Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #21

[Eloise]

what if police already know what happened to william and are watching the culprits and the paedophile angle is just a strategy to take focus away from what really happened?
and as a bonus in the meantime lots of filthy paedos get outed
my mind keeps going back to the caroline overington statement where she says we are all being lied to
i also find it tacky there is "merchandise' we can buy through the bravehearts campaign

I think this too bearbear. I find it actually quite unlikely that the pedo ring was directly involved in WT's disappearance :/ it's far more likely both as far as statistics and logistics go that it's someone who knows WT personally.
Maybe there are closer links between the pedo ring and WT than has been presented in the media. Some have said BS attended the FGF funeral, for example.
I don't know who. I really don't. No matter what people think of KT at least by living her life publicly on SM I'm very confident she does not have WT! I think she's moved on with her life with her new partner and new kids. Other than that ... I think everything is an option.

 

[JLZ]

Still trying to think if someone was watching to see if the father left. Or it was just jack luck he wasnt there when the perp went past.

Who had his father go to speak to? or who had his father go to Skype in a better bandwidth? We are stuck when it comes to this. We need more info which we aint goin to get.

Im not implying his FP involved. Im trying to deduce an external source provided a decoy to take the child. Still cant stop thinking about no furniture tennants across the road.

As I see it, someone was waiting about for an opportunity to take one of the children. William's father having gone out just made it easier for an opportunity to arise. One less adult to keep an eye on two children.

Somebody lurking behind the house up the hill. You can't see it from the porch or the kitchen because of the banking of the garden. Then across country to the cemetery, not out on the road at all.

For the other adjoining neighbours to take William as he came through the bushes seems riskier. The big open living area and balcony look straight out over the yard toward the neighbours' block. They'd have to be thinking it's likely that William was being watched from above.

 

[leep]

As a parent I can't imagine having to grab my son and leave my daughter, I would have had to wait till there was an opprtunity to grab both, wow what a dilemma if it turned out to be the case.
God I do pray this is what happened krig because the alternative is just far too bloody awful and depressing.

All moo of course.


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[Bohemian]

Maybe William's abduction was payback for someone.

Just let me say this, louise. IMO there is a reason NC has been allowed to be photographed by a 'photographer' and 'interviewed' (complete with digital recording, no doubt) by Taylor Auerbach; the 'policeman's' friend', and to have them broadcast as major news Australia-wide; despite the myriad of Court Suppression Orders. Methinks, it's all over bar the shouting. Book 'em Dano.

All MOO.

 

[crabstick]

Customs are pretty hot on children leaving the country. Parents abducting the child off to another country to prevent child payments etc

the trip to kendall on the thursday instead of the planned friday sounds like a quick decision, probably nothing, but maybe not if they had reason to feel threatened in some way,
people may have been expressing anger at the situation and pushing for change?
also regarding a passport its probably reasonably easy to get a child through customs on another childs passport?

 

[Bohemian]

Customs are pretty hot on children leaving the country. Parents abducting the child off to another country to prevent child payments etc

The only way William has left the country is if he was smuggled out. Think 'reverse refugees'.

 

[crabstick]

More than just one adult, the father. For many fathers, to have that in your sights. Imagine being chased by a father in that situation. That's a much higher risk of being killed. Even in a car chase you would end up run off the road.

Having the father removed from the situation meant a dramatically reduced chance of capture.

As I see it, someone was waiting about for an opportunity to take one of the children. William's father having gone out just made it easier for an opportunity to arise. One less adult to keep an eye on two children.

Somebody lurking behind the house up the hill. You can't see it from the porch or the kitchen because of the banking of the garden. Then across country to the cemetery, not out on the road at all.

For the other adjoining neighbours to take William as he came through the bushes seems riskier. The big open living area and balcony look straight out over the yard toward the neighbours' block. They'd have to be thinking it's likely that William was being watched from above.

A sail boat of some size? It makes you wonder whether all boats should be subject to customs log at port?

I think boats are better monitored today with technology.

The only way William has left the country is if he was smuggled out. Think 'reverse refugees'.

 

[Bohemian]

As I see it, someone was waiting about for an opportunity to take one of the children. William's father having gone out just made it easier for an opportunity to arise. One less adult to keep an eye on two children.

Somebody lurking behind the house up the hill. You can't see it from the porch or the kitchen because of the banking of the garden. Then across country to the cemetery, not out on the road at all.

For the other adjoining neighbours to take William as he came through the bushes seems riskier. The big open living area and balcony look straight out over the yard toward the neighbours' block. They'd have to be thinking it's likely that William was being watched from above.

Yup, and don't forget the 'bait'.

 

[crabstick]

How bad does a parent have to be in this day and age for the child to be forcibly removed by CP and fostered out?


That cemetery road has meant not even entering the street

As I see it, someone was waiting about for an opportunity to take one of the children. William's father having gone out just made it easier for an opportunity to arise. One less adult to keep an eye on two children.

Somebody lurking behind the house up the hill. You can't see it from the porch or the kitchen because of the banking of the garden. Then across country to the cemetery, not out on the road at all.

For the other adjoining neighbours to take William as he came through the bushes seems riskier. The big open living area and balcony look straight out over the yard toward the neighbours' block. They'd have to be thinking it's likely that William was being watched from above.

 

[Bohemian]

A sail boat of some size? It makes you wonder whether all boats should be subject to customs log at port?

I think boats are better monitored to day with technology.

Like this you mean, crabby?

There are five blokes detained in Victoria(?) on alleged terrorism charges who towed a boat from there to FNQ. They had allegedly planned to leave Australia and join daesh. They were caught in FNQ after a tip-off or because they were on an AFP 'watch list'.

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-...boat-escape-to-join-fighting-in-syria/7415066

 

[Bohemian]

How bad does a parent have to be in this day and age for the child to be forcibly removed by CP and fostered out?

Enough to be referred to as a 'bad man' by a young girl?

 

[Eloise]

How bad does a parent have to be in this day and age for the child to be forcibly removed by CP and fostered out?

If what's been said is the truth, what WT and his sister's bio father did was very, very bad. That he's not listed as a POI is frankly surprising to me. Of course he could be one of the unnamed ones.

And if the rumours are true (AND YES I know the WS rules on rumours but c'mon, this case... what else is there when we're 'not being told the truth' in the MSM?) then WT is NOT "safe" if he's with his bio father.

 

[Bohemian]

If what's been said is the truth, what WT and his sister's bio father did was very, very bad. That he's not listed as a POI is frankly surprising to me. Of course he could be one of the unnamed ones.

And if the rumours are true (AND YES I know the WS rules on rumours but c'mon, this case... what else is there when we're 'not being told the truth' in the MSM?) then WT is NOT "safe" if he's with his bio father.

Not rumour, crabby, 'conjecture'

I have yet to be 100% convinced that William and his sister are more than biological siblings via maternal DNA only.

If William's BM is a 'bad man', no one may be 100% safe with him.

 

[Eloise]

IIRC there was a tweet where a relative of KT congratulated her on having 'another' baby with her partner (i.e. WT, being younger than his sister). I'm pretty sure they're fully siblings.

I thought I'd saved it, because it featured the bio dad's full name ... can't find it though I've changed computers twice since WT's disappearance.

ETA I do believe this case will be solved, but it does feel as cold as the weather right now. I wish they'd give some updates! Hopefully the reason they can't is for strategic reasons only, and not because they aren't making progress.

ETAA I found a FB screenshot which must be what I was remembering. It's congratulating KT on the birth of WT's sister. Not sure that the man named is WT's bio dad. Can someone who knows his name confirm? Search for KT (full name) and look at google image results. Fifth result for me.

 

[krig101]

IIRC there was a tweet where a relative of KT congratulated her on having 'another' baby with her partner (i.e. WT, being younger than his sister). I'm pretty sure they're fully siblings.

I thought I'd saved it, because it featured the bio dad's full name ... can't find it though I've changed computers twice since WT's disappearance.

ETA I do believe this case will be solved, but it does feel as cold as the weather right now. I wish they'd give some updates! Hopefully the reason they can't is for strategic reasons only, and not because they aren't making progress.

ETAA I found a FB screenshot which must be what I was remembering. It's congratulating KT on the birth of WT's sister. Not sure that the man named is WT's bio dad. Can someone who knows his name confirm? Search for KT (full name) and look at google image results. Fifth result for me.

Yup thats it

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[krig101]

Of course he could be one of the unnamed ones.

I've always thought this. So many cases I've followed where police assure the public that family aren't suspects or POI's when they were all along.....JMO


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[PainExpress]

Yup thats it

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That's just his first name, right?

 

[sosocurious]

Something I have always wondered about is if your 3 year old foster child went missing.
Would you not mention that they were a foster child when you rang 000 given all the nuances that are related to being foster parent, let alone a missing one?
imo

 

[frogwell]

Something I have always wondered about is if your 3 year old foster child went missing.
Would you not mention that they were a foster child when you rang 000 given all the nuances that are related to being foster parent, let alone a missing one?
imo

Maybe they did, can't help but wonder if the 000 phone recording released in the media had a bit of editing. Another question about the phonecall. does the operator ask about shoes in the middle of the call? I turned it up and listened a dozen times but could not hear it clearly. The FM replies to her," um, um, um, he has a freckle on his head when his hair is parted to the left."

 

[krig101]

That's just his first name, right?

Yes. Same surname as NC

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