Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #28

[Karinna]

Bill Spedding was told the washing machine needed to be fixed because the family is coming to visit.

Hey Tony those kids that Ms Loweke knows from Natalie, well they are coming to visit this weekend & I need to fix the machine. I told Marg as well......
IMO everyone knew.


“Ms Loweke is living with Mr Jones’ brother-in-law and she personally knows Bill Spedding”

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/n...t/news-story/295f4d26d06a4b543a3eec6d9d2f8953

Sorry, but I find that scenario is so far fetched. I don't know bout any of you, but I don't have a personal relationship with anyone who came and fixed things at my house years ago. MOO

No i don't either, they just do what they have to do and leave if it's a repair person. I don't know if the FGM knew him or not on a more personal level?
I think Spedding is by now not an issue, because they turned the place he was living into a crime scene practically, and went over everything with a fine tooth comb. His vehicle etc. and whatever LE took from the property was forensically tested and nothing so far. If they found any trace of WT having been in his presence he would of been arrested & charged, and investigated further from there.

 

[Bohemian]

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/pa...d/news-story/1a73063218a15527c703ad7d2136710e
She lists a number of things she says they have failed to investigate, and says the case has been marred by “lies and bulls**t”.

I agree with NC's summation of the case. Good luck to the rest of you sleuthers, hope you crack it.

If NC has information that leads to William’s recovery, there is a $1M reward up for grabs from the NSW State Government. Alternatively, she can email Wikileaks.

Thanks for the good luck x

 

[they'll get you]

Natalie believes William is dead. Period. Natalie has been saying peculiar things and reacting in a strange manner

"That information might be in the form of someone that has concerns about someone they know. Someone within their family [and] the way they react when William Tyrrell's name is mentioned."

Whereas....

William's foster parents said they would never give up looking for him, three years on from his disappearance.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-...rrell-still-missing-after-three-years/8893910

JMHO.




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[Bohemian]

*sips tea*

 

[sosocurious]

Sorry, but I find that scenario is so far fetched. I don't know bout any of you, but I don't have a personal relationship with anyone who came and fixed things at my house years ago. MOO

KL use to just give Bill a call to fix her machine if the spinner needed repairing.

 

[Karinna]

Natalie believes William is dead. Period. Natalie has been saying peculiar things and reacting in a strange manner

"That information might be in the form of someone that has concerns about someone they know. Someone within their family [and] the way they react when William Tyrrell's name is mentioned."

Whereas....

William's foster parents said they would never give up looking for him, three years on from his disappearance.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-...rrell-still-missing-after-three-years/8893910

JMHO.




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Perhaps she believes after 3+ years that William is deceased, because what really are the chances of him still being alive after all this time in such a high profile case? Slim to none i would think? I think LE have stated themselves he is more than likely deceased? I don't think people keep a kidnapped 3 year old usually, when police & the public are on high alert in trying to find the child, it would be far too risky and not usually a perps. MO. Unless someone that took him to love & care for him, which would be the best outcome, but i don't think so.
So the odds aren't really good IMO.

 

[butterstick]

It's good WT hit the headlines again, except it was messy and not for the right reasons.

If the bio mum is now in a stable place, and was indeed in regular contact with WT, it bothers me a little that she wouldn't want to speak up for him. To remind us.

And it might now be too late, but the foster parents could help us with more context of their movements that day. The vibe from GM is that it was planned, but if that is true then the movements of the foster family would be essential details. Being able to place them, and know them, maybe see security footage of them stopping for McDonalds, allow the general public to potentially link things together.

It would take bravery from the bio or fosters. It would be disruptive to their lives, and WTs sister would undoubtably be exposed in a way that his brothers are right now after images were published of them and bio mum ......

... But the point is, William needs SOMEONE to be calling for him. Brave enough to put their face to the call.

 

[Karinna]

I gather there has never been any further mention of the odd vehicles parked across the street noted by the FM? Wonder if the police ever found out who they belonged to, and why they were parked there?

 

[they'll get you]

KL use to just give Bill a call to fix her machine if the spinner needed repairing.

AND MS grandson knows KL.

AND NC’s bestie Ms Loweke is living with Mr Jones’ brother-in-law and she PERSONALLY knows Bill Spedding.

What spider spun this web..

Does anyone understand my reasons or am I going nuts here.


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[Karinna]

It's good WT hit the headlines again, except it was messy and not for the right reasons.

If the bio mum is now in a stable place, and was indeed in regular contact with WT, it bothers me a little that she wouldn't want to speak up for him. To remind us.

And it might now be too late, but the foster parents could help us with more context of their movements that day. The vibe from GM is that it was planned, but if that is true then the movements of the foster family would be essential details. Being able to place them, and know them, maybe see security footage of them stopping for McDonalds, allow the general public to potentially link things together.

It would take bravery from the bio or fosters. It would be disruptive to their lives, and WTs sister would undoubtably be exposed in a way that his brothers are right now after images were published of them and bio mum ......

... But the point is, William needs SOMEONE to be calling for him. Brave enough to put their face to the call.

I think the KT is still under a gag order and can't speak up about any of it? Probably why she said she doesn't want to. If she is still going through legal avenues in regard to restoration, that could be another factor for her silence? Doesn't want to jeopardise the case?

 

[sosocurious]

AND MS grandson knows KL.

AND NC’s bestie Ms Loweke is living with Mr Jones’ brother-in-law and she PERSONALLY knows Bill Spedding.

What spider spun this web..

Does anyone understand my reasons or am I going nuts here.


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No I don't fink you are going nuts..

 

[Karinna]

AND MS grandson knows KL.

AND NC’s bestie Ms Loweke is living with Mr Jones’ brother-in-law and she PERSONALLY knows Bill Spedding.

What spider spun this web..

Does anyone understand my reasons or am I going nuts here.


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I'm not really sure how all of that ties into WT's case though, as i'm sure LE have investigated these people, especially seeing as one of them is in jail. They have probably questioned him?

 

[they'll get you]

I gather there has never been any further mention of the odd vehicles parked across the street noted by the FM? Wonder if the police ever found out who they belonged to, and why they were parked there?

Why would LE be interested in the bioGM’s friends car? WHY?

Ms Loweke said detectives were interested in her silver Holden VX Commodore, which was similar in colour to the one seen parked outside nearby the morning of the disappearance.

Tony Jones’ car was seized for forensic examination and he was questioned by police. He said he was collecting scrap metal at the time William disappeared.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/n...t/news-story/295f4d26d06a4b543a3eec6d9d2f8953


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[sosocurious]

Why would LE be interested in the bioGM’s friends car? WHY?

Ms Loweke said detectives were interested in her silver Holden VX Commodore, which was similar in colour to the one seen parked outside nearby the morning of the disappearance.

Tony Jones’ car was seized for forensic examination and he was questioned by police. He said he was collecting scrap metal at the time William disappeared.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/n...t/news-story/295f4d26d06a4b543a3eec6d9d2f8953


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They took side on photos' of her car.

 

[Karinna]

(quote)
Spotlight falls on two ‘persons of interest’ in William Tyrrell case

THEY are two convicted paedophiles who say they have nothing to do with William Tyrrell, the little boy at the centre of the abduction case that has baffled police.

Attention has once again fallen on Tony Jones and Paul Bickford after Sydney’s The Daily Telegraph revealed the two men may have met each other on the same day William went missing.

They have both already been questioned by police who are hunting whoever is responsible for taking William from his grandmother’s home in Kendall, on the NSW north coast on September 12, 2014.

Police will only say the matter is an ongoing investigation and they have spoken to hundreds of people as part of their inquiries.

The men themselves say they have nothing to hide. But what do we know about them?
http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw...e/news-story/296fcd4a5fe9bc0c86269d8f37e9ace4

 

[bearbear]

i can see a scenario where bs mentions to his wife or friends that the children will be coming up and gma needs the machine fixed, someone may have overheard?
he may know f/gma or could have been friends with her late husband?
they have a fostering connection in common
im still on the fence with what happened to william and just wondering if the public are being fed a huge lie

 

[they'll get you]

No I don't fink you are going nuts..

Fanks hon.




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[SouthAussie]

I don't think Spedding is out of this mix at all.
He is the only person who was scheduled to be at that house.
He had the washing machine part.
The job completion was desired by grandma before the family arrived - she thought that would be later on Friday.

I think he arrived, took William (such a nice, friendly man), and little William has been laying in the forest for 3½ years.
I think he acted alone.

I think he hurt those little girls, and others, years ago. I don't believe he has ever stopped hurting little children, other than perhaps periodically. I think his crimes escalated.

The sex crimes squad was called in after 3 days of searching for William. While the searches were ongoing.
I have been looking everywhere for the article that states that 2 police officers looked at each other on the day that William disappeared - they suspected child sex abduction - went back to the station and 2 other police officers agreed with them (something like that).

I think Spedding is being caught up in his historical crime trials because the police are going to make sure he pays for something. Make sure that they know where he is at all times. Make sure he can hurt no others. Until they can find William, or until Margaret Spedding decides to help them. (Very similar to what they did with John Chardon.)

I think they have evidence against Spedding for William's disappearance, just not enough to satisfy the prosecutor ... yet.

That is why no-one else, none of these local named and unnamed crims who get caught over and over for their crimes, who are regulars in court, have not been pinned for this. Because they didn't do it.

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[sosocurious]

I dont think Spedding is out of this mix at all.
He is the only person who was scheduled to be at that house.
He had the washing machine part.
The job completion was desired by grandma before the family arrived - she thought later on Friday.

I think he arrived, took William (such a nice, friendly man), and little William has been laying in the forest for 3½ years.
I think he acted alone.

I think he hurt those little girls, and others, years ago. I don't believe he has ever stopped hurting little children, other than perhaps periodically. I think his crimes escalated.

The sex crimes squad was called in after 3 days of searching for William. While the searches were ongoing.
I have been looking everywhere for the article that states that 2 police officers looked at each other on the day that William disappeared - they suspected child sex abduction - went back to the station and 2 other police officers agreed with them.

I think Spedding is being caught up in his historical crime trials because the police are going to make sure he pays for something. Make sure that they know where he is at all times. Make sure he can hurt no others. Until they can find William, or until Margaret Spedding decides to help them.

I think they have evidence against Spedding for William's disappearance, just not enough to satisfy the prosecutor ... yet.

That is why no-one else, none of these local named and unnamed crims who get caught over and over for their crimes, who are regulars in court, have not been pinned for this. Because they didn't do it.

Is this it SA?

At 2.35pm detectives are dispatched from Port Macquarie and begin taking statements. One of them speaks to a colleague, Detective Senior Constable Vanessa Partridge, back at Port Macquarie late that afternoon; they are worried something more sinister may have taken place. Partridge arrives very early the next day, and already there are people out on horseback, on bicycle, on foot, searching for William. His dad is out there with them, and will be for days, thinking, “Surely if he is out here in the bush he’ll be found?”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...sh-into-thin-air/story-e6frg6z6-1227308929078
How could toddler William Tyrrell simply vanish into thin air?

 

[SouthAussie]

Is this it SA?

At 2.35pm detectives are dispatched from Port Macquarie and begin taking statements. One of them speaks to a colleague, Detective Senior Constable Vanessa Partridge, back at Port Macquarie late that afternoon; they are worried something more sinister may have taken place. Partridge arrives very early the next day, and already there are people out on *horseback, on bicycle, on foot, searching for *William. His dad is out there with them, and will be for days, thinking, “Surely if he is out here in the bush he’ll be found?”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...sh-into-thin-air/story-e6frg6z6-1227308929078
How could toddler William Tyrrell simply vanish into thin air?

Yes, I think it could be. Thank you, soso. :loveyou:

The police officer who was worried went right to the top of their local station with their concerns.

I think the police were pretty on top of this right from the get-go. But they abandoned nothing, no lines of inquiry at all. Just in case.
They didn't search those local homes a kazillion times for no reason. Or call in the sex crimes squad so early for no reason. Or rip all of Spedding's property apart for no reason.