Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #15

[Karo]

It depends on how you read or hear BS's words I suppose.
My laundry has an external door, so I would never invite a tradie in through my front door, they come in via the laundry door, generally they wear boots. From my observations, Grandma's house has a similar entry point and there being no fence, more likely he wasn't in any room except the laundry, imo

BS has reported he was not in the house.
But I guess technically the laundry is still classed as part of the house. imo

“I wish to state that I have had no involvement whatsoever in the disappearance of William Tyrrell. I have noted in the media that some events have been reported inaccurately, I wish to clarify those details.

“I first attended the Tyrrell house on Tuesday, the 9th of September, 2014 to repair a washing machine. I returned to complete the repair of the washing machine on Thursday, the 18th of September, 2014.

“I have not been in the Tyrrell house or to the Tyrrell house or to the street before, between or after these dates. The media have reported that I was supposed to attend the Tyrrell house on the 12th of September 2014, this being the day of William’s disappearance.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...ying-involvement/story-fnii5s40-1227520959271

 

[sosocurious]

I agree Karo

 

[Karinna]

I knew it was just a matter of time before they compared William's case to the Madeline McCann case. How ridiculous! This is nothing like Maddie's case. William's parents didn't leave him alone night after night in a strange holiday apartment in a foreign country to go out with their friends out of sight and earshot of their children. Stupid media.

LISTEN: William Tyrrell's disappearance 'similar to Madeleine McCann'
https://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/a/29509770/suspected-nsw-kidnapper-opportunistic/

 

[Karo]

It's similar in that both children have disappeared without a trace.

 

[crabstick]

AKA, the tradesman's entrance. It means little. If you are under the roof line inside the outside walls, you are inside their house.

If you went into an external wash house, that may be different, but one would presume a lot can be gleamed from being inside the property line in the case an abduction strategy.

The issue is also, that these properties have open fences. Its easy to transverse through the property to establish where everything is, and line of sight.
There is also many bush shrubs and trees that provide cover to transverse through properties. Not to mention the state forest that adjoin property boundaries.

The other is, did a POI meet the child? Who met the child in the weeks prior? POI or not

It depends on how you read or hear BS's words I suppose.
My laundry has an external door, so I would never invite a tradie in through my front door, they come in via the laundry door, generally they wear boots. From my observations, Grandma's house has a similar entry point and there being no fence, more likely he wasn't in any room except the laundry, imo

 

[Imagining]

Fellow sleuthers. I have not been on this site for a long time due to technical challenges so I apologize for not being up to date with your posts. However I wish to share my thoughts on William's disappearance. Perhaps the cars seen in the street were involved in their own private drug transaction and maybe William wandered out. Either they felt threatened by a potential witness and took him or perhaps accidentally hit him with their car and took him to hide their mistake. Young people with a fear of being found out will hide their crime but if they have any conscience will be racked with guilt over this event. Perhaps the police need to appeal to these people in a sensitive way showing a degree of understanding for how a cover up may have happened. This would at least flush them out. I have a feeling that we have overlooked the potential of this being a tragic accident or a cover up for another crime. What do you think?

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I had also thought about the hit, grabbed the child and run scenario, if that is the case I would expect there would be blood or some trace of WT being hit on the road? In a quiet street like this one, I would expected noise can be heard when the accident happened? This is all guess work.

 

[crabstick]

Slow pull up, grab child, in shock does nothing, slowly take off inside 5 seconds in front drive. No sound

I had also thought about the hit, grabbed the child and run scenario, if that is the case I would expect there would be blood or some trace of WT being hit on the road? In a quiet street like this one, I would expected noise can be heard when the accident happened? This is all guess work.

 

[JLZ]

BS has reported he was not in the house.
But I guess technically the laundry is still classed as part of the house. imo

“I wish to state that I have had no involvement whatsoever in the disappearance of William Tyrrell. I have noted in the media that some events have been reported inaccurately, I wish to clarify those details.

“I first attended the Tyrrell house on Tuesday, the 9th of September, 2014 to repair a washing machine. I returned to complete the repair of the washing machine on Thursday, the 18th of September, 2014.

“I have not been in the Tyrrell house or to the Tyrrell house or to the street before, between or after these dates. The media have reported that I was supposed to attend the Tyrrell house on the 12th of September 2014, this being the day of William’s disappearance.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...ying-involvement/story-fnii5s40-1227520959271

I don't think BS is claiming he was never in the house. He is saying that he was there only on the two dates he mentions, and not on any others.

 

[sosocurious]

Slow pull up, grab child, in shock does nothing, slowly take off inside 5 seconds in front drive. No sound

Yes - the front drive.
Where dad would be expected to pull in.

 

[sosocurious]

I don't think BS is claiming he was never in the house. He is saying that he was there only on the two dates he mentions, and not on any others.

I was replying to Karo's post that it had not been said if BS had been IN the house.
I agree he is saying he has only ever been to the house and in the street on two occasions the 9th and 18th September.
He is also saying he was NOT supposed to be there on the 12th Sept....but what he is not saying is when he was supposed to return to fix the washer.
imo

 

[Karo]

Yes, that is how I understood your comment
BS has never said, nor have police, that he was ever IN the house.

I was replying to Karo's post that it had not been said if BS had been IN the house.
I agree he is saying he has only ever been to the house and in the street on two occasions the 9th and 18th September.
He is also saying he was NOT supposed to be there on the 12th Sept....but what he is not saying is when he was supposed to return to fix the washer.
imo

 

[crabstick]

So the washing machine was not in the house? How did the POI checkout the washing machine on the dates stated in the video?

Sighted washing machine on 2 dates? You dont need to be in the house. Being on the property or the boundary of the property is a different ball game because the line of sight to build an abduction strategy is enabled.

Was the POI in the near vicinity of the property say 3 kilometres perimeter other than the dates specified?

Yes, that is how I understood your comment
BS has never said, nor have police, that he was ever IN the house.

 

[msadventure]

from: "Forensic profiler paints picture of William Tyrrell's kidnapper" Sunday, 13 September 2015

“So if no-one but William’s parents and grandmother knew in advance of his visit to Kendall, then you would have to have some other reason to be there and take that opportunity; either visiting, residing or working in the vicinity."

Or dressed as if working.

Bold by me.

 

[Imagining]

I was replying to Karo's post that it had not been said if BS had been IN the house.
I agree he is saying he has only ever been to the house and in the street on two occasions the 9th and 18th September.
He is also saying he was NOT supposed to be there on the 12th Sept....but what he is not saying is when he was supposed to return to fix the washer.
imo

My experience with trades person services (electrician/plumber/carpenter) is that they can be very unpredictable about when they are going to turn up or return on the time/date.

 

[JLZ]

BS has never said, nor have police, that he was ever IN the house.

BS has not said that he was not IN the house.

On the contrary he has strongly implied that he WAS IN the house.

 

[Freddo Frog]

from: "Forensic profiler paints picture of William Tyrrell's kidnapper" Sunday, 13 September 2015

“So if no-one but William’s parents and grandmother knew in advance of his visit to Kendall, then you would have to have some other reason to be there and take that opportunity; either visiting, residing or working in the vicinity."

Or dressed as if working.

Bold by me.

That is the quote that makes me think they know exactly who they are looking at. When I read that I got shivers.

My experience with trades person services (electrician/plumber/carpenter) is that they can be very unpredictable about when they are going to turn up or return on the time/date.

Don't you love the "any time between 8am and 4pm" ones and they turn up at 3.45pm and say "oh, I'll have to order the part, it should be here in a week"? Or am I the only one that happens to

 

[crabstick]

If your not home, its pointless a tradie turning up if the owner is not home and you cant get inside. A very very poor way profit wise to do business. Usually there is a defined time line when they will be there unless its renovation to the house externally. The exception for not calling is an ongoing renovation 'externally' with access.
Tradies don't drive to a job in the hope someone will be home. A great way to go bankrupt. Tradies only get paid when they work. Not when they don't work. With the advent of mobile phones, calling to ensure access is common practice.

My experience with trades person services (electrician/plumber/carpenter) is that they can be very unpredictable about when they are going to turn up or return on the time/date.

 

[crabstick]

Sounds like the Telstra phone guy, or the plumber but if they dont give you a call, your dealing with the wrong tradies. Even a tradie thinking someone would be home all day isn't going to attempt drive to your house and find your not home. Thats 3 hours lost not paid. They are cowboys.

In small towns when people know each other on a name by name basis, it might be a little different. But then again, many of these people leave their doors and windows open because there is always someone on the watch from over the way.

Don't you love the "any time between 8am and 4pm" ones and they turn up at 3.45pm and say "oh, I'll have to order the part, it should be here in a week"? Or am I the only one that happens to

In AUSTRALIA, it is common for children to become obsessed with TV character costumes which they wont take off to even be washed. Parents talk of the super hero outfit they cant get their children out of, day or night, especially boys.

If the Willaim went missing in the clothes he was wearing, police will release images of victims preferably in those clothes to trigger someones' memory if they sighted the boy on the day his disappearance, and the only clothes he has.

The child has asthma. His need for medical management is imperative to his survival.

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[louisepiglet]

Yes the bio parents have been cleared, but I bet their acquaintances haven't. Someone said six degrees of separation, which is probably true, there is a lot more to it than meets the eye. NSW police would know , they are just releasing certain information to find the missing pieces of the puzzles and how it all fits in.

Yes yes yes. The parents have been cleared for the abduction but people know people who know people who know people. They cannot have possibly cleared everyone connected. Impossible.

 

[Puggle]

Just marking my spot ....