Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #28

[Angeline]

Hi guys, I haven't 100% caught up on all the posts since the latest news article, but from what I have read you have some interesting observations.

I must say, after learning that William's bio parents had "hidden out" with him before, I can't stop thinking about the fact that the FPs left for Kendall a day early.

Was it really just a "surprise" or were they urgently trying to get the kids out of the area?

 

[Angeline]

Another (far fetched) thought: Could the media have been prompted by the police to interview NC? The police and media have had such a strategic relationship throughout this case.

 

[Bohemian]

Children are amazingly resilient (and fairly self-focussed, usually). Young children lose brothers and sisters through death. They still go on and be children.
It is the parents that I believe need to make sure they are as balanced as possible, so that William's sister is able to continue to flourish and be a child.

Though - additionally - William's sister has had more than this sad event that could also psychologically affect her on a more permanent and/or ongoing basis, that's for sure.

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https://www.complextrauma.ca/wp-content/uploads/T3-Complex-Trauma-in-Children-and-Adolescents.pdf

 

[Bohemian]

Another (far fetched) thought: Could the media have been prompted by the police to interview NC? The police and media have had such a strategic relationship throughout this case.

I’m not sure. My opinion FWIW is that NC’s news.com.au article was prompted by the prior DM article about BC’s failure to appear in court. I suspect there is more than one (mutually beneficial) ‘strategic relationship’ between ‘the media’ and certain individuals and/or ‘organisations’, other than with NSWPOL.

 

[SouthAussie]

https://www.complextrauma.ca/wp-content/uploads/T3-Complex-Trauma-in-Children-and-Adolescents.pdf

Thanks, Bohemian. My post was really coming from my own personal experiences though. Not all children are affected the same way, and many of them are amazingly resilient ... if love and care and balanced parents can be their guide. I hope this is the case for William's sister.

 

[Bohemian]

Thanks, Bohemian. My post was really coming from my own personal experiences though. Not all children are affected the same way, and many of them are amazingly resilient ... if love and care and balanced parents can be their guide. I hope this is the case for William's sister.

My reply wasn’t a criticism. It was also coming from my own personal experiences and I agree regarding the remedy.

That’s my hope for ‘Sarah’ too.

 

[SouthAussie]

Hi guys, I haven't 100% caught up on all the posts since the latest news article, but from what I have read you have some interesting observations.

I must say, after learning that William's bio parents had "hidden out" with him before, I can't stop thinking about the fact that the FPs left for Kendall a day early.

Was it really just a "surprise" or were they urgently trying to get the kids out of the area?

One thing that keeps jumping out at me about this crew of people, is that with every word they say .. they don't seem to be too smart.

When William was apparently (according to Natalie) hidden out for a while, was it William that was being hidden or Brendan being hidden from an impending arrest for criminal activity? And were they located by the authorities, or did they reveal themselves at some point in time?

With this massive police investigation, and the repetitive arrests for other matters of this whole crew, I can't help but think that they are not smarter than the police.

 

[sosocurious]

One thing that keeps jumping out at me about this crew of people, is that with every word they say .. they don't seem to be too smart.

When William was apparently (according to Natalie) hidden out for a while, was it William that was being hidden or Brendan being hidden from an impending arrest for criminal activity? And were they located by the authorities, or did they reveal themselves at some point in time?

With this massive police investigation, and the repetitive arrests for other matters of this whole crew, I can't help but think that they are not smarter than the police.

Yes the statement "I gave them the bond to hide for 3 months"....odd.
Why only for 3 months?

 

[JLZ]

Yes the statement "I gave them the bond to hide for 3 months"....odd.
Why only for 3 months?

Perhaps the hiding was to be long-term but she was lending them the money for only 3 months. As in, they said they'd be in a position to pay it back after that time. That's not the natural interpretation of her words I agree.

 

[Bohemian]

Yes the statement "I gave them the bond to hide for 3 months"....odd.
Why only for 3 months?

Perhaps the hiding was to be long-term but she was lending them the money for only 3 months. As in, they said they'd be in a position to pay it back after that time. That's not the natural interpretation of her words I agree.

Maybe they simply came to the attention of authorities after 3 months.

 

[sosocurious]

Perhaps the hiding was to be long-term but she was lending them the money for only 3 months. As in, they said they'd be in a position to pay it back after that time. That's not the natural interpretation of her words I agree.

Yes but the whole hiding for any length of time has me wondering.
There was another child in care....I still ask where? Or more to the point with whom?
Was it a kin ship care arrangement?
Had there been contact visit with Williams sister?
imo

 

[Bohemian]

Yes but the whole hiding for any length of time has me wondering.
There was another child in care....I still ask where? Or more to the point with whom?
Was it a kin ship care arrangement?
Had there been contact visit with Williams sister?
imo

That’s always been my problem with the theory of a planned, targeted abduction. Why only take William and not his biological sibling ‘Sarah’? Unless, of course, her impromptu visit to the toilet while in the middle of playing ‘chasings’ with William stymied her abduction.

After everything I’ve read about child abduction and the characteristics of the perpetrators of these crimes, I still can’t discount the notion that the person responsible was a non-relative who had a relationship with William.

 

[sosocurious]

Question
If your grandson was missing.
Why would you not believe police had interviewed you best friend? A recent best friend if msn has reported correctly.
From memory NC said something like - "again, once again someone else is involved."

The best friend you had applied for a house with.
Your best friend that new 2 of the poi. The best friend that was residing with the brother in law of one of those poi.
The best friend that had lived in the same town as 2 of those poi. Those 2 poi's that just happen to have kinship care of children.

Why wouldn't you want the police following every link, no matter who it involved?

If you have any information say something to the police straight away. Isn't that what foster dad said in that very first interview?
imo

 

[Bohemian]

Question
If your grandson was missing.
Why would you not believe police had interviewed you best friend? A recent best friend if msn has reported correctly.
From memory NC said something like - "again, once again someone else is involved."

The best friend you had applied for a house with.
Your best friend that new 2 of the poi. The best friend that was residing with the brother in law of one of those poi.
The best friend that had lived in the same town as 2 of those poi. Those 2 poi's that just happen to have kinship care of children.

Why wouldn't you want the police following every link, no matter who it involved?

If you have any information say something to the police straight away. Isn't that what foster dad said in that very first interview?
imo

Under those circumstances, a ‘friend’ such as this would be out of my life so fast you’d miss it if you blinked. The same goes for family.

ETA My next action would be to place a call to Crimestoppers.

 

[JLZ]

Question
If your grandson was missing.
Why would you not believe police had interviewed you best friend? A recent best friend if msn has reported correctly.
From memory NC said something like - "again, once again someone else is involved."

The best friend you had applied for a house with.
Your best friend that new 2 of the poi. The best friend that was residing with the brother in law of one of those poi.
The best friend that had lived in the same town as 2 of those poi. Those 2 poi's that just happen to have kinship care of children.

Why wouldn't you want the police following every link, no matter who it involved?

If you have any information say something to the police straight away. Isn't that what foster dad said in that very first interview?
imo

I think it's probable that police did talk to NC but not in the cosy sit-down-and-listen-to-my-agenda way she would have liked. Black clouds and clairvoyance, they cut her short? Whereas KL apparently received more attention, they did "sit down" and interview her. Not fair.

Could also be that NC knows what happened to William and it didn't involve KL, so from NC's self-absorbed perspective, that anyone should suspect KL makes no sense.

 

[Hbayne]

There is aunt to karlies boys with pictures of them together. Surname Collins aswell. No love seems lost between her and presumedly her mother NC

 

[sosocurious]

There is aunt to karlies boys with pictures of them together. Surname Collins aswell. No love seems lost between her and presumedly her mother NC

Oh a daughter or step daughter I wonder?
She does seem to have difficulty with the relationships with her children.
One spitting at her.
One calling her a s**t.
imo

 

[Bohemian]

There is aunt to karlies boys with pictures of them together. Surname Collins aswell. No love seems lost between her and presumedly her mother NC

Last I read, the same could be said about the relationship between Karlie and her ‘former MIL’, as evidenced by the covert blame directed Karlie’s way in NC’s ‘exclusive’ interview:

‘Brendan was working as a construction excavator in the western Sydney suburb of Granville at the time.

Living with his half brother Mitchell, he was not drinking alcohol or taking drugs.

Brendan and Karlie began having domestic disputes and police were called to the home. Mitchell soon moved out of the house.

In June 2011, William was born and the conflict between the pair continued.

Both Brendan and Karlie were ordered to participate in a domestic violence course and to not associate with each other.’

‘An order by the Department of Family and Community Services (FACS) to remove William from the couples care “wasn’t because Brendan was taking drugs or drinking, he wasn’t”, Natalie said.’

‘Natalie believes his friendship with Karlie is no longer viable.

He moved into Karlie’s spare room, while she had boyfriends visit the house.

“He was gone for four or five months. He was working but Karlie would go off with friends when he came home.’

“He was like a pound puppy with [her kids].’

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/pa...d/news-story/1a73063218a15527c703ad7d2136710e

 

[Karinna]

Oh a daughter or step daughter I wonder?
She does seem to have difficulty with the relationships with her children.
One spitting at her.
One calling her a s**t.
imo

Sounds like typical aussie bogans and they are everywhere lol. Yelling and cussing people out in their vehicle or on the street. They even have an australian t.v. show about them.

 

[Bohemian]

Sounds like typical aussie bogans and they are everywhere lol. Yelling and cussing people out in their vehicle or on the street. They even have an australian t.v. show about them.

Hey, I resent that implication I’m technically an Aussie bogan and I don’t yell and cuss people out in my vehicle or on the street. I do it in private, when I’m alone, whilst kicking the **** out of my heavy bag.