Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #16

[bearbear]

i found another map search called six maps which is a free aus govt site and there is a clear ariel view of 21 benaroon drive kendall, the property is directly opposite the corner of ellendale cres, just along from grandmothers former house, and down the driveway are two cars parked which look like a white station wagon and dark sedan, i think this is the property where the two cars were parked outside of?
https://maps.six.nsw.gov.au/

 

[Karinna]

To be honest I don't entirely agree with some pound. First of all BS dud actually say "I never did anything to hurt William Tyrrell" in his interview with his wife.

Also the mother of the children in his care made a very public protest once his house was searched which I believe was the initial reason they were removed.

I feel he is highly likely to be involved just don't agree with this comments.

Also not your comment but a lot of comments have been made that maybe he was not the abductor but organised it. Does not make sense to me. Possible he heard they were coming and called someone but why william? There is heaps of kids in the area and how would he know he would be running near the front etc. If bs is guilty he took him IMO. What happened after that I'm not sure but I also doubt he was sold as it's clear they are under financial strain. Had to move out if rental and borrow money for bail etc.


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If you are stating the Speddings were under financial strain where did you get that information from as I have not seen it? I believe it was stated in an msm article Mrs. Spedding offered up $100,000 for her husband's bond to bond him out of jail. So not sure where you got your info. from?

 

[Amee]

If you are stating the Speddings were under financial strain where did you get that information from as I have not seen it? I believe it was stated in an msm article Mrs. Spedding offered up $100,000 for her husband's bond to bond him out of jail. So not sure where you got your info. from?

Mr Spedding, who is also a person of interest regarding the disappearance of toddler William Tyrrell, relied on $100,000 in surety posted in the form of his brother’s life savings.

the 63-year-old repairman and dole recipient

Mr Spedding’s wife Margaret provided a letter to the court in which she wrote there would be “no children residing or visiting the residence” if the 64-year-old was granted bail.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ild-rape-charges/story-fni0cx4q-1227405593311

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ild-rape-charges/story-fni0cx12-1227316615479

more links in earlier threads ....

 

[richieswan]

i found another map search called six maps which is a free aus govt site and there is a clear ariel view of 21 benaroon drive kendall, the property is directly opposite the corner of ellendale cres, just along from grandmothers former house, and down the driveway are two cars parked which look like a white station wagon and dark sedan, i think this is the property where the two cars were parked outside of?
https://maps.six.nsw.gov.au/

Close but a few doors down...the cars were parked between 31 and 35.

 

[Found]

If you are stating the Speddings were under financial strain where did you get that information from as I have not seen it? I believe it was stated in an msm article Mrs. Spedding offered up $100,000 for her husband's bond to bond him out of jail. So not sure where you got your info. from?

See below quote from Amee. Thanks Amee.


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[crabstick]

Caravan, or boat? We havent seen that white station wagon? Or has someone seen it?

i found another map search called six maps which is a free aus govt site and there is a clear ariel view of 21 benaroon drive kendall, the property is directly opposite the corner of ellendale cres, just along from grandmothers former house, and down the driveway are two cars parked which look like a white station wagon and dark sedan, i think this is the property where the two cars were parked outside of?
https://maps.six.nsw.gov.au/

You would have to go somewhere quick. The further you go, the longer the time-line, and the more chance of being seen. That would mean the child is stored somewhere. Then you have to return, without being seen.

If someone went to fix a fridge, in Dunbogan? then someone went to fix a fridge, or..... Where was the fridge repair? Someone went there, but not to fix a fridge, or something on the way?

What would be the pathway there and to the school? How long does it take?

Welcome Kalamazoo. William's abduction could all have played out so easily as you say. The burning question for me has always been where did William's abductor take him? If it was BS who took him, where did he take him? How did he conceal William? Did William sit quietly with his abductor thinking perhaps that he was going to see Daddy for example? Or was William upset and crying for his Mummy? Was William gagged, drugged or rendered unconscious by force? If so why? Why do this, why take a little boy just like that?

What gas does a refrigerator repair carry? CO2? That could wipe out a child?

Was William gagged, drugged or rendered unconscious by force? If so why? Why do this, why take a little boy just like that?

 

[Found]

Can I just be a person who questions the assumptions of others instead of a supporter of a POI please?

I am trying to stop myself believing what I read in MSM, invariably they are wrong, there is so much wrong with so many reports, different wording, different time frames, slow leaking of information.
In the Kiesha circumstances, it was clear from the beginning that the mother and stepfather were involved, however, they had to wait for them to lead them to the little body.

I'm with you Karo to an extent. I've gone from BS being involved to not being involved over the last few months. Everyone has their own intuition or thoughts. You are entitled to yours. Just sometimes. People have made a decision and won't see anything else. I have done this. You have done this. Puggle has done this. And so have many many people on the thread. We need to keep an open mind.


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[Imagining]

Reason - when asked he says "I didn't do it - I wasn't even there that day" (pp)

Most folk would say "I didn't do it - I've never hurt anyone in my life"

To be honest I don't entirely agree with some pound. First of all BS dud actually say "I never did anything to hurt William Tyrrell" in his interview with his wife.

Sorry, I don’t know under what circumstances when BS said those words but just now thinking what if he was surrounds by journalists asking him questions like “Did you do it?”, “So you went to the house and abducted WT?”, “Did you hurt WT?” Would that ended up be putting words in BS mouth?

 

[Imagining]

If someone went to fix a fridge, in Dunbogan? then someone went to fix a fridge, or..... Where was the fridge repair?

This is a question we would never know except the police, did the fridge customer expected BS to go there on that day? Or did BS strategically choose to complete this customer request on that particular time for some unknown reasons? I wanted to say dropping off WT to an accomplice on the way to the customer but the time gap ie 10:30am to 2pm is too wide so it is unlikely to be for this reason.

 

[richieswan]

Sixmaps imagery for Benaroon Dr up close was captured Nov 2012. I don't think we are meant to snoop yards for vehicles, but bins on the street seem fair game. Especially as the road is essentially a crime scene.

 

[crabstick]

Its the driveway of the vehicle in your picture on Beneroon drive. Yes, I may have stepped over the front boundary. Ooouch! :silenced:

Its the same car

Sixmaps imagery for Benaroon Dr up close was captured Nov 2012. I don't think we are meant to snoop yards for vehicles, but bins on the street seem fair game. Especially as the road is essentially a crime scene.

Cops would have checked that time-line. 3 and a half hours, 1hour 45 each way. If you are a criminal, and you say what you did, you better do some of it. There is a number of means of checking.

This is a question we would never know except the police, did the fridge customer expected BS to go there on that day? Or did BS strategically choose to complete this customer request on that particular time for some unknown reasons? I wanted to say dropping off WT to an accomplice on the way to the customer but the time gap ie 10:30am to 2pm is too wide so it is unlikely to be for this reason.

 

[Karinna]

See below quote from Amee. Thanks Amee.


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Fair enough & thanks Amee for the links, I couldn't find the link to the article I read previously, but all that aside I still haven't read anything in msm about the Spedding's financial hardships or not, so I gather it's assumption and not fact?

 

[Imagining]

This is a question we would never know except the police, did the fridge customer expected BS to go there on that day? Or did BS strategically choose to complete this customer request on that particular time for some unknown reasons? I wanted to say dropping off WT to an accomplice on the way to the customer but the time gap ie 10:30am to 2pm is too wide so it is unlikely to be for this reason.

Sorry, just now I think of something to add to my previous comment, what if between 10:30am and 2pm, BS was assaulting WT for might be an hour, once he was done with WT, he disposed (I am sorry to say this) the child which might take about an hour, at about 1pm he began to think about how to minimise his suspicion, so he went to a customer’s home on the way to fix the fridge and also called WT mother that he was not coming (I really think that based on the conversations/phone calls that BS was expected to go to fix the washing machine that day).

 

[Karinna]

Mr Spedding, who is also a person of interest regarding the disappearance of toddler William Tyrrell, relied on $100,000 in surety posted in the form of his brother’s life savings.

the 63-year-old repairman and dole recipient

Mr Spedding’s wife Margaret provided a letter to the court in which she wrote there would be “no children residing or visiting the residence” if the 64-year-old was granted bail.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ild-rape-charges/story-fni0cx4q-1227405593311

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ild-rape-charges/story-fni0cx12-1227316615479

more links in earlier threads ....

Thanks for posting the links. I wonder and that is if it's true, that the Spedding's are now separated if it's so Mrs. Spedding can see her grandchildren considering her husband is not allowed near any children under 18 yrs. of age since he was granted bond ? I'm sure their lives must be in turmoil since all of this has gone down?

 

[Imagining]

Fair enough & thanks Amee for the links, I couldn't find the link to the article I read previously, but all that aside I still haven't read anything in msm about the Spedding's financial hardships or not, so I gather it's assumption and not fact?

I remember seeing somewhere mentioned his pawn shop was closed down, I think it was last year? Before WT missing? Would closing down pawn shop a sign of financial hardships?

 

[Karinna]

I'm with you Karo to an extent. I've gone from BS being involved to not being involved over the last few months. Everyone has their own intuition or thoughts. You are entitled to yours. Just sometimes. People have made a decision and won't see anything else. I have done this. You have done this. Puggle has done this. And so have many many people on the thread. We need to keep an open mind.


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I agree that we really don't know if Spedding is the culprit or not in this case? We would look pretty stupid if we don't look elsewhere at other possibilities and Spedding is eventually cleared of anything to do with William's disappearance which has yet to be proven. All in good time I guess.

 

[Karinna]

I remember seeing somewhere mentioned his pawn shop was closed down, I think it was last year? Before WT missing? Would closing down pawn shop a sign of financial hardships?

Not necessarily. If a small business is not succeeding why keep it running?

 

[Found]

Not necessarily. If a small business is not succeeding why keep it running?

Heaps of links even bs actual son saying his has suffered financially from this case. I get it you are remaining unbiased towards him. But plenty of reliable links to say there is financial strain.


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[Karinna]

Heaps of links even bs actual son saying his has suffered financially from this case. I get it you are remaining unbiased towards him. But plenty of reliable links to say there is financial strain.


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Thanks, didn't know that. Sorry not following this case as in depth as some of you here, so you guys probably know all the info. that i don't.

 

[Seek]

Heaps of links even bs actual son saying his has suffered financially from this case. I get it you are remaining unbiased towards him. But plenty of reliable links to say there is financial strain.


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One would think that the household income this week is a fraction of what it was this time a year ago. JMO