Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #22

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For sure we do Bohemian
 
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Someone with the pedo abduction tradecraft would be in that mindset all the time. The neighbours on holidays between the cemetery and FMs house is a big factor.

Parents upstairs, kids downstairs and because there is no fences someone in a car could see that from the street.

Remember we saw that google image of red in the bush. Had William wandered over to the bush? How old was his sister? She knew where he was?


Warshawski said:
So Crabby, on that basis, does your gut tell you of something planned or spur-of-the-moment ?

either scenario to me would present a need for knowledge of the area and a safe escape route... Also a silenced William but that could be easily achieved with some choloform.

In my opinion, planned - by whom is the question.
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Excellent post, Warshawski, thank you.

Warshawski said:
Surely though Katy this has been investigated with a fine tooth comb...yes I agree it just seems so convenient, and just maybe it did reveal something.

I do also agree with those who suggest Jube and his team know the answer, IMO they just have to place the right bait & set the trap fine enough so it leaves no wriggle room.

And IMO that is the reason we are left so frustratingly devoid of information. There is the old saying that 'one knows enough to be dangerous' and well intentioned as we all are, I believe this is so sensitive, and Jubey so determined, that there can be no chance of a mistake.

Like so many, I waver & struggle between the BS theory & the 'abduction for another reason'.

There is documented evidence of the presence of numerous pedophiles in the area and I doubt that is just a simple coincidence.

BS has serious allegations to answer, and it is absolutely right that all victims have the opportunity to bring the perpetuators before the courts and to see & feel justice be done. And if the only good to come out of all this is to clean up this scum then some good has certainly come.

Of course BS will have his supporters - right or wrong, there are very few people who go through life with EVERYONE knowing and believing them to be a total as&$(:. .

It's good to see that Rodney is supportive & close to his Dad. That's very important for a boy / man. I do wonder what toll it may have taken on RS personal life though as AS seems to have moved on. Perhaps she may no longer be making positive statements to the media.
And even though it was said (was it by AS) that all his 5 kids supported him totally, there is no real evidence of that. Does anyone know - is it 4 sons and 1 daughter ? Christine a M ? I cannot locate the daughter.
MS family appears to be another hotbed. Where are those 3 grand kids now - 2 perhaps with their dad?

.. all the above just me trying to put stuff together .. and I am not wanting to be mean as I cannot imagine what ones life would be like under the microscope like this - and especially being innocent!

Next scenario, and by far more secretive.

A little girl & her younger brother (by 15 months) are removed from their birth home before William's 1st Birthday, and go to live with 'Mummy & Daddy'. They are much loved also by F Grandma & Grandpa who live in Kendall (northern NSW) and a few hours drive from home in Sydney (was it Northern beaches).

Wind forward 2+ years and there is this catastrophic event involving poor little 3 year old William.

No information has been made public of the events or activities in his life up to this fateful September 2014 day ... Except the release of photographs of an apparently happy and healthy little boy that belie the drama that may have led up to the time of that snap.

We know the suffering of the F parents... They have spoken, they have begged, time and again.

There is also now a little girl without her little brother. A little girl who, with the amazing insight of children and given the surmised circumstances, would have seen herself as William's protector. A little girl who will now be school age, who will no doubt be torn in two... but perhaps is being home-schooled in the interest of her safety, both physical & mental.

We don't know about the biological parents, except for the fact that we are aware of a viviparous human KAT who remains amazingly unemotional.
Along with a distraught bio grandmother who has her own theories, but for whatever reason, has stopped short of spelling them out.

We presume the identity secrecy is to do with the fact that William & sister L are in foster care & that DOCS have all these rules ( shame some of those rules haven't saved the lives of the like of Mason Lee etc etc ).

Lets maybe hear from some of those DOCs workers who are upset, disappointed, frustrated in The System. Let's put some People Power behind this for the good of our Kids & our society.

All of the above is purely my personal expression and opinion.
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FromGermany said:
I remember BS' first wife had children with another man and BS became the stepfather of the little girls .... Or am I wrong? I remember I stumbled over this thinking: pedos are always searching for women with little children. I may be wrong. Have to look for that. :gaah:
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Puggle said:
Im not 100% on this..but I think it was reported that the youngest victim wasn't able to recall the event....she would have only been 3 from memory...... but the fact they didn't completely drop the case against him...for me suggests the courts had decided that on the victim statement of the elder child and any other additional evidence...that there was enough to continue and not simply dismiss the case.

FromGermany...... how it was prooved or if it was ?? Ya really stretching my grey matter ...lol...think it was the eldest was his step daughter...the youngest his biological.
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Hey Puggle, I know this was a quote from a little ways back but had to revisit when I came to the icky realization that the youngest may be his bio daughter. The current charges regarding Campbelltown are from 1987 when the 2 girls were 6 & 3. The Vic charges are for between 1983 - 1985. The youngest would not yet have been born in the year of the first allegations. I am now wondering where BS's first partner/wife resided after she split with him... Could it have been in Vic? Potentially visiting his other kids with his new ones to meet their step-siblings? I so hope none of his older kids are any of the others accused. If one of the victims is his bio daughter then it would be very possible for any of his older ones to have been victims also, or groomed to be perpetrators. I like this horrid excuse for a human less and less by the second. C'mon Jubelin, you almost have him!!!
 
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Wozzie said:
Hey Puggle, I know this was a quote from a little ways back but had to revisit when I came to the icky realization that the youngest may be his bio daughter. The current charges regarding Campbelltown are from 1987 when the 2 girls were 6 & 3. The Vic charges are for between 1983 - 1985. The youngest would not yet have been born in the year of the first allegations. I am now wondering where BS's first partner/wife resided after she split with him... Could it have been in Vic? Potentially visiting his other kids with his new ones to meet their step-siblings? I so hope none of his older kids are any of the others accused. If one of the victims is his bio daughter then it would be very possible for any of his older ones to have been victims also, or groomed to be perpetrators. I like this horrid excuse for a human less and less by the second. C'mon Jubelin, you almost have him!!!
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Unfortunately I think victim is his bio daughter. She appears to be connected still to the bio mum side of the family.
 
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The more I think about it the less I can see it. I dont think a pedo would become an abductor in his 60s. BS might very well be a pedo and I hope he is punished for it if he is, but I find it hard to believe that he would start abducting this late in life. He would have done it well before this. I still feel William's abduction has something to do with his family situation. Some of connections are just too coincidental for me.
 
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louisepiglet said:
The more I think about it the less I can see it. I dont think a pedo would become an abductor in his 60s. BS might very well be a pedo and I hope he is punished for it if he is, but I find it hard to believe that he would start abducting this late in life. He would have done it well before this. I still feel William's abduction has something to do with his family situation. Some of connections are just too coincidental for me.
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And spedding seems to be connected both ways both scenarios - paedophile and family connection
 
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There would be a vague possibility that BS/plus friends (pedos) had no scruples to help maybe the bio family. BS/plus friends may have planned to give little spiderman back to his fosters BUT then something happened and the abductors suddenly faced a huge problem to return William .....
 
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FromGermany said:
There would be a vague possibility that BS/plus friends (pedos) had no scruples to help maybe the bio family. BS/plus friends may have planned to give little spiderman back to his fosters BUT then something happened and the abductors suddenly faced a huge problem to return William .....
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if this was the situation, the cautious little boy may have been so traumatised he had an asthma attack?
 
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Watching a current affair. Terry Floyd case from 1975. Dirty paedophiles giving alibi for eachother, rings a bell .
 
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If someone already has charges against them, police might wait until they are heading out the gates of a prison sentence, then put the cuffs on them and take em back in.... Obviously, the longer police wait, the more comes out, relationships change, more evidence comes forward. The case is locked down tighter. Someone might do time, then go back in.

If they are found guilty of other cases first. Other evidence is heard that may give further evidence. If they are in jail, they are in jail. Back to back.
 
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Wozzie said:
Hey Puggle, I know this was a quote from a little ways back but had to revisit when I came to the icky realization that the youngest may be his bio daughter. The current charges regarding Campbelltown are from 1987 when the 2 girls were 6 & 3. The Vic charges are for between 1983 - 1985. The youngest would not yet have been born in the year of the first allegations. I am now wondering where BS's first partner/wife resided after she split with him... Could it have been in Vic? Potentially visiting his other kids with his new ones to meet their step-siblings? I so hope none of his older kids are any of the others accused. If one of the victims is his bio daughter then it would be very possible for any of his older ones to have been victims also, or groomed to be perpetrators. I like this horrid excuse for a human less and less by the second. C'mon Jubelin, you almost have him!!!
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Hi Wozzie, Puggle and all you other much more technologically skilled at sleuthing than I am. .. And also thank you. I have no idea of the 'daughters', be they of 1st, 2nd or whatever.

as per my earlier poste, searching for daughter/s. I think I am aware of 4 sons x BS. 2 x sons of MS. .. I may be totally inaccurate.
 
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Sorry Wozzie, meant also to acknowledge and comment on your date line. I thought the charges in both states were from very similar time frames. Which did intrigue me. When did the BS / CH split occur? I can't even work out if they share kids, bio or otherwise.
 
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