Australia - Warriena Wright, 26, dies in balcony fall, Surfers Paradise, Aug 2014 #6

[Estelle]

POLL ON TWITTER

Stuart Burgess ‏@ExternaInternal 42m42 minutes ago
Both cases have been made in the #Tostee trial. What's your verdict Twitter? 2hr poll for those closely following
04%Guilty - Murder
40%Guilty - Manslaughter
52%Not Guilty
04%Undecided
25 votes•1 hour left

https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&q=#tostee poll&src=typd

WHAT IS YOUR PREDICTION?

 

[Makara]

There's poll on Twitter about the outcome of the trial if anyone want's to go and vote

You can find it with the #tostee

Interesting isn't it? I'm trying to organise a poll thread for us. Stay tuned.

 

[Strangeworld]

Strangeword, put you're bloody apron back on! You're naked! :facepalm: :lol:

Bahahahahaha...
OMG Makara, you are becoming hysterical and we all know what trouble hysterical women get themselves into :laughing:

 

[Fieldsroyal]

We're talking about a jury here - always doubts

 

[Elde Fruit]

We're talking about a jury here - always doubts

If you can see doubt, aren't they entitled to (nay, obliged to) acquit?

 

[Elde Fruit]

Interesting isn't it? I'm trying to organise a poll thread for us. Stay tuned.

I wonder what the outcome of that will be? (I dunno how to find Threads here yet, so please post a link when you do. TYIA.)

 

[Amee]

Jodie & Soda speak with Channel TEN Reporter Jonathan Lea who has been in the courtroom of one of Australia's biggest trials this year the Gable Tostee Tinder trial.

https://soundcloud.com/mix1023/inside-the-courtroom-of-the-gable-tostee-trial

 

[SouthAussie]

If you can see doubt, aren't they entitled to (nay, obliged to) acquit?

Doubt in which way a jury will swing. Not doubt in the innocence or guilt of the defendant.
I think Fieldsroyal has already expressed their personal opinion on that.

 

[SouthAussie]

Jodie & Soda speak with Channel TEN Reporter Jonathan Lea who has been in the courtroom of one of Australia's biggest trials this year the Gable Tostee Tinder trial.

https://soundcloud.com/mix1023/inside-the-courtroom-of-the-gable-tostee-trial

Ooohhh .... don't listen if you don't want to hear Warriena's screams.

Otherwise, it seems Tosser has remained very calm throughout the trial.

Paraphrase of sections of the interview with Jonathan:

Tostee’s demeanour: Been very careful not to say anything. Very cool, calm. No reaction to Warriena’s screams in the recording. Aware the jury is watching him.
Reaction of the general public to Warriena’s screams … horrendous.
People want to know, how do you sit and eat pizza after that?

 

[Makara]

Ben Murphy ‏@BenBMurph [video=twitter;786832663885807616]https://twitter.com/BenBMurph/status/786832663885807616[/video]
What does Spiderman have to do with Gable Tostee's murder trial? Details tonight at 6pm #Tostee @7NewsQueensland

 

[Trooper]

what I think.. provisionally.. I think that the jury will not appreciate that tape being parsed and interpreted for them....to them. I think they will reject quite a lot of Holt's take on what was happening, and even more on what Gabe was thinking while it was going on. And the jury is entitled to do that, as Gabe hasn't got up on the stand to interpret his feelings and corresponding actions to the jury.

He has taken the gamble that the tape, and his barristers interpretation of it will get him off.. I just don't see how that can happen. because a lot of Holt's interpretation didn't add up. There was lots he left out.. 'I'm not letting you go home, you are a bad girl'.. you're lucky I don't chuck you off the balcony.. '. all this stuff, and more .. it all had the air of improvisation.

Maybe if Gabe had explained his thought processes himself.. how he saw things, what he did, why he did it.. that might help..

But without that, I have huge doubts that Gabe can get out from under this , based on the tactics of his defence strategy.. I am not privy as to how much Gabe paid for this defence, obviously, there wasn't any money spent on experts, behavioural experts, of both Tostee and Warriena, experts on deciphering taped events where one party is unaware of the recording, experts on human reactions, all sorts of experts.. no money was spent on character analysis of Tostee, or psychiatric assessment..

Holt interpreting Tostee just didn't come off, for me. There was too much emphasis on how Gabe did the correct thing, yet there wouldn't be more than .03% of people out there who would agree with that assessment. And most of those would be under strenuous psychiatric observation and medication..

soo.. we wait.

 

[Fluffykins]

https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&q=#tostee poll&src=typd

WHAT IS YOUR PREDICTION?

Such a small poll; won't tell us anything. I personally think he'll get off. I also think even if he does, he has a big problem for the rest of his life in that only the most stupid women will be attracted to him.

 

[Elde Fruit]

.......yet there wouldn't be more than .03% of people out there who would agree with that assessment. And most of those would be under strenuous psychiatric observation and medication..

1. Where does that '.03% of people.....etc' come from? Thin air?
2. If he is acquitted, your comment means that the Jury must be 'under strenuous psychiatric observation and medication.'

 

[snm35]

The prosecution stating that any ordinary person could've foreseen her jumping from the balcony is absolutely preposterous.

 

[Fluffykins]

But without that, I have huge doubts that Gabe can get out from under this , based on the tactics of his defence strategy..

soo.. we wait.

I hope and pray you're right about that, but I don't think the prosecution did a good enough job. I think at the very least there should have been expert analysis of the latter part of the recording, and without that I'm afraid the jurors won't be able to put themselves in her shoes enough to see that in her mind she was fleeing a desperate situation.

I hope I'm wrong. Going to feel like a long weekend.

 

[Trooper]

I think any reasonable person would never lock a terrified ( who was deliberately terrified, over quite a long period of time ) intoxicated ( who was plied with home made hooch to a poisonous degree) woman on a balcony she had no escape from except over it. Once that door is locked the deprivation of her liberty and her subsequent bid to claim it back all points to murder by Tostee.

Tostee was entitled to get her out of his home, but he didn't. He didn't evict her into the common hallway, he locked her out on the extension of his home, his balcony. No way can that be described as getting some one out of your home. You , and I , are not entitled to lock people up on your balcony that has no escape except back into the living areas.. So we can dispense with that furphy for all time, that one isn't going to work..

 

[shultz]

I think any reasonable person would never lock a terrified ( who was deliberately terrified, over quite a long period of time ) intoxicated ( who was plied with home made hooch to a poisonous degree) woman on a balcony she had no escape from except over it. Once that door is locked the deprivation of her liberty and her subsequent bid to claim it back all points to murder by Tostee.

Tostee was entitled to get her out of his home, but he didn't. He didn't evict her into the common hallway, he locked out on the extension of his home, his balcony. No way can that be described as getting some one out of your home. You , and I , are not entitled to lock people up on your balcony that has no escape except back into the living areas.. So we can dispense with that furphy for all time, that one isn't going to work..

We can all dream about implausible scenarios and impossible outcomes but come Monday, Tostee is having a stroll.

Looks like the sleazy recording saved his life after all.

 

[Trooper]

I hope and pray you're right about that, but I don't think the prosecution did a good enough job. I think at the very least there should have been expert analysis of the latter part of the recording, and without that I'm afraid the jurors won't be able to put themselves in her shoes enough to see that in her mind she was fleeing a desperate situation.

I hope I'm wrong. Going to feel like a long weekend.

there was , certainly, place for all those things , expert analysis of how people react to imposed terror, etc.. I agree with that..

However, that tape was so illustrative of her terror in those wordless and wordfull screams. ... that was the real thing, and cannot be forgotten, ever, that it stood alone as its own testimony.

Whether Gabe realised it or not, he was in the witness box, that tape was his testimony, too...He may have got away with giving no chance of being cross examined, but he certainly gave a powerful testimony as participant and witness to her death. ..

 

[possumheart]

Every morning and evening, my balconies fill up with birds. For the last two years I have thought of her every time I feed them. I have visited the apartment building. I have been to the places she went. I would have liked for her to have seen the tree kangaroos at Fleahy's.
who knows what the jurors are thinking tonight

 

[Makara]

there was , certainly, place for all those things , expert analysis of how people react to imposed terror, etc.. I agree with that..

However, that tape was so illustrative of her terror in those wordless and wordfull screams. ... that was the real thing, and cannot be forgotten, ever, that it stood alone as its own testimony.

Whether Gabe realised it or not, he was in the witness box, that tape was his testimony, too...He may have got away with giving no chance of being cross examined, but he certainly gave a powerful testimony as participant and witness to her death. ..

Do the jury get to listen to the tape while they're deliberating?