Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - # 2

[thylacine7]

There's been lots of talk about parents possibly being foster, and that's all it'd take to result in such a media blackout on details about the parents, if foster, as they're not allowed to be legally identified so the media would open themselves up to legal action. That may be all they mean by 'complicated history', though it's a term that breeds unnecessary suspicion if so.

It may be that they're not even allowed to say he's in foster care, if that's the case; that may not be allowed either (ie not just that they're not able to name the foster parents), so again that could be all the 'complicated history' means.

I have a friend on FB whose husband works with one of the parents so I've got a lot more info from her that I obviously can't post here, but as a result of that I have no suspicions about the parents, and feel all the more heartbroken for them as a result; they're clearly good, kind people, not that you'd wish this sort of situation on anyone.

(if even that sentence above isn't allowed, if it counts as discussing rumour or SM, pls go ahead and remove... not sure if it counts).

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I haven't read anywhere to confirm that the grandfathers funeral was in Kendall. It could have been in Sydney for all we know.
I also don't find it strange that the mother wasn't there while the grandmother was in hospital. Williams mother is in the last stages of pregnancy, has other small children and lives 4 hours away - that would take some organising for her to be present. Much better and more useful to be there afterwards.

See that doesn't work for me, because if the mother was heavily pregnant while grandma was in hospital, then she's even more heavily pregnant now, and she still made the trip up there with kids in tow ..

 

[kiwi50]

[modsnip] I don't think it is the maternal grandparents given the mum and the son have the same surname. [modsnip] I've searched this surname and the grandmother has been very involved with the community for years but can't find much on them before they lived there.

I cannot get this story out of my head. I just keep thinking it's too clean, the answer must surely be right under our nose and we are missing something.

Great post!

 

[kiwi50]

There's been lots of talk about parents possibly being foster, and that's all it'd take to result in such a media blackout on details about the parents, if foster, as they're not allowed to be legally identified so the media would open themselves up to legal action. That may be all they mean by 'complicated history', though it's a term that breeds unnecessary suspicion if so.

It may be that they're not even allowed to say he's in foster care, if that's the case; that may not be allowed either (ie not just that they're not able to name the foster parents), so again that could be all the 'complicated history' means.

I have a friend on FB whose husband works with one of the parents so I've got a lot more info from her that I obviously can't post here, but as a result of that I have no suspicions about the parents, and feel all the more heartbroken for them as a result; they're clearly good, kind people, not that you'd wish this sort of situation on anyone.

(if even that sentence above isn't allowed, if it counts as discussing rumour or SM, pls go ahead and remove... not sure if it counts).

I assume you are talking about foster, if so I agree they sound like good people.

 

[Amee]

8:54am September 22, 2014
Police to focus investigation on ‘human intervention’ after search for William Tyrell called off

Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...e-year-old-william-tyrell#GAlsewzVBLijfZac.99

 

[Mel 1303]

A complicated history could mean anything, and may not be related to William. The media blackout may well be to protect another child. We have been told it is complicated, and cant be revealed for legal reasons. Thats enough for me- I would hate to find something, post it on here and have another childs security put in jeopardy.

Such a sad story.

 

[thylacine7]

Definitely Mel, that's the most important thing about the secrecy I'd say, protecting children.

 

[Eloise]

What is the gist of the SMH article Amee (or others)? It's the end of the billing month for my 'net, I'm now shaped and I can't get SMH to open for the life of me

 

[thylacine7]

Just basically that the police will now concentrate on the possibility of human intervention - search called off - and concentrate on the various pieces of information received since his disappearance (but they don't elaborate beyond that).

Sounds promising though, that they've received 'pieces of information', though they could of course be hopelessly vague. That's better than the 'absolutely nothing' found in the search though :-(

 

[fruity]

I would hope to high heaven that if somebody knew anything about the family's legal history they would never even allude to it here!!

Foster families are usually given anonymity in the media because when children are put in OOHC their location sometimes needs to be kept a secret.

They usually try to place kids with family members first rather than volunteer foster families, so if a child has a non-family placement it can be an indicator that something serious is at hand or the family has been involved with DoCS for a long time.

 

[missgulfsouth]

I would hope to high heaven that if somebody knew anything about the family's legal history they would never even allude to it here!!

Foster families are usually given anonymity in the media because when children are put in OOHC their location sometimes needs to be kept a secret.

They usually try to place kids with family members first rather than volunteer foster families, so if a child has a non-family placement it can be an indicator that something serious is at hand or the family has been involved with DoCS for a long time.

If that were the case here, it could be an abduction by a family member. Is that what y'all are thinking is a possibility?

 

[ollijack]

Fruity what does OOHC mean ....

 

[newone]

To play devils advocate- if William snuck into his fathers car, before his father left to complete his errand, why would mum/grandma say he went missing later? There is nothing sinister in a child secretly climbing into a car, so why change the story later? He is still missing, they still dont know where he is? I thought we had seen an article where it said that all the vehicles had been inspected? Will see if I can find it.

perhaps the ladies didn't know at the time.....MOO

 

[Mrs G Norris]

All of the complication above may explain why this was a first visit to a GMA who may have been paternal, step-paternal, or even foster.

 

[sleepinoz]

Fruity what does OOHC mean ....

Out Of Home Care

 

[Amee]

Havent read the whole thread yet, so apologies if this has been suggested.

Perhaps the reason this is the 1st time that William had visited GMA's house (or had not been for a long time) was maybe mum / dad had conflict with recently deceased GPA?
Could explain why they were not around at time of funeral.

Im thinking FP visiting F/GMA. Maybe thats why it was the first visit for William and his sister. :dunno:

 

[Eloise]

wewillgetyou - it has been stated in the MSM that it was the children's first visit to GMAs, hasn't it? Or was it just the first time they "played in the yard"? I think that's what people are getting that idea from.

<modsnip>

 

[Mel 1303]

I say this with the utmost respect to everyone, because it's really getting on my goat now - where has it been stated and confirmed that this family were not present at the Grandfathers funeral and that the funeral was in fact even at Kendall ?!

I went to a funeral recently of someone who was buried over 200 km from their home town. People traveled from that town, and from all over Australia for that matter, to attend. It was for personal historical family reasons she chose to be buried away from what was considered her home town.

I know it doesn't really mean much in the scheme of things but I'm starting to think it's being quite judgemental ' ASSUMING' that this family didn't attend a funeral. Truth is we just don't know. I'm happy to be corrected though and this is not aimed at anyone in particular ( sorry Blessed , yours was just the easiest quote about it to reply to. I'm not having a go at you )

I think it came from reports that while the grandfather had died earlier in the year, it was Williams first visit to the grandmothers house. I agree, doesn't mean that Williams family did not attend a funeral. We dont know if the grandparents are from Kendall, or if they retired there. If so, the funeral may have been else where. The family may have attended, and stayed in a motel. The parents may have attended the funeral, and not taken the children. Everyone may have been to the funeral, and grandma may have since moved. Everyone may have attended the funeral, just not visited the grandparents house. Mum seems to have a number of small children- maybe visits with the grandparents have been at the childrens home, rather than taking a carload of toddlers up the coast. Lots of maybes....

 

[wewillgetyou]

I think it came from reports that while the grandfather had died earlier in the year, it was Williams first visit to the grandmothers house. I agree, doesn't mean that Williams family did not attend a funeral. We dont know if the grandparents are from Kendall, or if they retired there. If so, the funeral may have been else where. The family may have attended, and stayed in a motel. The parents may have attended the funeral, and not taken the children. Everyone may have been to the funeral, and grandma may have since moved. Everyone may have attended the funeral, just not visited the grandparents house. Mum seems to have a number of small children- maybe visits with the grandparents have been at the childrens home, rather than taking a carload of toddlers up the coast. Lots of maybes....

Thank you . Exactly my point.

 

[ollijack]

Ohh dearest wewillgetyou.....its so nice to see your face :loveyou:

I wonder how that bugger GBC is going...giggle...I know off topic...sorry