Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #25

[Bohemian]

Still targeting NSW & QLD... obviously we know why NSW, but why QLD, why not all of Australia, makes me think Jube's has a very good idea of what happened & who they are targeting.

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-...ies-join-the-campaign-to-find-william/7979394


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Interesting area. From your link:

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-...ies-join-the-campaign-to-find-william/7979394

'The Where's William campaign said the rollout of signs on taxis covered from Sydney to the Central Coast, the Mid North Coast centres of Port Macquarie and Coffs Harbour, and north to Brisbane.

Nonstop Media's website: http://www.ultimatemedia.com.au/networks/taxi-topper-network.aspx

 

[tiddles24]

Still targeting NSW & QLD... obviously we know why NSW, but why QLD, why not all of Australia, makes me think Jube's has a very good idea of what happened & who they are targeting.

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-...ies-join-the-campaign-to-find-william/7979394




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Local radio ads on William & the $1M Reward are still being aired daily (at around 1pm) here on the Sunshine Coast Qld. .....They must still be feeling confident that William is alive & being cared for by "whom?" .....Bless him !!!

 

[Bohemian]

I watched it also. I couldn't help but wonder at the timing of it. I wonder how many of these 'people' have been exposed as a result of investigations related to William? I thought she was an incredibly brave and compassionate woman and I really felt for her. She still had more concern for those children than herself. I wonder how many find (or suspect) this sort of thing and do not report it? i dare say it isn't an easy thing to report, but I don't have the words to describe what it is probably like for the children involved.

Yes, Inspector, I wondered about the timing too and how it may relate to William's current circumstances.

My daughter and I had a conversation about the women who have been selfless and brave enough to come forward to save children from being exploited and abused by their partners. We agreed it would be extremely difficult but that doing the right thing by reporting it is the only way forward.

Imagine living each day with that knowledge. It would be soul-destroying. IMO their partner would be abusing their trust as well. It's a no-win situation to remain silent

Imagine the shame if you were charged with being an accessory because investigators got to you before you mustered up the courage to report this type of crime. You would lose everything, including your freedom and, more than likely, your friends and family.

Thank God for Partner Speak to help support women in these situations.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

http://www.creative.apndigital.com....e-qlds-worst-sex-offenders-are-lving/3079694/

WHERE QLD SEX OFFENDERS LIVE

67 Brisbane

17 Townsville

4 Toowoomba

3 Rockhampton

1 Caboolture

1 Hervey Bay

1 Beenleigh

Documents released by the Queensland Justice Department, under freedom of information laws, in March show there are presently 94 people who have been released from jail but remain subject to police monitoring because their crimes were of a violent sexual nature or involved children.

The majority of them, 67, report to the Brisbane Correctional Centre office in Wacol and 17 live in Townsville, the third highest concentration of dangerous sex offenders in Queensland is in Toowoomba which four call home and three are living in Rockhampton.

The remaining three live in Caboolture, Beenleigh and Hervey Bay on the Fraser Coast.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...enders-tip-of-the-iceberg-20110711-1hal0.html

More than 3200 child sex offenders are living in Queensland, according to latest records from a national register.

Child protection advocates say the number is the “tip of the iceberg” and are urging parents to ensure their children are aware of their personal safety and feel free to talk about any intrusions.

While the media focus is often on the repeat child sex offenders described as the “worst of the worst”, parents have been told the main risk comes from trusted family members and friends.

 

[SouthAussie]

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...enders-tip-of-the-iceberg-20110711-1hal0.html

More than 3200 child sex offenders are living in Queensland, according to latest records from a national register.

Child protection advocates say the number is the “tip of the iceberg” and are urging parents to ensure their children are aware of their personal safety and feel free to talk about any intrusions.

While the media focus is often on the repeat child sex offenders described as the “worst of the worst”, parents have been told the main risk comes from trusted family members and friends.

And to make matters even worse ..... (this was in September 2014, cannot imagine the number now).

1,700 released child sex offenders no longer being monitored by Queensland Police
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-...x-offenders-no-longer-being-monitored/5957200

Queensland changed its offender reporting requirements, so unless a creep has been convicted of child rape or is a repeat (convicted) offender, they are no longer watched.
Apparently, the govt 'does not have the resources', so they can roam and not be watched/monitored, or ensure they are not living with children/near a school, etc etc etc.

And, of course, no public child sex offender registry ... so the public cannot even watch out for them.

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[crabstick]

Makes you wonder if someone has been caught on a traffic monitoring camera somewhere

Still targeting NSW & QLD... obviously we know why NSW, but why QLD, why not all of Australia, makes me think Jube's has a very good idea of what happened & who they are targeting.
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-...ies-join-the-campaign-to-find-william/7979394
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It like double or nothing isn't it. If he is charged, hell be pounded by the legal team for all costs of both cases if he wins the first. Maybe he has been given legal advice to stay low. After all he may be questioned.

I don't think he could bring a lawsuit just yet, because the case isn't solved. Can you imagine if he sued and then was subsequently charged and convicted after receiving a windfall for defamation? i think he will have to wait until the case is solved and someone else is charged, jmo. It seems unfair that he can continue to be named as a poi for years, with no resolution either way - either charge him, or clear him - but yet they cannot - not until the case is solved. In the meantime, BS's life is held in limbo, having been named in MSM, which leads people to assume guilt.

 

[crabstick]

I have spoken to some people in legal about this. You can be put on the sexual offenders list for smacking someone on the bum. But there is a plethora of legal issues.

How would you feel about compensating a serious sexual offender millions after a fatal vigilante attack via the sexual offenders list? Derryn Hinch would know better than all of us about the legal ramifications this can bring. A criminal lawyer might be able to give those curious a list of why nots. So you have to ask why Hinch keeps blowing the horn if he knows a public sex offender list cannot be achieved?

Dont shoot the messenger. I'm trying to provide a yang to a very emotional argument. Not protecting it.

And to make matters even worse ..... (this was in September 2014, cannot imagine the number now).

1,700 released child sex offenders no longer being monitored by Queensland Police
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-...x-offenders-no-longer-being-monitored/5957200

Queensland changed its offender reporting requirements, so unless a creep has been convicted of child rape or is a repeat (convicted) offender, they are no longer watched.
Apparently, the govt 'does not have the resources', so they can roam and not be watched/monitored, or ensure they are not living with children/near a school, etc etc etc.

And, of course, no public child sex offender registry ... so the public cannot even watch out for them.

.

 

[SouthAussie]

I have spoken to some people in legal about this. You can be put on the sexual offenders list for smacking someone on the bum. But there is a plethora of legal issues.

How would you feel about compensating a serious sexual offender millions after a fatal vigilante attack via the sexual offenders list? Derryn Hinch would know better than all of us about the legal ramifications this can bring. A criminal lawyer might be able to give those curious a list of why nots. So you have to ask why Hinch keeps blowing the horn if he knows a public sex offender list cannot be achieved?

Dont shoot the messenger. I'm trying to provide a yang to a very emotional argument. Not protecting it.

I won't shoot you, crabstick. All I will say is that, in my opinion, nothing is too great if it helps protect our children from pedophiles.

And I don't really buy the 'all he did was slap her on the arse' argument. Maybe all he should have done is not slap her on the arse. I hear this each time there are calls for a public sex offenders registry.

It is not a good enough reason, to me, to disallow the public the info required to help protect their children ... especially when the monitoring of sex offenders ceases after a certain period of time anyway - between 8-15 years I believe - let alone Qld not monitoring many people who have been caught and convicted for the first time (and yet still may have been multiple offenders).

Vigilantism has not been an issue in the USA where they have a robust public sex offender registry. But then again, they put their child sex offenders away for a long time, not for the few months or few years that we lock ours up for.

Thanks for providing the yang.

 

[crabstick]

You risk becoming the monster you pursue

Another common occurrence is two young kids do what kids do and the boy comes of age, vexatious parents press charges. He serves time. His on the sexual offenders list. The law determines she is a child, him an adult by one day, but he is not a sexual predator.

Just because some idiot slaps some bloke on the arse at work, does not mean they should be at risk of some mentally ill psychopath who feels righteous enough to look up their address in the public register and kill them. Punishing people is the job of the law and that is what makes society civil. Otherwise society are animals. Monsters they pursue,

If people feel strongly enough then they should be pounding the Queensland government over the dropping the monitoring program. Thats what should be happening but I bet you its not. Instead individuals will focus on targeting those on the sex offenders list in a drunken rage. Some of those predators are victims of child abuse.

Hinch should know the ins and outs of a sex offenders list repercussions. If anyone should, he should know the law. Nothing he says is rational with his knowledge of the law. But I feel the human headline is using a very emotional issue to well, stay a human headline. It has served his income well. A martyr bathed in wealth,

If you want to fund paedophiles a lavish lifestyle of luxury with commensurate compensation packages. Go for the sex offenders list.

I won't shoot you, crabstick. All I will say is that, in my opinion, nothing is too great if it helps protect our children from paedophiles.

And I don't really buy the 'all he did was slap her on the arse' argument. Maybe all he should have done is not slap her on the arse. I hear this each time there are calls for a public sex offenders registry.

It is not a good enough reason, to me, to disallow the public the info required to help protect their children ... especially when the monitoring of sex offenders ceases after a certain period of time anyway - between 8-15 years I believe - let alone Qld not monitoring many people who have been caught and convicted for the first time (and yet still may have been multiple offenders).

Vigilantism has not been an issue in the USA where they have a robust public sex offender registry. But then again, they put their child sex offenders away for a long time, not for the few months or few years that we lock ours up for.

Thanks for providing the yang.

 

[crabstick]

Ive been in an environment where I have met a few criminals. Drifters that live an existence on the road with no fixed address. Sometimes two men with heroin addiction. The potential for the sex offenders list is, paedophiles live out a mini van. And by GOD you don't want that. Criminals just disappear into the woods and work in the underground, in the heath of cash and little country towns, living just inside the undergrowth on the fringe of old growth forest.

Staring through the leaves where children play, and nobody knows they are even there.

 

[SouthAussie]

You risk becoming the monster you pursue

Another common occurrence is two young kids do what kids do and the boy comes of age, Vexatious parents press charges. He serves time.

Just because some idiot slaps some bloke on the arse at work, does not mean they should be at risk of some mentally ill psychopath who feels righteous enough to look up their address in the public register. Punishing people is the job of the law.

If people feel strongly enough then they should be pounding the Queensland government over the dropping the monitoring program. Thats what should be happening but I bet you its not.

If you want to fund paedophiles a lavish lifestyle of luxury with commensurate compensation packages. Go for the sex offenders list.

You are entitled to your opinion. Mine is different. I would dearly like to see a public sex offenders registry.

I am sick and tired of our ridiculously weak sentences for child sex offences. If we are not going to sentence pedos according to the sentences that are allowed, that are in place to be utilised, then give us access to the info we need to identify these creeps and keep them away from our children.

 

[crabstick]

I think we are all for heavier sentences. I for one think there should be electronic devices on those that have finished their time with the technology we have today. I dare say things will change over the next decade. Many people will be monitored by computers. Maybe they already are in other ways which is why there is so many stolen interstate number plates getting around.
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However if a registry does the opposite of someone's anticipation, its not the solution. How are you going to know where they are, if they are all living in mobile homes moving nightly? Ive met guys who live in vans. They come to work in the town in the day, then drive out the bush at night. False tax details. Work for a month then shift to another town.

Amercias prisons are full, and that only looks like getting worse right now.

You are entitled to your opinion. Mine is different. I would dearly like to see a public sex offenders registry.

I am sick and tired of our ridiculously weak sentences for child sex offences. If we are not going to sentence pedos according to the sentences that are allowed, that are in place to be utilised, then give us access to the info we need to identify these creeps and keep them away from our children.

 

[SouthAussie]

I think we are all for heavier sentences. I for one think there should be electronic devices on those that have finished their time with the technology we have today. I dare say things will change over the next decade. Many people will be monitored by computers. Maybe they already are in other ways which is why there is so many stolen interstate number plates getting around.

I was listening to Triple J's Hack program last week. A couple were speaking about human electronic body chips. They both had them in their palms, and used them to unlock their front door and their car doors. They were saying that more and more people are getting them. They even suggested using them for 'paywave' payments.

Something like this may be good for tracking unsavoury persons who are (according to all I have read) likely to reoffend.

There is some info here about them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microchip_implant_(human)
http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/...ive-got-you-under-my-skin-20140416-zqvho.html

 

[Deleted member 102539]

When I google "Queensland+pedophiles" I get x news about men (father, grandfather, step-grandfather and so on) and their charging/court process. What I noticed: almost always the name of the perp isn't mentioned because of legal reasons ("to protect the victim"). I think that means a problem if these men aren't named and aren't put onto the pillory.

 

[crabstick]

RFID (Radio Frequency Identification) devices are more common by the day. They will be everywhere to the point they will be printed. An example is Tom Cruise in the movie Minority Report where he moves through a shopping centre in a stolen jacket with all the digital kiosks pumping out this weird advertising at him because the jacket is off a woman.

Many SIM devices such as smartphones already scan RFID. Australia has now Skymuster NBN satellites which can accept GPRS data anywhere.

Social media computers already have algorithm models that know you better than you know you. If you buy this then you will more than likely do that.

ASIO wants metadata recording and Australians have rejected it. Google and Facebook have more than ASIO will ever have. Metadata recording would solve many of the crimes we are discussing and monitor paedophiles. But Australians are saying no, and its ASIO. But they will give it to social media to sell and not just metadata, their family photos.

Im prepared to sacrifice my human rights of privacy if it means monitoring and catching paedophiles. But is Derryn Hinch?

We wont be managing where they live, we will be managing every move they make within 2 metres at anytime. Computers will manage them. And we can predict everything about them.

You must realise, we may have already caught Williams abductor if we had ASIO metadata recording,.

I was listening to Triple J's Hack program last week. A couple were speaking about human electronic body chips. They both had them in their palms, and used them to unlock their front door and their car doors. They were saying that more and more people are getting them. They even suggested using them for 'paywave' payments.

Something like this may be good for tracking unsavoury persons who are (according to all I have read) likely to reoffend.

There is some info here about them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microchip_implant_(human)
http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/...ive-got-you-under-my-skin-20140416-zqvho.html

 

[crabstick]

Imagine satellites that new exactly where you were, just by your voice frequency sssssh

 

[SouthAussie]

Im prepared to sacrifice my human rights of privacy if it means monitoring and catching paedophiles.

You must realise, we may have already caught Williams abductor if we had metadata recording,.

Personally, I have no problem with metadata recording .... for similar reasons as yours.

 

[Bohemian]

I was listening to Triple J's Hack program last week. A couple were speaking about human electronic body chips. They both had them in their palms, and used them to unlock their front door and their car doors. They were saying that more and more people are getting them. They even suggested using them for 'paywave' payments.

Something like this may be good for tracking unsavoury persons who are (according to all I have read) likely to reoffend.

There is some info here about them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microchip_implant_(human)
http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/...ive-got-you-under-my-skin-20140416-zqvho.html

RFID (Radio Frequency Identification) devices are more common by the day. They will be everywhere to the point they will be printed. An example is Tom Cruise in the movie Minority Report where he moves through a shopping centre in a stolen jacket with all the digital kiosks pumping out this weird advertising at him because the jacket is off a woman.

Many SIM devices such as smartphones already scan RFID. Australia has now Skymuster NBN satellites which can accept GPRS data anywhere.

Social media computers already have algorithm models that know you better than you know you. If you buy this then you will more than likely do that.

ASIO wants metadata recording and Australians have rejected it. Google and Facebook have more than ASIO will ever have. Metadata recording would solve many of the crimes we are discussing and monitor paedophiles. But Australians are saying no, and its ASIO. But they will give it to social media to sell and not just metadata, their family photos.

Im prepared to sacrifice my human rights of privacy if it means monitoring and catching paedophiles. But is Derryn Hinch?

You must realise, we may have already caught Williams abductor if we had metadata recording,.

Imagine satellites that new exactly where you were, just by your voice frequency sssssh

1984 (Nineteen Eighty-Four) SA and crabby.

*For those who haven't yet read it the text can be found here: Project Gutenberg Australia

All long term WSers would be well aware of the concept of 'memory holes' in relation to our online sleuthing.

btw No implanted chip for me *adjusts tinfoil hat to jaunty new angle*

 

[bearbear]

I was listening to Triple J's Hack program last week. A couple were speaking about human electronic body chips. They both had them in their palms, and used them to unlock their front door and their car doors. They were saying that more and more people are getting them. They even suggested using them for 'paywave' payments.

Something like this may be good for tracking unsavoury persons who are (according to all I have read) likely to reoffend.

There is some info here about them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microchip_implant_(human)
http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/...ive-got-you-under-my-skin-20140416-zqvho.html

i was just thinking of this but it would have to be placed somewhere it couldnt be cut out easily
but just for paedophiles,
not for the general population