Australia - Warriena Wright, 26, dies in balcony fall, Surfers Paradise, Aug 2014 #6

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Odd, he had his recording that demonstrated he had done nothing wrong. But he chose to phone his solicitor at speed and failed to call 000.
imo

The recording is the recording. It demonstrates what happened. That's the end of that. There was no need for him to call 000. There were first responders all over the place, already there. Given that was the fact, what is so suspicious about calling for the very help you need in such a circumstance. Who else would it be wise to call?
 
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Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou [video=twitter;786801472516141056]https://twitter.com/KateKyriacou/status/786801472516141056[/video]
Holt says more importantly, where is the evidence #tostee even knew how to do a "military-style hold"?


Where did the prosecutor ever mention "military-style hold"? This bloke is making stuff up as he goes along. He's already contradicted himself on a few occasions now.


Can you be specific?
 
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The recording is the recording. It demonstrates what happened. That's the end of that. There was no need for him to call 000. There were first responders all over the place, already there. Given that was the fact, what is so suspicious about calling for the very help you need in such a circumstance. Who else would it be wise to call?

Didn't we clear that up earlier...Ghostbusters, definitely Ghostbusters.
 
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[video=twitter;786805360971481088]https://twitter.com/KateKyriacou/status/786805360971481088[/video]
 
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The recording is the recording. It demonstrates what happened. That's the end of that. There was no need for him to call 000. There were first responders all over the place, already there. Given that was the fact, what is so suspicious about calling for the very help you need in such a circumstance. Who else would it be wise to call?

I would have thought only an utter 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 would do that.
 
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[video=twitter;786805659723370496]https://twitter.com/KateKyriacou/status/786805659723370496[/video]
 
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[video=twitter;786805815936024576]https://twitter.com/KateKyriacou/status/786805815936024576[/video]
 
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[video=twitter;786806019712102401]https://twitter.com/KateKyriacou/status/786806019712102401[/video]
 
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If Warriena is adjudged as 'hysterical' then everything falls into place for Gabe.. I am hoping the jury sees this as a matter they are entitled to pronounce on, not the defence, or even the prosecutor, that the jury are the ones who decide who is 'hysterical' or not. And since they jury has only the tape to go on, since Gabe didn't tell us the attitude and inferences of Warriena, pre his having to 'restrain ' her , then that tape does not tell a normal person that Warriena is hysterical.

It tells a normal person that she is intoxicated, on something far more poisonous than the 6 pack of beer that was purchased, that she knows she is terribly, mysteriously intoxicated, that she feels ill , and frightened , that she fights back when she can, but that isn't often,

and then she was scared beyond all reason, by something inside that apartment. Gabe gesturing, Gabe holding something, or Gabe pretending to go out the front door and leave her stranded on the balcony. Then she was hysterical.
 
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Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou [video=twitter;786806300466290692]https://twitter.com/KateKyriacou/status/786806300466290692[/video] Holt says Tostee's conduct afterwards has nothing to do with whether he is responsible for her death.
 
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I am seriously not understanding the comments saying 'he didn't know she would go over the balcony, therefore he is not guilty of murder'. He is not charged with premeditated murder. He is charged with murder due to instilling such a fear in Warriena that she fled using the only avenue that she could see open to her at the time.

In QLD there is so such charge as premeditated murder. It's just murder regardless of the level of premeditation.

The essential element (well actually one of a few) in proving murder is that the accused must have intended to cause grievous bodily harm to the victim or kill them. Choking or attempting to choke someone could amount to GBH in some circumstances (not a given though) however the prosecution in this case has failed to produce any credible evidence of this occurring. I cannot categorically say that it did not happen of course, but the evidence presented falls way short of the standard required and such Gable will be found not guilty of murder. If the jury somehow returned a finding of guilt it would be overturned on appeal, however I don't anticipate that there will be any need for an appeal.
 
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The recording is the recording. It demonstrates what happened. That's the end of that. There was no need for him to call 000. There were first responders all over the place, already there. Given that was the fact, what is so suspicious about calling for the very help you need in such a circumstance. Who else would it be wise to call?

As we have stated, ad nauseum, the first responders were NOT already there. They were there by the time Tostee had fiddled around, dressed, exited his apartment, re-entered his apartment, exited his apartment again, waited for the lift, and went downstairs. THEN he noticed they were there. Then he went to the basement and slipped away.
 
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I would have thought only an utter 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 would do that.

Exactly Fluffykins. There are no sirens heard on the tape as Tostee is dialling his lawyer. He phoned his lawyer before police and emergency services even had a change to get there.
 
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Entertainment value via intimidation. Tostee IMO was getting off (intellectually, sexually, anyone's guess) on the control he was wielding over her. In his eyes, I believe he enjoyed seeing how women reacted when he did certain things, acted certain ways. Here he had an intoxicated and clearly distressed woman, expressing and displaying fear, and he was toying with her. I think I have explained why I think he put her out there in enough posts now, people are going to get sick of hearing it lol.:twocents:

^^This! Absolutely! And because he's the conductor, the orchestra is the tape (his deranged masterpiece) and the truth is only known by those present.

He was messing with her psychologically & physically hiding her belongings, feeding her strong home brew & her so called strange reactions/ behaviour were possibly the result of self protection. MOO




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[video=twitter;786806757662167041]https://twitter.com/KateKyriacou/status/786806757662167041[/video]
 
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well. the recording heard in court isn't exactly The Recording.. Gabe fiddled with it a bit and moved it from one device to another, and there is odd gaps here and there.

so the recording isn't Quite The Recording at all. it isn't the original recording. Everyone knows that.
 
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I would have thought only an utter 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 would do that.

Basically the same as a hit and run. Why bother to stop to help? The victim is already dead.

Boggles the mind how some people think!
 
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