Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #19

[frogwell]

The type of crime that is being suggested has occurred in WT's case by the police, I find incredibly difficult to imagine, let alone accept. Opportunistic abduction of a well cared for 3 year old from an affluent couple and somehow passed around in an ageing paedophile ring without any evidence after a year to hold one of the POI's seems statistically, highly improbable on a number of forensic levels. If it turns out to be the case that is what happened to WT, I will be deeply shocked. In a sense this does remind me of the Madelaine McCann case. MOO

 

[asac]

The type of crime that is being suggested has occurred in WT's case by the police, I find incredibly difficult to imagine, let alone accept. Opportunistic abduction of a well cared for 3 year old from an affluent couple and somehow passed around in an ageing paedophile ring without any evidence after a year to hold one of the POI's seems statistically, highly improbable on a number of forensic levels. If it turns out to be the case that is what happened to WT, I will be deeply shocked. In a sense this does remind me of the Madelaine McCann case. MOO

I have never been able to let go of the idea that maybe he did just wander away and an accident happened.

If this was some group effort - seriously, how have they all kept quiet for so long?? If it was just 1 person involved - it makes me shudder that they appear to have gotten away perfectly.

 

[bearbear]

maybe is was a group effort?
this is an old news item but reposting because its interesting

A group of people who appear to be decent, hardworking members of society, but who in reality hide behind that facade to act on their deviant sexual desires for children.
Paedophiles are experts at deception and carefully select their victims who, more often than not, fly under the radar, unpunished, for decades. And sometimes forever

http://www.news.com.au/national/cri...a/news-story/35a755a4a6bdb0d07c73203d4d74b934

 

[Chloe4586]

Unfortunately I do think he has been abducted by a group. I think it was all carefully planned too not so much opportunistic. That of course is only my opinion though. I'm very saddened and frustrated by this case

 

[Angeline]

The type of crime that is being suggested has occurred in WT's case by the police, I find incredibly difficult to imagine, let alone accept. Opportunistic abduction of a well cared for 3 year old from an affluent couple and somehow passed around in an ageing paedophile ring without any evidence after a year to hold one of the POI's seems statistically, highly improbable on a number of forensic levels. If it turns out to be the case that is what happened to WT, I will be deeply shocked. In a sense this does remind me of the Madelaine McCann case. MOO

I agree. It is odd. From my limited knowledge about these rings don't they normally revolve around children known to the members? Children they have access to?

It's incredibly rare, I would think, for a ring to abduct a child and draw so much attention to themselves. If this what happened, it makes me think he's not alive. The police and media are all over it.

Were any of them due to front court or go to jail at the time William went missing?

 

[frogwell]

I agree. It is odd. From my limited knowledge about these rings don't they normally revolve around children known to the members? Children they have access to?

It's incredibly rare, I would think, for a ring to abduct a child and draw so much attention to themselves. If this what happened, it makes me think he's not alive. The police and media are all over it.

Were any of them due to front court or go to jail at the time William went missing?

Yes. Anthony Jones was out on bail when William went missing. I have wondered if he went for broke so to speak as he was facing jail time and his record seems to show a long history of impulse control. I agree, I have limited knowledge and my perception of how a ring operates was similar to yours. Individuals with paedophile tendencies, I would think the 1st places to look would be professions, govt. departments, churches and clubs that work closely with vulnerable kids. like a grandparent support groups.....IMO

 

[Angeline]

Yes. Anthony Jones was out on bail when William went missing.

Ugh, that's a huge red flag. He was facing 3 years in prison. 3 years away from any contact with kids.

He'd just been outed as a pedophile. He would be watched like a hawk around kids from now on. That makes it feasible that he would turn to abduction.

His previous crimes were not pedophile related (of course, that could mean he just hadn't been caught until then.)

Probably thought he had nothing to lose at that point.

His white station wagon was similar to the one seen before William disappeared.

Sorry to go over old ground. I took a break from WS for a while and now piecing together the latest bits of info.

 

[frogwell]

the station wagon has come back clear. That doesn't mean much to me. Brett Cowan's vehicle came back clear after he abducted Daniel Morcombe. There's much to rehash in this case.

 

[Puggle]

Yes. Anthony Jones was out on bail when William went missing. I have wondered if he went for broke so to speak as he was facing jail time and his record seems to show a long history of impulse control. I agree, I have limited knowledge and my perception of how a ring operates was similar to yours. Individuals with paedophile tendencies, I would think the 1st places to look would be professions, govt. departments, churches and clubs that work closely with vulnerable kids. like a grandparent support groups.....IMO

Yes...out of all the names that MSM have mentioned in this case...Jones appeared to be the only person with the "What the hell" - I'm going away anyway scenario......

There is a sick subversive culture of individuals...thousands upon thousands of people worldwide - who are sexually attracted to children - they know they are not accepted by society in general....we find their attraction sick, depraved, inhuman ...... time and time again when one of their webs is uncovered we are shocked by the intricate details of how they have managed to form associations, organise themselves....and totally grossed out by their actions.....yet...they continue. And time and time again...these people seem to find ways to communicate/share their disgusting pervasion....It's the individuals on the periphery I am the most angriest with....they are the ones who may have an inkling...gut...and STILL...they don't speak up....WHY???

 

[Puggle]

the station wagon has come back clear. That doesn't mean much to me. Brett Cowan's vehicle came back clear after he abducted Daniel Morcombe. There's much to rehash in this case.

I didn't know about Cowans vehicle being "clean".....thanks for that...

 

[krig101]

the station wagon has come back clear. That doesn't mean much to me. Brett Cowan's vehicle came back clear after he abducted Daniel Morcombe. There's much to rehash in this case.

Does not surprise me at all. The POI's in this case have all had plenty of time to rid of evidence.

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[Angeline]

I agree. The forensics don't disprove anything.

The way Jubelin speaks it sounds like Spedding. Was he there in the van or with Jones in his car? It's never been said that the van was spotted that day and you'd think the family would have heard it if the van pulled up.

I reckon Spedding and Jones were together to deliver the part and they spotted William, then sat and waited for the right moment to act. I don't know where the second parked car comes into it, though.

 

[krig101]

I agree. The forensics don't disprove anything.

The way Jubelin speaks it sounds like Spedding. Was he there in the van or with Jones in his car? It's never been said that the van was spotted that day and you'd think the family would have heard it if the van pulled up.

I reckon Spedding and Jones were together to deliver the part and they spotted William, then sat and waited for the right moment to act. I don't know where the second parked car comes into it, though.

And they never mentioned if evidence was found with Spedding. Keeping that info close to chest.

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[Chloe4586]

So AJ was going away, bickford was on a suspended 16 month gaol sentence for the sexual assault of an 11 year old girl that has Aspergers, he was no longer allowed to live in his own house with his supposedly supportive wife due to children living there, I vaguely recall that spedding was being investigated by Docs/the likes prior to Williams dissapearance and I can't find much info on Nichols. Not to mention how many other pedo's may have been involved if this is indeed a case of abduction by a ring. So... Perhaps the group thought, if we are going out why not go out with a bang?

 

[Angeline]

Yep, it was going to become more difficult for them to be around children.

I wonder why police only recently revealed info about the 2 cars and Jones. They said it was for strategic reasons. Were they quietly watching Jones to find William? Was the plan to put heat on one (Spedding) and monitor the others? I remember Jubelin saying the most important thing was finding William so I guess that means waiting and watching the pedos instead of rushing in.

I wonder who this couple from Victoria renting the cabin at the caravan park were, and why did they drive up from Victoria? The Victorian side of the investigation is very quiet.

 

[Chloe4586]

I wonder the same thing Angeline. At least three of the POI's lived in VIC at some stage and it's even been stated in media that bickford and jones were friends.

 

[krig101]

I wonder the same thing Angeline. At least three of the POI's lived in VIC at some stage and it's even been stated in media that bickford and jones were friends.

And Spedding lived across the street from Jones. What a tangled web....

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[krig101]

I agree. The forensics don't disprove anything.

The way Jubelin speaks it sounds like Spedding. Was he there in the van or with Jones in his car? It's never been said that the van was spotted that day and you'd think the family would have heard it if the van pulled up.

I reckon Spedding and Jones were together to deliver the part and they spotted William, then sat and waited for the right moment to act. I don't know where the second parked car comes into it, though.

Jones claims he was out collecting scrap metal at that time... .Wonder where?
With Spedding?


http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/news...-in-tyrrell-case/story-fni0cx12-1227544386695

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[krig101]

Why would this be under "top stories" section in today's Port Macquarie News? From last March......

http://www.portnews.com.au/story/29...ed-from-bushland-search-photos-video/?cs=4150

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[Chloe4586]

That's odd.