Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #21

[krig101]

Looks like William has two tops on. Blue under red around collar.

I remember the discussion I had with William about putting on his Spiderman clothes because I wanted him to wear a singlet.

He didn't want to wear a singlet, so the compromise was he'd wear a Spiderman t-shirt underneath his Spiderman clothes so he was spidermaned out.

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2015/s4218287.htm

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[JLZ]

13:16 of recording
FM says I had direct view of them ...... presumably the cars...maybe not.
They had direct view of me.

Who are they did she see someone in the cars?

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...k/news-story/a01f0873e1df51515a73d8bfdb0e4f9f

I thought she said in the audio she didn't see anyone in the cars, but she couldn't really see whether or not there was anyone in them.

 

[sosocurious]

I thought she said in the audio she didn't see anyone in the cars, but she couldn't really see whether or not there was anyone in them.

Yes she did JLZ but that was when she was playing with William when she was opening the door.

13:16
I had direct view of them and they had direct view of me.

13:40
The next time I saw those cars .......... I looked over my shoulder.....
She explained she was playing with William in the garden...
I don't think .... I couldn't see anybody inside.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...k/news-story/a01f0873e1df51515a73d8bfdb0e4f9f

imo

 

[sosocurious]

??? AM: The cars were there when fm opened the door before having breakfast and getting dressed.
abt 9:00 am - a green/greyish sedan drove past nana's and turned in the street. William was riding his bike on the driveway.
abt 9:15 am - Dad left to do his errands.
??? AM - the cars were still there when fm was playing chasey with William in the garden.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...sh-into-thin-air/story-e6frg6z6-1227308929078

 

[Makara]

??? AM: The cars were there when fm opened the door before having breakfast and getting dressed.
abt 9:00 am - a green/greyish sedan drove past nana's and turned in the street.
abt 9:15 am - Dad left to do his errands.
??? AM - the cars were still there when fm was playing chasey with William in the garden.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...sh-into-thin-air/story-e6frg6z6-1227308929078

BBM. And William apparently disappeared shortly after at about 10:30am, over an hour later. IMO those two cars belonged to residents in, or visitors to Benaroon Drive and had nothing to do with William's disappearance. Why would two would-be child abductors park their cars in a street with the windows down? If they were intending to abduct a child you'd think they would have the windows closed to lesson the sound of any cries or screams from the child when they grabbed him and took off. Why also would they be parked where they allegedly were for so long if they were up to no good? This would only draw attention to themselves and their vehicles. I've seen it so many times where residents or visitors will park their cars with the windows down, without a care in the world, especially in a quiet and supposedly safe neighbourhood. It's not something that a would-be abductor would do IMO.

 

[sosocurious]

BBM. And William apparently disappeared shortly after at about 10:30am, over an hour later. IMO those two cars belonged to residents in, or visitors to Benaroon Drive and had nothing to do with William's disappearance. Why would two would-be child abductors park their cars in a street with the windows down? If they were intending to abduct a child you'd think they would have the windows closed to lesson the sound of any cries or screams from the child when they grabbed him and took off. Why also would they be parked where they allegedly were for so long if they were up to no good? This would only draw attention to themselves and their vehicles. I've seen it so many times where residents or visitors will park their cars with the windows down, without a care in the world, especially in a quiet and supposedly safe neighbourhood. It's not something that a would-be abductor would do IMO.

No argument from me ...makes sense.

 

[Makara]

[video=youtube;HxxLQ_K5ljY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxxLQ_K5ljY[/video]

about 19 seconds into part 3 of the WT 60 minutes interview is one of the pictures I was referring to. This part of the clip also seems to show enlarged photos of the labels inside this garment on the wall

Thanks frogwell.

A very interesting comment from Gary Jubelin at the 7:17 mark.

"We've had over 417 sightings of William since his disappearance.".

I'm guessing that GJ meant that there had been over 417 purported sightings of William, or a child who looked like William, as was the case in Queensland not long after William disappeared. That turned out to be a false alarm.

 

[Bohemian]

Here you go Bo.
I am not frog but I was just having a little look myself.


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Are the spiders different?

Thanks soso. Those spiders are different!

 

[Bohemian]

BBM. And William apparently disappeared shortly after at about 10:30am, over an hour later. IMO those two cars belonged to residents in, or visitors to Benaroon Drive and had nothing to do with William's disappearance. Why would two would-be child abductors park their cars in a street with the windows down? If they were intending to abduct a child you'd think they would have the windows closed to lesson the sound of any cries or screams from the child when they grabbed him and took off. Why also would they be parked where they allegedly were for so long if they were up to no good? This would only draw attention to themselves and their vehicles. I've seen it so many times where residents or visitors will park their cars with the windows down, without a care in the world, especially in a quiet and supposedly safe neighbourhood. It's not something that a would-be abductor would do IMO.

Yes, and add that to the fact that one of our WSers, munky1979(?), drove down Benaroon Drive either late last year or earlier this year and posted that she saw a white station wagon parked on the grass verge outside a house adjacent to William's FGM's former residence.

 

[Bohemian]

I remember the discussion I had with William about putting on his Spiderman clothes because I wanted him to wear a singlet.

He didn't want to wear a singlet, so the compromise was he'd wear a Spiderman t-shirt underneath his Spiderman clothes so he was spidermaned out.

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2015/s4218287.htm

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Therefore, the reason why the plumber reported to investigators that he had found a t-shirt in the (sewer?) pipes where B&MS were living, sparked a frenzy of property searches and earthmoving.

 

[Bohemian]

[video=youtube;HxxLQ_K5ljY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxxLQ_K5ljY[/video]

about 19 seconds into part 3 of the WT 60 minutes interview is one of the pictures I was referring to. This part of the clip also seems to show enlarged photos of the labels inside this garment on the wall

Thanks froggy.

 

[krig101]

Therefore, the reason why the plumber's report to investigators that he had found a t-shirt in the (sewer?) pipes where B&MS where living, sparked a frenzy of property searches and earthmoving.

And William having a tshirt on under his costume was never reported in MSM until after the report came out about the plumber. Always found that interesting that we never heard any specific details about the shirt. The shirt was never publicly dismissed as not belonging to William. And we never heard anything else about the figurine in BS's van.

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[Bohemian]

??? AM: The cars were there when fm opened the door before having breakfast and getting dressed.
abt 9:00 am - a green/greyish sedan drove past nana's and turned in the street. William was riding his bike on the driveway.
abt 9:15 am - Dad left to do his errands.
??? AM - the cars were still there when fm was playing chasey with William in the garden.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...sh-into-thin-air/story-e6frg6z6-1227308929078

I also seem to have a dim memory of it being posted on one of William's threads that FM(?) had noticed the cars when she(?) opened the curtains early on Friday morning. I'm not sure which curtains she(?) was referring to - we assumed the loungeroom (the 'long room' looking out over the balcony) curtains at the time IRC.

 

[Bohemian]

Here we go back around again due to those damned Spiderman suits. If William is never found, I swear I won't be able to look at those suits quite the same way again.

Little wonder DI Jubelin and his team keep reviewing William's case and reinterviewing all those connected to the terrible events in 12 September 2014!

 

[krig101]

I know, my 3 year old plays with Spiderman toys....I always think of William.....

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[Bohemian]

Something else that sticks in my memory is William's FM saying she called out to William just before she realised he was missing, 'Is Daddy home?' (or words to that effect). I've always wondered why she said that. She was busy making tea and, I presume, preoccupied with a 'million' thoughts; as carers of two young children and a recently widowed mother (recovering from time in hospital) would naturally be. I just wonder if her ears heard a car subconsciously without it registering consciously.

I study meditation and, I'll tell you, it's extremely difficult to be in the here and now every minute of every day but that doesn't mean your physical body and your brain isn't taking in information when your mind is otherwise engaged.

Given that, I presume William's FM has undergone some hypnosis as she may have some very valuable information stored away in her brain of which even she is unaware.

 

[Bohemian]

I know, my 3 year old plays with Spiderman toys....I always think of William.....

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So does my now 5 year old grandson. He let someone at preschool cut his curls a few months ago and had to have a 'crew cut'. I was looking at a photograph I'd taken for ig the other day and his resemblance to William was startling (and, no, he's not William. I saw my grandson being born in April of the year William was!) He had his birthday last month and it always reminds me of the milestones that William's loved ones have been cheated of such as birthdays and his first day of school next year. The absolute ******** for being so weak that they (or those closest to them) won't fess up. Gutless wonders!

 

[Acamelia]

Something else that sticks in my memory is William's FM saying she called out to William just before she realised he was missing, 'Is Daddy home?' (or words to that effect). I've always wondered why she said that. She was busy making tea and, I presume, preoccupied with a 'million' thoughts; as carers of two young children and a recently widowed mother (recovering from time in hospital) would naturally be. I just wonder if her ears heard a car subconsciously without it registering consciously.

I study meditation and, I'll tell you, it's extremely difficult to be in the here and now every minute if every day but that doesn't mean your physical body and your brain isn't taking in information when your mind is otherwise engaged.

Given that, I presume William's FM has undergone some hypnosis as she may have some very valuable information stored away in her brain of which even she is unaware.

Bingo! This sent chills up my spine Bohemian, I've been doing a lot of reading up on the subconscious mind and was only hearing a podcast last week on how parents of babies and toddlers have their subconscious doing most of the work for them. So their minds are thinking one thing and their subconscious is giving them prompt ques to the child at hand.

eg, waking up in the middle of the night when the child has a fever whether they are crying or not.

If that is what the FM said before she realised he was missing, I have no doubt her "inner ear" heard a car close by. Her conscious mind did not hear it as she was carried away by thought, but she did hear it iykwim. I wonder if she's had any hypnotherapy since the abduction?

 

[PainExpress]

I know, my 3 year old plays with Spiderman toys....I always think of William.....

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I won't dress my son in his spiderman tshirt. I always think of William and it scares the hell out of me.

 

[Bohemian]

And William having a tshirt on under his costume was never reported in MSM until after the report came out about the plumber. Always found that interesting that we never heard any specific details about the shirt. The shirt was never publicly dismissed as not belonging to William. And we never heard anything else about the figurine in BS's van.

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I suppose all of that makes up 'evidence' for a future inquest/trial. AFAIK DI Jubelin et al haven't stated they are following one 'line of enquiry' or a 'strong lead' in William's case (a euphemism for 'Expect us when you least expect us, you child snatching scum.', I guess?). If it's at all relevant I suspect we'll hear more at an inquest and/or trial?