maybe. Sociopathic tendencies? Definitely!!

Mens Rea = guilty mind.
 
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Where I'm at right now is feeling very pissy about the police "not knowing" 1. WHO put the 'scope back together after it was photographed as evidence and 2. WHY they "don't know why" Tostee wasn't tested for 14 hrs. Both potentially crucial bits of evidence, and apparently they can't even investigate themselves.

If they could test the person who touched it, maybe the DNA results would be less "complex", whatever that means.

Still, they did not state Warriena's DNA was on it, anywhere, Only Tostee's... and think about what that could do to the credulity of his narrative.
 
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Mens Rea = guilty mind.

You do know whenever I hear that now I am going to think of you and your beautiful black and red avatar lady lol
 
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and he asked dad to drive past the apartment to see what was happening. :notgood:

Yeah, but not to stop and see if he and his father could help in any way. Oh no, he didn't do that!
 
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Who are you talking to?

Just trying to help eliminate some back and forth arguments that had nothing to do with the case.

Thats all.
 
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with respect, you are mistaken. .....it is common, and goes to the heart of the accused presentation , his employer for example would , could testify to his punctuality and general honesty, perhaps a former girlfriend.. it is not at all unusual, as anyone who attends court on a regular basis would themselves attest to.

I once asked a court reporter how one could tell who was the witness for the accused character, and he said, his infallible rule was to check their shoes out. Always inappropriate footwear.

After 38 years in a particular industry I feel confident the above is totally legitimate, always check the shoes.
 
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Yeah, but not to stop and see if he and his father could help in any way. Oh no, he didn't do that!

Gee, why would they stop? The deceased, was deceased, beyond help in any way.
 
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