Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #15

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  • #341
This is very similar to what I am thinking.
I think BS has seen a photo of William while at grandmas house, and she has mentioned they are coming to visit.
Williams mum said on 60 minutes something about how William could really grab people's attention, and that they would turn their heads to look at him (he is an extremely cute little boy).
Maybe I watch too much Criminal Minds, but even if William isn't to BS's "taste", he may be exactly what other people in the "ring" might want.
Maybe BS has informed the ring of this child and let them know that he is scheduled to go back at some point to fix the washing machine (thus giving him a legitimate reason to go back to the house).
The two cars parked across the road may not have been involved at all (meaning it was solely BS involved) .... OR those cars may have been there as a lookout, to possibly scope out if the parents left the house / kids were playing outside etc. They then could have let BS know the best time to "coincidently" turn up to do the repair.
BS can go to the house and try his luck. If by chance he is spotted, he can simply claim he is there to fix the washing machine. If he's not spotted, then he simply grabs William and flees before anybody even realises.
Of course, if the other cars weren't involved, then he simply took his chance by going there on the Friday, because grandma had already mentioned that's when they would be there.
I'm also thinking that if the other cars were involved, they possibly left just prior to the abduction, but parked somewhere close by, so that BS could probably deliver William straight to them, thus if anybody suspected him at all, he would not have William in his possession.

edit - this theory could also fit in with when BS and MS were being questioned by the media that time and he said something like "I did not hurt him" .... i.e. he personally didn't do anything to William (apart from snatching him)

I agree with most of what you said. However, there has to be more to it. Why choose William over any other child? Particularly when there were three adults residing in the house at the time. Surely a single mother with multiple children would be an easier target. There must be something key about William that we're missing.
 
  • #342
I just cant imagine that BS would be that clever. Whoever did this has done it before IMO

I'm still of the opinion he was indirectly involved. I don't think he took William but knows who did.
 
  • #343
There is also no information available to say that BS was ever inside any room of the house to see any photos of anyone, the laundry looks to be accessible from outside, as most are. How could he have known that William liked spiderman as his mother says it was a new interest for him.
Opportunistic, I can't see anyone planning a kidnap based on such flimsy circumstances being known.
 
  • #344
My thoughts right now are that it was a planned abduction with BS being the MASTERMIND behind the plot.
The 2 parked cars that foster mum saw on the Thursday night in the street were planning abduction for the Friday morning.
BS had been to grandmas home re fixing the washing machine and she mentioned innocently to BS that she needed washing machine fixed as she was expecting little William*s family on the Friday morning. BS ordered the washing machine part and we all know what happened after that.
The white 4WD would be the pickup vehicle for little William for the Friday morning. The other 2 parked cars were in place for the Friday morning. The white 4WD is not there yet. The 2 drivers of the parked cars phoned driver of the white 4WD to say that the children were running around playing in the yard and the time is right for the pickup.
The white 4WD proceeds along Benaroon Drive and kept the motor running while the other 2 drivers grabbed little William. It took the 2 of them (one to grab little William and the other to cover his little mouth so he could not be heard calling out) and little William was placed in the white 4WD that sped away, remembering that foster mum said she felt that little William was just snatched and then he was gone. It all happened so quickly. That is the only thing my intuition is telling me. Whoever the drivers of the white 4WD and other 2 cars pictured hopefully we will learn soon.
I just hope and pray that it will all be solved soon for the sake of the family as it has dragged out too long. Its the not knowing what happened.
From what we can presume BS was the only other person who knew about little Williams family arriving on the Friday morning. I feel that the whole thing was expertly and precisely planned...all happened so quickly.
I hope that I haven't broken any rules with my thoughts on this. Sorry if I have...MOO!!!
 
  • #345
My thoughts right now are that it was a planned abduction with BS being the MASTERMIND behind the plot.
The 2 parked cars that foster mum saw on the Thursday night in the street were planning abduction for the Friday morning.
BS had been to grandmas home re fixing the washing machine and she mentioned innocently to BS that she needed washing machine fixed as she was expecting little William*s family on the Friday morning. BS ordered the washing machine part and we all know what happened after that.
The white 4WD would be the pickup vehicle for little William for the Friday morning. The other 2 parked cars were in place for the Friday morning. The white 4WD is not there yet. The 2 drivers of the parked cars phoned driver of the white 4WD to say that the children were running around playing in the yard and the time is right for the pickup.
The white 4WD proceeds along Benaroon Drive and kept the motor running while the other 2 drivers grabbed little William. It took the 2 of them (one to grab little William and the other to cover his little mouth so he could not be heard calling out) and little William was placed in the white 4WD that sped away, remembering that foster mum said she felt that little William was just snatched and then he was gone. It all happened so quickly. That is the only thing my intuition is telling me. Whoever the drivers of the white 4WD and other 2 cars pictured hopefully we will learn soon.
I just hope and pray that it will all be solved soon for the sake of the family as it has dragged out too long. Its the not knowing what happened.
From what we can presume BS was the only other person who knew about little Williams family arriving on the Friday morning. I feel that the whole thing was expertly and precisely planned...all happened so quickly.
I hope that I haven't broken any rules with my thoughts on this. Sorry if I have...MOO!!!

Where has it been said the cars were seen in the street on the Thursday night?
I only recall it being said she remembered on the Friday night that she had seen them that morning.
 
  • #346
Where has it been said the cars were seen in the street on the Thursday night?
I only recall it being said she remembered on the Friday night that she had seen them that morning.

Agreed that's what I read too
 
  • #347
New article Criminal profiler outlines the likely type of abductor

"Now psychologist Sarah Yule, who is a key member of Strike Force Rosann investigating the disappearance of the toddler has revealed details about the person who may have snatched William.

Dr Yule is the Police Force's Senior Forensic Psychologist and manager of its Behavioural Science Team, attached to the Forensic Services Group.

'With the investigation focussing on a possible abduction, there was only a narrow window of opportunity to take William,' she said.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...er-hunt-enters-second-year.html#ixzz3la0dqcST
 
  • #348
That is interesting. I still wonder why they were removed...

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From the biological mother or from the Speddings? I'm curious about why they were removed from their mother in the first place but they would have been removed from the Speddings because of the allegations against him. I'm pretty sure there is something about this in previous threads with links to media reports explaining when and why.

“We would particularly like to hear about anyone who has been quite deliberate in avoiding the publicity about William’s abduction or in contrast, anyone who has been uncharacteristically, overly interested in the case.”

http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/news/l...vdi5hdSUyRm1lZGlhJTJGNDg2MDQuaHRtbCZhbGw9MQ==

Back when MS and Colin were still talking to the media she wanted it to be known that they had been offered significant amounts of money for media interviews.
Which is why I do not understand - BS face book video to deny media reports that he was expected to be at the grandma's house on the morning of the 12th Sept.
Why not tell your side of the story if you have a sound alibi and truly believe you are innocent of any wrong doing?
Why not have a chat to the media? If you do not want to show your face - do a radio interview. Why facebook?
imo

I would love to know why he posted his own reply but I think if I was in a similar position I would want total control over what I put out. Was it the right move by him? I don't know, but I don't know what his reasoning behind it was or his motivation. I saw a very scared man, either because he's guilty as heck and he knows his days are numbered, he's been forced to do it by a third party or that he's sick of being constantly hounded by the media and strangers (he said he had had prowlers around, and I'm not surprised there are people like that out there going by the dreadful comments I've read online calling for his head).

I'm not a BS sympathiser, I still believe he's indirectly involved in William's disappearance and the allegations of sexual abuse of the little girls warrants a hanging if he's found guilty, but there are so many crazy keyboard warriors/vigilantes out there I'd be surprised if the Speddings/bio family/foster family aren't afraid of what some idiot could do.
 
  • #349
My thoughts right now are that it was a planned abduction with BS being the MASTERMIND behind the plot.
The 2 parked cars that foster mum saw on the Thursday night in the street were planning abduction for the Friday morning.
BS had been to grandmas home re fixing the washing machine and she mentioned innocently to BS that she needed washing machine fixed as she was expecting little William*s family on the Friday morning. BS ordered the washing machine part and we all know what happened after that.
The white 4WD would be the pickup vehicle for little William for the Friday morning. The other 2 parked cars were in place for the Friday morning. The white 4WD is not there yet. The 2 drivers of the parked cars phoned driver of the white 4WD to say that the children were running around playing in the yard and the time is right for the pickup.
The white 4WD proceeds along Benaroon Drive and kept the motor running while the other 2 drivers grabbed little William. It took the 2 of them (one to grab little William and the other to cover his little mouth so he could not be heard calling out) and little William was placed in the white 4WD that sped away, remembering that foster mum said she felt that little William was just snatched and then he was gone. It all happened so quickly. That is the only thing my intuition is telling me. Whoever the drivers of the white 4WD and other 2 cars pictured hopefully we will learn soon.
I just hope and pray that it will all be solved soon for the sake of the family as it has dragged out too long. Its the not knowing what happened.
From what we can presume BS was the only other person who knew about little Williams family arriving on the Friday morning. I feel that the whole thing was expertly and precisely planned...all happened so quickly.
I hope that I haven't broken any rules with my thoughts on this. Sorry if I have...MOO!!!

A White 4WD? I had been wondering what colour it was. When was this info released and do you have a link please? Also the info about the cars seen Thursday night? (have been away and missed this update)
 
  • #350
I don't see why they'd plan it to the nth degree. The perpetrator had no way of knowing the child/ren would be in a situation where they'd be alone at any time. It had to be opportunity. Nothing else makes logical sense.
 
  • #351
Police are now focusing their investigation on the finding the drivers of cars spotted on the street on the day of William's disappearance.
They are described as a speeding white four-wheel-drive, and a dark grey older-style, medium sized sedan, and an old, white station wagon.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ok-little-boy-disappeared-year-ago-today.html




Here it is Amee [emoji3]
A White 4WD? I had been wondering what colour it was. When was this info released and do you have a link please? Also the info about the cars seen Thursday night? (have been away and missed this update)


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  • #352
New article Criminal profiler outlines the likely type of abductor

"Now psychologist Sarah Yule, who is a key member of Strike Force Rosann investigating the disappearance of the toddler has revealed details about the person who may have snatched William.

Dr Yule is the Police Force's Senior Forensic Psychologist and manager of its Behavioural Science Team, attached to the Forensic Services Group.

'With the investigation focussing on a possible abduction, there was only a narrow window of opportunity to take William,' she said.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...er-hunt-enters-second-year.html#ixzz3la0dqcST

I had the feeling that this was, again, directed at someone or someones. I feel like the police are building up to something big and we are all going to be gobsmacked at what is released.
 
  • #353
A White 4WD? I had been wondering what colour it was. When was this info released and do you have a link please? Also the info about the cars seen Thursday night? (have been away and missed this update)
It was stated on this thread a few days ago that the 4WD was white, also that the foster mum had to collect someone from the airport on the Thursday night and she noticed the 2 parked cars as she drove out, also they were still there the following morning on the Friday. I will search and try to find where I read it, as it was the first time that I had read it as well.
 
  • #354
Where has it been said the cars were seen in the street on the Thursday night?
I only recall it being said she remembered on the Friday night that she had seen them that morning.
I read on this thread a few days ago that foster mum had to pick someone up from the airport on the Thursday night. As she drove out she noticed the 2 parked cars and they were still there on the Friday morning. I hadn't read this before either. I will do a search and try to find the post.
 
  • #355
I read on this thread a few days ago that foster mum had to pick someone up from the airport on the Thursday night. As she drove out she noticed the 2 parked cars and they were still there on the Friday morning. I hadn't read this before either. I will do a search and try to find the post.

No, she noticed the 2 cars on the morning William disappeared, when she was with William.
That night, AFTER he had gone missing, she then remembered the cars. She picked her sister up the Friday night.

Listen to the audio of the 'mum' in this link.
http://dailytelegraph.com.au/news/n...r-other-children/story-fni0cx12-1227524520830
 
  • #356
Was it not Friday night after he went missing?
I read on this thread a few days ago that foster mum had to pick someone up from the airport on the Thursday night. As she drove out she noticed the 2 parked cars and they were still there on the Friday morning. I hadn't read this before either. I will do a search and try to find the post.
 
  • #357
The road was technically no through road. Vehicle access was available at the rear the property. A dirt track.

tyrell_track.jpg
http://s29.postimg.org/84fjkda1z/tyrell_track.jpg
Courtesy Google Earth
 
  • #358
There is also no information available to say that BS was ever inside any room of the house to see any photos of anyone, the laundry looks to be accessible from outside, as most are. How could he have known that William liked spiderman as his mother says it was a new interest for him.
Opportunistic, I can't see anyone planning a kidnap based on such flimsy circumstances being known.

BS has reported he was not in the house.
But I guess technically the laundry is still classed as part of the house. imo

“I wish to state that I have had no involvement whatsoever in the disappearance of William Tyrrell. I have noted in the media that some events have been reported inaccurately, I wish to clarify those details.

“I first attended the Tyrrell house on Tuesday, the 9th of September, 2014 to repair a washing machine. I returned to complete the repair of the washing machine on Thursday, the 18th of September, 2014.

“I have not been in the Tyrrell house or to the Tyrrell house or to the street before, between or after these dates. The media have reported that I was supposed to attend the Tyrrell house on the 12th of September 2014, this being the day of William’s disappearance.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...ying-involvement/story-fnii5s40-1227520959271
 
  • #359
No, she noticed the 2 cars on the morning William disappeared, when she was with William.
That night, AFTER he had gone missing, she then remembered the cars. She picked her sister up the Friday night.

Listen to the audio of the 'mum' in this link.
http://dailytelegraph.com.au/news/n...r-other-children/story-fni0cx12-1227524520830
Thankyou so much for clarifying that. I knew that I read it somewhere on here. I wont have to go looking for it now. So sorry I thought foster mum picked sister up from the airport on the Thursday night but I was wrong. As you state it was the Friday night. Have just started posting here and am still trying to find my way. Thanyou again !!!
 
  • #360
The mother saw the cars on the Friday morning when they all woke up. Later on in the morning she saw the cars were still there. She was perplexed at why the cars were there, but carried on with the morning. Not long after this William disappeared.

The mother collected her sister the FRIDAY night from the airport and during that time she remembered the cars, which she did not mention to the 000 operator.

So, when they arrived back to nan's from the airport, she ran to the command centre set up at the back and told them about the cars.
 
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