Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #27

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I think that that is relevant to the family dynamics. A three year old grandson who had never visited his grandmothers home until the day that he disappeared?

i would hate to think so...

Potentially is the operative word here.

Even if that were true, which it is not, what's to say William's foster grandmother (and grandfather, while he was alive) didn't visit William where he and his foster parents resided?
 
  • #502
I haven't followed this case closely but I always assumed the kids hadn't been there before because they hadn't been in foster care or with those foster parents for long. I don't know if that's right or not tho.
 
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M: Yeah we’d actually planned to go on the Friday, but we ended up the Thursday, leaving earlier, and it was a surprise for Mum and it was a surprise for the kids to go before, because they love going to Nanna’s, yeah it was a complete surprise.

. . .

M: I took the photo, I took three photos, I do photo books, of what we do as a family every year. So every time we go somewhere I have my camera and I just take pictures of what they’re doing, and I thought Mum’s getting old, be really good for William and his sister to have memories of being at Mum’s. And my Dad passed away in February that year so that was really the first time we’d been back since Dad passed away, and we were going to go visit Dad’s grave, they were drawing some pictures to put on his grave, they were sending messages to Opa and things like that. I just thought, I want to just take some pictures of that.


http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...full-transcript-from-william-tyrrells-parents
IN THEIR WORDS: William Tyrrell's parents talk of the day their boy went missing and the 'living nightmare' they endure

Excellent, JLZ. I think that pretty much says it all.
 
  • #504
M: Yeah we’d actually planned to go on the Friday, but we ended up the Thursday, leaving earlier, and it was a surprise for Mum and it was a surprise for the kids to go before, because they love going to Nanna’s, yeah it was a complete surprise.

. . .

M: I took the photo, I took three photos, I do photo books, of what we do as a family every year. So every time we go somewhere I have my camera and I just take pictures of what they’re doing, and I thought Mum’s getting old, be really good for William and his sister to have memories of being at Mum’s. And my Dad passed away in February that year so that was really the first time we’d been back since Dad passed away, and we were going to go visit Dad’s grave, they were drawing some pictures to put on his grave, they were sending messages to Opa and things like that. I just thought, I want to just take some pictures of that.


http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...full-transcript-from-william-tyrrells-parents
IN THEIR WORDS: William Tyrrell's parents talk of the day their boy went missing and the 'living nightmare' they endure

Excellent, JLZ. I think that pretty much says it all.

No it doesn't. This does:

(17:13) Reporter:​

'We saw the statement put out by the foster family and you're obviously in regular touch with them. How are they doing three years on?'

(17:20) DCI Gary Jubelin:

'Look, I've got nothing but admiration for them, the way that they're handling this situation. I don't think — it's basically a living nightmare. This unresolved grief that they've got. It's difficult for them to get on with life. They're decent people and they're suffering; as you would imagine. I think anyone with an ounce of empathy would understand what they're going through [...]'

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/en...-disappearance-of-William-Tyrrell-(continued)
 
  • #505
No it doesn't. This does:

(17:13) Reporter:

'We saw the statement put out by the foster family and you're obviously in regular touch with them. How are they doing three years on?'

(17:20) DCI Gary Jubelin:

'Look, I've got nothing but admiration for them, the way that they're handling this situation. I don't think — it's basically a living nightmare. This unresolved grief that they've got. It's difficult for them to get on with life. They're decent people and they're suffering; as you would imagine. I think anyone with an ounce of empathy would understand what they're going through [...]'

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/en...-disappearance-of-William-Tyrrell-(continued)

Yes, that too.
 
  • #506
Yes, that too.

I just put my grandson to bed. He is three months older than William. As I was reading a book to him and rubbing his back to settle him down after a day of school, swimming (and a bit of iPad time from Nan - shhh!), I thought about the heartache William's foster grandmother must feel not to be able to do the same for William. She must be devastated.
 
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So why the big thing about having to take the little girl inside to the toilet, if she knew the way to the toilet because she and WT had been there numerous times before?
 
  • #509
If as it's stated william was with his foster parents since 7to 8 months old until his disappearance. They would have been in his eyes and rightfully so his parents. I don't think babies memories would go back that far . More than 2/3rds of his precious life with foster parents. THey have brought him up . Karlie was no child having a child . She was a grown women. She obviously at that time chose her lifestyle before William and his sister.
 
  • #510
So why the big thing about having to take the little girl inside to the toilet, if she knew the way to the toilet because she and WT had been there numerous times before?

It wasn't a big thing at all. Some kids need assistance in the toilet . My boy who is now almost a man required my assistance In the toilet till around 5 years of age, not because he couldn't do his business by himself , it was more a wiping issue ., I totally understand them taking hire to the toilet
 
  • #511
So why the big thing about having to take the little girl inside to the toilet, if she knew the way to the toilet because she and WT had been there numerous times before?

So what are you trying to say
 
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If as it's stated william was with his foster parents since 7to 8 months old until his disappearance. They would have been in his eyes and rightfully so his parents. I don't think babies memories would go back that far . More than 2/3rds of his precious life with foster parents. THey have brought him up . Karlie was no child having a child . She was a grown women. She obviously at that time chose her lifestyle before William and his sister.

By legal definition WT & his sister are Foster children. A foster parent has no legal claim to a foster child. As a foster parent you foster a child or children on the understanding someday you might have to return them. The children right now belong to the State.
As far as KT is concerned i think it is unfair to bash her when you don't really know the circumstances. WT & his sister are also very much loved by his biological family too from what we have read in msm.
 
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By legal definition WT & his sister are Foster children. A foster parent has no legal claim to a foster child. As a foster parent you foster a child or children on the understanding someday you might have to return them. The children right now belong to the State.
As far as KT is concerned i think it is unfair to bash her when you don't really know the circumstances. WT & his sister are also very much loved by his biological family too from what we have read in msm.
Fully aware of that, yjanks for your input. Didn't bash bio mother.
 
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Some recent tv segments now uploaded to my YouTube channel:

https://youtu.be/yJrMWrBcLUE
Tyrrell Foster Revelation: A Current Affair_Aug 24, 2017

https://youtu.be/SgO5P1V5w9Y
Fighting for William - Allana Smith: A Current Affair_Aug 29, 2017

https://youtu.be/yqPbDKifQzE
William Tyrrell Mystery - three years ago: A Current Affair_Sept 12, 2017

https://youtu.be/v2JoQlll9AE
William Tyrrell - Police Presser (3 yr anniversary)_Sept 12, 2017

Thanks Richie. You're a :star:
 
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I haven't followed this case closely but I always assumed the kids hadn't been there before because they hadn't been in foster care or with those foster parents for long. I don't know if that's right or not tho.

WILLIAM TYRRELL’S FOSTER HOME INTENDED TO BE PERMANENT
AMY HARRIS, The Sunday Telegraph
August 27, 2017 12:00am

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...t/news-story/1f79e414e57cde0d1cfae86cab96115e

'WHEN an eight-month-old William Tyrrell arrived at the home of his new foster parents, it was an arrangement that was always intended to be permanent.

The baby boy had been removed from his biological parents — both of whom had encountered problems with police — and placed in the care of foster parents.

His biological father was a career criminal who had spent most of William’s short life incarcerated.

It is understood his biological father and mother, Karlie, whose name was released this week after a ruling in the NSW Supreme Court, have been linked to domestic violence-related incidents.

However, these occurred after William had been removed from their care and there is no suggestion either were ever violent towards him.

'It is understood William’s foster agreement with his new parents in Sydney’s northern suburbs was intended to be a permanent arrangement.

His biological mother was aware of the intention.

Before his disappearance in September 2014, William did have supervised visits with his mother, contrary to some media reports.

However it’s understood these visits were infrequent and that William identified his foster family as his parents and was known to the public by their surname (which can’t be disclosed) and not "Tyrrell".'

'We will never stop looking for you': William Tyrrell's foster parents cling to hope he'll be found

Source: AAP - SBS Wires
12 SEP - 6:48 AM UPDATED 12 SEP - 10:25 AM

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/...am-tyrrells-foster-parents-cling-hope-hell-be

'William's in-care status was only made public last month after the NSW Department of Family and Community Services lost a legal bid to stop an advocacy group using the information in pushes for a coronial inquest.

Senior police insist the investigation is "very much ongoing" and a $1 million reward for information leading to his return remains on offer.

Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin, who leads the homicide investigation, will speak publicly about the case on Tuesday after last month reiterating his defence of the foster family, saying they'd provided "a loving home" for William.

The identity of William's biological parents, Karlie Tyrrell and Brendan Collins, was revealed only after the recent case - where the Court of Appeal upheld a Supreme Court ruling citing public interest and the need for scrutiny of the out-of-home care system in allowing more to be publicly known.

Those court documents paint a picture of the life of a boy who was given a fresh start after being removed from the care of his biological mother as a seven-month-old.

There were concerns about domestic violence and drug use in the home and William, the second-eldest of four children, was placed with a Sydney family.

He was reunited with his older sister a week later and the pair settled into their new family after the Children's Court found there was no "realistic" possibility of them returning to their birth mother.'
 
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