Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #27

[deugirtni]

'spiritualdreaming':

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...m-Tyrrell-3-Kendall-NSW-12-Sept-2014-13/page5

I had trouble finding this post that was mentioned above, because I have my settings set differently, so for me, it was on a completely different page. I'm posting a link to one of a few posts in regard to that abandoned house/property. It seems this property is the one where noises were heard coming from, however members seemed to discount it because it wasn't on Benaroon? There are a few posts before and after this one. Does anyone know where this sign would be located?

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...l-NSW-12-Sept-2014-13&p=11883460#post11883460

 

[Bohemian]

I had trouble finding this post that was mentioned above, because I have my settings set differently, so for me, it was on a completely different page. I'm posting a link to one of a few posts in regard to that abandoned house/property. It seems this property is the one where noises were heard coming from, however members seemed to discount it because it wasn't on Benaroon? There are a few posts before and after this one. Does anyone know where this sign would be located?

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...l-NSW-12-Sept-2014-13&p=11883460#post11883460

It was a link to one of the threads where the house had been discussed.

Anyway, here is the post from 'spiritualdreaming' about the house on 26/5/2015:

'I just spoke to a local re the noises and it wasn't in Benaroon Drive, here is a pic of the house where noises were heard.'​

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...l-NSW-12-Sept-2014-13&p=11883096#post11883096

 

[deugirtni]

It was a link to one of the threads where the house had been discussed.

Anyway, here is the post from 'spiritualdreaming' about the house on 26/5/2015:

'I just spoke to a local re the noises and it wasn't in Benaroon Drive, here is a pic of the house where noises were heard.'​

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...l-NSW-12-Sept-2014-13&p=11883096#post11883096

Yes, thanks. I did find that, and then went a bit further on to where spiritualdreaming went on to say where exactly that house is located... just wondering if anyone knows where that sign is located, because apparently the house is right next to it?

 

[Bohemian]

Just taking a look at a Google map of the terrain surrounding Kendall. If an opportunistic abductor didn't want to be seen with a child in a Spider-Man suit in their car, and presuming they knew the area/roads/fire/4WD trails like the back of their hand, which would be the 'road less travelled'?

East, through populated areas such as Kendall and or Kew?

West toward Comboyne?

North toward Wauchope?

South toward Coopernook?

Which route/destination would be most 'efficient and effective'?

https://www.google.com.au/maps/plac...m2!3m1!1s0x6b75e451b525966f:0xd9cf83b93c77a70

We know about the alleged links with Dunbogan, Bonny Hills, Lake Cathie and Wauchope and the reported search sites, such as Middle Brother, but what about possible links between Benaroon Drive and other locations say, within an approx 20 mins/kms radius?

 

[Bohemian]

Yes, thanks. I did find that, and then went a bit further on to where spiritualdreaming went on to say where exactly that house is located... just wondering if anyone knows where that sign is located, because apparently the house is right next to it?

I don't know. Maybe do a 3D Google map search of the nearest intersection(s) to its location to see if you can spot it.

 

[Bohemian]

btw I wrote a transcript of DCI Jubelin's latest presser, including journalists' questions and his replies, yesterday. Does anyone think it would be useful to type it into a blog post? If so, do you want a transcript of the entire presser or just the question and answer segment?

 

[Bohemian]

I had trouble finding this post that was mentioned above, because I have my settings set differently, so for me, it was on a completely different page. I'm posting a link to one of a few posts in regard to that abandoned house/property. It seems this property is the one where noises were heard coming from, however members seemed to discount it because it wasn't on Benaroon? There are a few posts before and after this one. Does anyone know where this sign would be located?

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...l-NSW-12-Sept-2014-13&p=11883460#post11883460

Cnr Batar Creek & Stoney Creek Rds, Batar Creek. I think the house is at 4 o'clock from the red pin.

https://www.google.com.au/maps/plac...2!3m1!1s0x6b75e5cd1eaf4435:0x2e6c9226ada89b5e

 

[iailwa]

Personally, I don't know why he would be? From what I have read, he had a wife living also at the home. I am wondering if it is perhaps his wife who is referred to as the wife who left the street just before the time WT was said to have disappeared? I know it was discussed who this was a long time ago, and the W family was wondered about, but both Mr. and Mrs. W were said to have been gone long prior to WT's disappearance. Although since PS did speak to the media with his name used, I'm not sure why he wouldn't have been named in this instance as well? It seems that PS's wife has since died. Link below. Sad. I so hope that witnesses are not starting to die off, whose testimony may end up being valuable at a later time. Strange that there were actually so many on the street who seem to recall before and after, one left one minute before, one arrived onto the street just after, etc. One unloading groceries. One sitting in silence reading. Nobody heard or saw a thing.


http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/william-t...-false-hope-12-months-on-20150903-gjenjz.html

http://tributes.bellingencourier.co...au/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=185188613

I only wondered about people in the street because basically nobody heard anything. Long shot I know, but it would not be the first time someone came forward, gave their name, helped with the search, etc... Ian Huntley & Andrew Garforth come to mind. In no way suggesting this man had anything to do with it - but am curious whether any people living in the street are POIs. Guess we may never know...

 

[SouthAussie]

btw I wrote a transcript of DCI Jubelin's latest presser, including journalists' questions and his replies, yesterday. Does anyone think it would be useful to type it into a blog post? If so, do you want a transcript of the entire presser or just the question and answer segment?

That is fabulous, Bohemian ... and a lot of work! :tyou:

I would love to read the whole thing if you blog it.

 

[iailwa]

Just taking a look at a Google map of the terrain surrounding Kendall. If an opportunistic abductor didn't want to be seen with a child in a Spider-Man suit in their car, and presuming they knew the area/roads/fire/4WD trails like the back of their hand, which would be the 'road less travelled'?

East, through populated areas such as Kendall and or Kew?

West toward Comboyne?

North toward Wauchope?

South toward Coopernook?

Which route/destination would be most 'efficient and effective'?

https://www.google.com.au/maps/plac...m2!3m1!1s0x6b75e451b525966f:0xd9cf83b93c77a70

We know about the alleged links with Dunbogan, Bonny Hills, Lake Cathie and Wauchope and the reported search sites, such as Middle Brother, but what about possible links between Benaroon Drive and other locations say, within an approx 20 mins/kms radius?

I have seen that if you turn right out of William's street and keep going for several kms along batar creek Rd, there is a left turn that takes you to the quiet Rd where the 'Jesus saves William tyrell' sign is left. So my guess (very guessy!) is south, IMO

 

[SouthAussie]

Just taking a look at a Google map of the terrain surrounding Kendall. If an opportunistic abductor didn't want to be seen with a child in a Spider-Man suit in their car, and presuming they knew the area/roads/fire/4WD trails like the back of their hand, which would be the 'road less travelled'?

We know about the alleged links with Dunbogan, Bonny Hills, Lake Cathie and Wauchope and the reported search sites, such as Middle Brother, but what about possible links between Benaroon Drive and other locations say, within an approx 20 mins/kms radius?

RSBM

I think they have searched much more than we will ever know. We know of Middle Brother forest, Kendall forest, Queens Lake Conservation Area. But I recall reading a long time ago that they were doing searches of other undisclosed forest locations, too.

 

[iailwa]

btw I wrote a transcript of DCI Jubelin's latest presser, including journalists' questions and his replies, yesterday. Does anyone think it would be useful to type it into a blog post? If so, do you want a transcript of the entire presser or just the question and answer segment?

It would be a fantastic blog. unreal! anyway you see fit being the author...

 

[bearbear]

I wonder if this guy PS is on the POI list?

yes, either of them, the wilsons property is directly along the back/ side of gmas, i think both men were home, mrs wilson was the neighbour who went out just before it happened and she had heard the children playing, unsure if mr w was home?

 

[iailwa]

https://www.google.com.au/maps/dir/...60c204b4f!2m2!1d152.6938359!2d-31.6406044!1m0

 

[sosocurious]

Around the corner from Benaroon Drive, a young mum hovers over her daughter, almost three. She never leaves her side. The mother works in Port Macquarie, but she and her partner moved here to be closer to her partner’s son, who was living with his mother across the street from William’s grandmother’s house when the boy vanished.

Which across the street house?

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...d/news-story/2d8aa4bde6c83ded451c26090fb55643
William Tyrrell: fear in Kendall where little boy disappeared

 

[iailwa]

https://www.google.com.au/maps/dir/Benaroon+Dr,+Kendall+NSW+2439/-31.6950833,152.65555/@-31.6689668,152.5868622,12z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m8!4m7!1m5!1m1!1s0x6b75e451b77df6d9:0xf45400a60c204b4f!2m2!1d152.6938359!2d-31.6406044!1m0

edited to add the link but it doesn't work. Link is 2 posts up


Above is the link from Benadoon drive down batar creek Rd, to the Jesus saves William tyrell stump. There's an early left hand short cut. Btw I had to go into chrome but then I wasn't able to write anything - only post the link. Anyway, I'm not saying this is the route the villain took that day, but it's possible he/she was revisiting In some way the day the message was left... all guess work

 

[iailwa]

Around the corner from Benaroon Drive, a young mum hovers over her daughter, almost three. She never leaves her side. The mother works in Port Macquarie, but she and her partner moved here to be closer to her partner’s son, who was living with his mother across the street from William’s grandmother’s house when the boy vanished.

Which across the street house?

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...d/news-story/2d8aa4bde6c83ded451c26090fb55643
William Tyrrell: fear in Kendall where little boy disappeared

I wonder why they needed to relocate to be near him? Perhaps he's young. If not, it's a bit odd...

 

[JLZ]

I wonder why they needed to relocate to be near him? Perhaps he's young. If not, it's a bit odd...

Why do you think it's odd? I mean, it might be a sign that the child is problematic and needs extra supervision, if that's where you're going, but in that case I doubt she'd be mentioning the child to the reporter. Otherwise, it's not strange that a father wants to live near his son? Or do you think it suggests something odd about the father, that he's keeping on watch on his former partner?

Without sleuthing any particular children, does anyone think this could be the crime of a child, concealed by adults?

 

[iailwa]

Why do you think it's odd? I mean, it might be a sign that the child is problematic and needs extra supervision, if that's where you're going, but in that case I doubt she'd be mentioning the child to the reporter. Otherwise, it's not strange that a father wants to live near his son? Or do you think it suggests something odd about the father, that he's keeping on watch on his former partner?

Without sleuthing any particular children, does anyone think this could be the crime of a child, concealed by adults?

I mean it's odd to me that if he's an adult living with his mother, why would his dad and mother in law feel the need to move near him, unless living with his mother is long term, which is odd in itself if he's an adult. Granted, there's the odd son everyone wants to be near, but I don't know too many just thinking about it.

And yes it could be a crime committed by a child (& concealed by an adult) imo

 

[JLZ]

Around the corner from Benaroon Drive, a young mum hovers over her daughter, almost three. She never leaves her side. The mother works in Port Macquarie, but she and her partner moved here to be closer to her partner’s son, who was living with his mother across the street from William’s grandmother’s house when the boy vanished.

Which across the street house?

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...d/news-story/2d8aa4bde6c83ded451c26090fb55643
William Tyrrell: fear in Kendall where little boy disappeared

Thanks for the link, Soso, I don't think I'd read that article before. Picking out a couple of things, it places William's sister in the yard with William just after the mother went inside:

William’s mother heard her son making tiger growls, trying to scare his sister.

Also, this:

Back at the Kendall Sports Ground, a local dad tells you a story about a chat he had with a local cop friend. The fear, said this cop, was that potential pedophiles in these towns on the mid-north coast acted as out-of-town scouts for other out-of-town scouts. A network develops where, the dad says, “they don’t **** in their own back yard”.

Just repasting the link:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...d/news-story/2d8aa4bde6c83ded451c26090fb55643
William Tyrrell: fear in Kendall where little boy disappeared