Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #25

[SouthAussie]

This is from a US article (cannot find an Australian link :sigh: ), and it says that a different court case will proceed even if the defendant is in prison. I wonder if the same applies here in Australia.
If it does - and I would hope that it would - Spedding may spend time in prison in NSW, then upon 'release' go straight to prison in Victoria ... presuming that the creep is found guilty, of course.


For example, someone in custody awaiting trial may be charged in another case in another county; or an inmate in a state prison may find that he is being charged with a another crime in a neighboring state.
In either situation, the issuing jurisdiction (the court that issued the warrant) may demand that the prisoner be brought before it to answer to the warrant. Usually, the defendant is transported to the court, enters a plea, and is returned to the original jail or prison, either right away or after additional proceedings. The original jail or prison and the issuing jurisdiction work out the details of where the prisoner will stay pending resolution of the case.
http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.co...endants-rights/warrant-while-incarcerated.htm

 

[sosocurious]

https://onlineregistry.lawlink.nsw....160016683815022776MentionPolice/anthony jones

AJ back to Port Court 10 November

 

[sosocurious]

https://onlineregistry.lawlink.nsw....0030752415002616MentionPolice/natalie collins

Blacktown Court
17 October
NC

That nearly snuck through.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

https://onlineregistry.lawlink.nsw....0030752415002616MentionPolice/natalie collins

Blacktown Court
17 October
https://onlineregistry.lawlink.nsw....0030752415002616MentionPolice/natalie collins

That nearly snuck through.

Oh! :facepalm: She also??? Then I guess she is more desperate because of that than because of her missing grandson. - What does her "best friend" have on her schedule ...?

 

[sosocurious]

https://onlineregistry.lawlink.nsw....0022291714915560MentionPolice/brendan collins

would this court date be relevant?

https://onlineregistry.lawlink.nsw....160031102415010152MentionPolice/anthony jones
or this

 

[sosocurious]

Coroner who helped crack Daniel Morcombe murder on William Tyrrell case

The coroner who helped crack the Daniel Morcombe murder case has been tasked with assisting the investigation into the disappearance of NSW toddler William Tyrrell.

NSW State Coroner Michael Barnes has revealed he is working "closely" with homicide detectives probing the disappearance of the then three-year-old, , The Daily Telegraph reports.

However, Mr Barnes added that no steps had been taken to open a coronial inquest at this stage................

Mr Barnes said that while inquests into unsolved homicides are usually held after a police investigation concludes, coronial courts can help to advance investigations.


Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...be-murder-on-tyrrell-case#P5TS1zhEytJKhOZe.99

 

[deugirtni]

A KEY suspect in one of Australia’s most baffling missing children cases has again been excused from appearing in a Victorian court on rape charges. (BUBM)

The money he could make from defamation cases in regards to WT if he is never charged is big. MOO

I agree. I am sorry but I find that headline appalling. Which publication put that wording in there? Imagine for a moment, if you were a person reading that headline, and had little or no previous knowledge of the WT case (unlike ourselves), how that comes across;

A KEY suspect IN one of Australia's most baffling missing children cases has AGAIN been EXCUSED from appearing in a Victorian court on RAPE CHARGES. That makes it sound that the person who is a key suspect in a missing children case has been excused AGAIN from appearing on rape charges, making it seem that the two cases are one, or connected somehow, and that it is felt he is getting away with something by being excused AGAIN. Wow. That disgusts me. First, police have stated that he is NOT a suspect; second, these charges he faces have zero to do with the WT case; third, the unrelated, historical charges that he *does* face may very well be bogus and he may very well be not guilty. I'm sure that you all are glad you are not a person worth speaking to in a case over there!

police reiterate tradesman is not a suspect
Police have reiterated Spedding is not a suspect in William’s disappearance.

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...h-police-reiterate-tradesman-is-not-a-suspect

The local businessman has repeatedly denied any involvement in the toddler's disappearance and police have maintained he is not a suspect, but was a "person of interest" and only one line of inquiry they are pursuing.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/bill-sped...ion-on-unrelated-charges-20150422-1mqkeq.html

Tradesman ruled out of missing toddler case
Police said that the 63-year-old grandfather “is not a suspect in the case”.
....
Police have reiterated Mr Spedding is not a suspect in William’s disappearance.

http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/state/nsw/2015/01/22/tradesman-ruled-out-of-missing-toddler-case/

Mr Spedding is a person of interest but has not been charged and is not a suspect according to police.

http://www.aww.com.au/latest-news/n...nd-day-of-new-search-for-william-tyrell-16670

etc

 

[frogwell]

I agree. I am sorry but I find that headline appalling. Which publication put that wording in there? Imagine for a moment, if you were a person reading that headline, and had little or no previous knowledge of the WT case (unlike ourselves), how that comes across;

A KEY suspect IN one of Australia's most baffling missing children cases has AGAIN been EXCUSED from appearing in a Victorian court on RAPE CHARGES. That makes it sound that the person who is a key suspect in a missing children case has been excused AGAIN from appearing on rape charges, making it seem that the two cases are one, or connected somehow, and that it is felt he is getting away with something by being excused AGAIN. Wow. That disgusts me. First, police have stated that he is NOT a suspect; second, these charges he faces have zero to do with the WT case; third, the unrelated, historical charges that he *does* face may very well be bogus and he may very well be not guilty. I'm sure that you all are glad you are not a person worth speaking to in a case over there!


https://www.theguardian.com/austral...h-police-reiterate-tradesman-is-not-a-suspect


http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/bill-sped...ion-on-unrelated-charges-20150422-1mqkeq.html


http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/state/nsw/2015/01/22/tradesman-ruled-out-of-missing-toddler-case/


http://www.aww.com.au/latest-news/n...nd-day-of-new-search-for-william-tyrell-16670

etc

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/la...w/news-story/d4efdfbe16d3576a586f449661fd5e0b

The wording to the article has been changed now to "a key person of interest"

 

[Sillybilly]

Family are not named POIs/suspects, so please stop sleuthing them.

:wave:

 

[crabstick]

Until someone is proven an accessory to the WT crime. What sort of deals will other people going to court do to get out???

Multiple states of accusation. Maybe authorities are permitted under the circumstances.

I agree. I am sorry but I find that headline appalling. Which publication put that wording in there? Imagine for a moment, if you were a person reading that headline, and had little or no previous knowledge of the WT case (unlike ourselves), how that comes across;

A KEY suspect IN one of Australia's most baffling missing children cases has AGAIN been EXCUSED from appearing in a Victorian court on RAPE CHARGES. That makes it sound that the person who is a key suspect in a missing children case has been excused AGAIN from appearing on rape charges, making it seem that the two cases are one, or connected somehow, and that it is felt he is getting away with something by being excused AGAIN. Wow. That disgusts me. First, police have stated that he is NOT a suspect; second, these charges he faces have zero to do with the WT case; third, the unrelated, historical charges that he *does* face may very well be bogus and he may very well be not guilty. I'm sure that you all are glad you are not a person worth speaking to in a case over there!


https://www.theguardian.com/austral...h-police-reiterate-tradesman-is-not-a-suspect


http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/bill-sped...ion-on-unrelated-charges-20150422-1mqkeq.html


http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/state/nsw/2015/01/22/tradesman-ruled-out-of-missing-toddler-case/


http://www.aww.com.au/latest-news/n...nd-day-of-new-search-for-william-tyrell-16670

etc

 

[Sillybilly]

Do NOT post/link to information on any individual unless you are 100% certain they are who you think they are. This is especially important when dealing with reasonably common names. You have to have more than "oh hey, here's John Smith in court in Australia, so it must be our John Smith".

Food for thought ... a child may carry a mother's maiden name, or a stepfather's name, or the surname may be totally different due to other marriages/relationships that parent(s) may have had.

Please post responsibly.

:tyou:

 

[SouthAussie]

A KEY suspect IN one of Australia's most baffling missing children cases has AGAIN been EXCUSED from appearing in a Victorian court on RAPE CHARGES. That makes it sound that the person who is a key suspect in a missing children case has been excused AGAIN from appearing on rape charges, making it seem that the two cases are one, or connected somehow, and that it is felt he is getting away with something by being excused AGAIN. Wow. That disgusts me. First, police have stated that he is NOT a suspect; second, these charges he faces have zero to do with the WT case; third, the unrelated, historical charges that he *does* face may very well be bogus and he may very well be not guilty. I'm sure that you all are glad you are not a person worth speaking to in a case over there!

BBM: I think that is splitting hairs.

And I may be the only person here that feels this way, but I do not have any problem whatsoever with MSM splashing this creepy pervs name and court details across their pages.
I wish they would splash every creepy pervs name somewhere ..... like in a PUBLIC national sex offender registry.

MSM have lawyers. They are not going to do this if there is a risk of legal suit due to inaccuracy. And once he becomes a convicted pedo, he is going to fall under the protection of the law and you'll not see his name again. :sigh:


ETA: And I think it is about time we started believing our children. When they say that 'Uncle Bill' has raped them (in their own language) there is a 99.999% chance that they are speaking the TRUTH. Let's not help the pedos out here.

 

[Bohemian]

BBM: I think that is splitting hairs.

And I may be the only person here that feels this way, but I do not have any problem whatsoever with MSM splashing this creepy pervs name and court details across their pages.
I wish they would splash every creepy pervs name somewhere ..... like in a PUBLIC national sex offender registry.

Hear, hear SA and the sooner; the better.

 

[SouthAussie]

Doesn't anyone here wonder why Spedding has not been ruled out of being a POI? After two years and an intensive investigation, no-one has said 'Hey Bill, you creepy alleged pedo who is up on charges in more than one state. Sorry 'bout that. You are no longer a POI. Please, go about your business, and sue the heck out of us.'

 

[Bohemian]

Doesn't anyone here wonder why Spedding has not been ruled out of being a POI? After two years and an intensive investigation, no-one has said 'Hey Bill, you creepy alleged pedo who is up on charges in more than one state. Sorry 'bout that. You are no longer a POI. Please, go about your business, and sue the heck out of us.'

Oo..oo..me..me! *vertically gesticulates hand* Pick me!

Could that be because he is involved in William's disappearance in some way; together with another former Wellington local?

 

[SouthAussie]

Oo..oo..me..me! *vertically gesticulates hand* Pick me!

Could that be because he is involved in William's disappearance in some way; together with another former Wellington local?

Lol ... thanks, Bohemian.

I don't know who else is involved, though I suspect his service call and travels that afternoon may point in the right direction, but there is a reason that Spedding had been on their radar since the very early days. And when Jubelin took over the investigation he tried to force the issue by letting MSM get up close to their searches of Spedding's properties.

Jubelin did this, to try to warn people about the danger to their children, should they be in this creep's presence. And to try to get the spouse/anyone else to tell what they know, and/or get the POI to crumble. William's parents have tried to get the spouse/anyone else to tell what they know by appealing to any parental (or self preservation) instincts they may have. None of that has worked, to date. So the huge reward goes on the table to entice.

imo

 

[Bohemian]

Lol ... thanks, Bohemian.

I don't know who else is involved, though I suspect his service call and travels that afternoon may point in the right direction, but there is a reason that Spedding had been on their radar since the very early days. And when Jubelin took over the investigation he tried to force the issue by letting MSM get up close to their searches of Spedding's properties.

Jubelin did this, to try to warn people about the danger to their children, should they be in this creep's presence. And to try to get the spouse/anyone else to tell what they know, and/or get the POI to crumble. William's parents have tried to get the spouse/anyone else to tell what they know by appealing to any parental (or self preservation) instincts they may have. None of that has worked, to date. So the huge reward goes on the table to entice.

imo

Agreed.

Well, we do know of a Dunbogan local; don't we? A damned cocky one too.

 

[Bohemian]

ETA: And I think it is about time we started believing our children. When they say that 'Uncle Bill' has raped them (in their own language) there is a 99.999% chance that they are speaking the TRUTH. Let's not help the pedos out here.

I'd say it's more like 99.9% recurring that our children are telling the truth. Always listen to, believe and report when a child tells you they are being touched inappropriately. All children whether they are 'yours' or not. It takes a village to raise them and we are the gatekeepers.

 

[Warshawski]

https://onlineregistry.lawlink.nsw....0030752415002616MentionPolice/natalie collins

Blacktown Court
17 October
NC

That nearly snuck through.

oh my good Lord.. What now! Seems this whole family, and its outreach, keeps the courts in activity!! Who is R that is the V party I wonder ?

 

[Bohemian]

oh my good Lord.. What now! Seems this whole family, and its outreach, keeps the courts in activity!! Who is R that is the V party I wonder ?

Yup, now we know where a lot of our tax dollars go.

R stands for Regina (The Crown/The Queen; who is our Australian Head of State).

'Citations of criminal cases

This example will explain the key elements of the legal citation:

Example: R v Carroll (2002) 213 CLR 635; (2002) 194 ALR 1

Name of case is R v Carroll
R or Regina refers to the Crown (Regina means "queen" in latin)'

http://guides.sl.nsw.gov.au/content.php?pid=535553&sid=5073879