Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #28

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  • #641
AJ was sentenced to 3 years on the September 2015.
He got 3 years - 2 year non parole including his year in the clink he was due for release on the 26 September 2016.

He was said to be facing 5 rape charges. If he has only just been released recently...he only had to serve about 16 months.
Is that right?
:gaah:
 
  • #642
It just seems we are about to hear more about AJ. imo
Maybe from NC...:D

Oh and why would NC need to tell us that BC worked with an excavation company at Granville?
 
  • #643
The weed smoking party would have started hours ago.

I think I need some time out.
:sick:



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We all do at times. Highly recommend a day out with a grandie x
 
  • #644
It just seems we are about to hear more about AJ. imo
Maybe from NC...:D

Oh and why would NC need to tell us that BC worked with an excavation company at Granville?

Well, I highly suspect News Corp have shelled out to her ‘associates’ in the recent past. Maybe they will/have cough(ed) up a little more cash.

Hmm . . . I seem to remember there was another heavy earthmoving equipment company’s office listed as being in Benaroon Drive at some stage. . .
 
  • #645
  • #646
Maybe now that KT is publicly identified, she has people say disgusting things to her out in public. Before she was identified it has been reported that there have been no issues with her other children, so why now? Maybe she is an easy target to set up, by the media or others with an agenda, especially since she has been laying low and "co-operating" with establishment for the last few years. There is possibly a lot going on behind the scenes in court rooms etc., ...... but govt. departments and committed christians and the media don't ever play rough with people when things aren't going their way, do they?
 
  • #647
AJ was sentenced to 3 years on the September 2015.
He got 3 years - 2 year non parole including his year in the clink he was due for release on the 26 September 2016.

He was said to be facing 5 rape charges. If he has only just been released recently...he only had to serve about 16 months.
Is that right?
:gaah:

The Mail says "years".
For the rapes of this young girl? Or are they including prior incidents?


BBM
Convicted paedophile and person of interest in William Tyrrell investigation is released from jail after years behind bars for child sex offences
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5300937/William-Tyrrell-person-Tony-Jones-released.html
 
  • #648
Maybe now that KT is publicly identified, she has people say disgusting things to her out in public. Before she was identified it has been reported that there have been no issues with her other children, so why now? Maybe she is an easy target to set up, by the media or others with an agenda, especially since she has been laying low and "co-operating" with establishment for the last few years. There is possibly a lot going on behind the scenes in court rooms etc., ...... but govt. departments and committed christians and the media don't ever play rough with people when things aren't going their way, do they?

Spitting on the face of a police officer?
 
  • #649
Maybe now that KT is publicly identified, she has people say disgusting things to her out in public. Before she was identified it has been reported that there have been no issues with her other children, so why now? Maybe she is an easy target to set up, by the media or others with an agenda, especially since she has been laying low and "co-operating" with establishment for the last few years. There is possibly a lot going on behind the scenes in court rooms etc., ...... but govt. departments and committed christians and the media don't ever play rough with people when things aren't going their way, do they?

Date of orders; 23 January 2017
Decision date: 23 January 2017

The other two siblings, who are younger than Julian, remain in their mother’s care, and there are apparently no current child protection concerns in respect of them.
https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/58853ecfe4b058596cba36a9

August 28, 2017
Ms Collins said her son had been released from jail in March while William’s mother no longer spoke to her.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/n...s/news-story/2674faf90531f7b129d0212aa3153acf
William Tyrrell: Missing toddler’s grandmother slams social workers

JANUARY 19, 2018
He moved into Karlie’s spare room, while she had boyfriends visit the house.
“He was gone for four or five months. He was working but Karlie would go off with friends when he came home.
“He was like a pound puppy with [her kids].
“But he was using ice. He grew a big beard, his teeth were rotten.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/pa...d/news-story/1a73063218a15527c703ad7d2136710e

Also from the judge
While, if the facts had been different, one might have been concerned as to the effect of the viewing of the segment by members of the community in which the children live, I have come to the sad conclusion that, in the light of what I already know as to the parties' past history, it is more probable than not that this unhappy dispute has, long since, become part of the folklore of the little community in which the children have lived for the greater part of their lives.
 
  • #650
The Mail says "years".
For the rapes of this young girl? Or are they including prior incidents?


BBM
Convicted paedophile and person of interest in William Tyrrell investigation is released from jail after years behind bars for child sex offences
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5300937/William-Tyrrell-person-Tony-Jones-released.html

That is what I was wondering SA.
He has been locked up since a couple of weeks after William disappeared and here he is out in the community after 3 years and 4 months.
 
  • #651
Children at risk of neglect or abuse increases over past decade, report finds
ABC NEWS
THE WORLD TODAY BY POLITICAL REPORTER STEPHANIE BORYS
UPDATED ABOUT AN HOUR AGO [as at 19:11 AEDT 23 January 2018]

‘Rates of children at risk of neglect and abuse are on the rise across Australia, according to a new report, prompting calls from child-protection advocates for more investment in early-intervention programs.’

Key points:

  • More than 54,000 children monitored by child-protection services last financial year
  • Productivity Commission report reveals number increased over past decade
  • Report also identified authorities had improved response times on individual cases
More than 54,000 children were monitored by child-protection services last financial year due to concerns for their welfare.

A report by the Productivity Commission revealed that number was increasing over the past decade.

Hetty Johnston, the founder and chairwoman of Australia's leading child-protection organisation, Bravehearts, is disappointed by the figure.

"Collectively we are failing our children in every single way," she said.

Ms Johnston said drugs and alcohol were partly to blame for the increase.

‘"I can tell you that they [parents] are turning to drugs, they are using drugs, they are getting addicted and they are neglecting and abusing their children as a direct consequence of that and that number is skyrocketing," she said.

The report also showed nearly 48,000 children were taken away from their parents and placed into out-of-home care last financial year, an increase of more than 16,000 over the past decade.

Ms Johnston said early intervention was key to reducing the number.

"We have to start talking about prevention … and not just talking about it, actually doing it, because there are some incredibly fantastic programs out there that could teach young people from the get-go and we are not doing it," she said.’

Read more at:

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-23/children-at-risk-of-neglect-or-abuse-on-the-rise/9353174

Related:

Australian Government
Productivity Commission
Report on Government Services 2018
PART F, CHAPTER 16
Child protection services

https://www.pc.gov.au/research/ongo...ices/2018/community-services/child-protection
 
  • #652
Date of orders; 23 January 2017
Decision date: 23 January 2017

The other two siblings, who are younger than Julian, remain in their mother’s care, and there are apparently no current child protection concerns in respect of them.
https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/58853ecfe4b058596cba36a9

August 28, 2017
Ms Collins said her son had been released from jail in March while William’s mother no longer spoke to her.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/n...s/news-story/2674faf90531f7b129d0212aa3153acf
William Tyrrell: Missing toddler’s grandmother slams social workers

JANUARY 19, 2018
He moved into Karlie’s spare room, while she had boyfriends visit the house.
“He was gone for four or five months. He was working but Karlie would go off with friends when he came home.
“He was like a pound puppy with [her kids].
“But he was using ice. He grew a big beard, his teeth were rotten.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/pa...d/news-story/1a73063218a15527c703ad7d2136710e

Also from the judge
While, if the facts had been different, one might have been concerned as to the effect of the viewing of the segment by members of the community in which the children live, I have come to the sad conclusion that, in the light of what I already know as to the parties' past history, it is more probable than not that this unhappy dispute has, long since, become part of the folklore of the little community in which the children have lived for the greater part of their lives.

The 1st quote backs my comment.
The 2nd and 3rd quotes are from NC, which many of you chose not to believe except when the argument suits
The 4th quote, I'm looking for the link, but I thought was a reference the judge was making to another case with other children, that the judge was using as a precedent, to show his decision making in the releasing of WT's status as a foster child, but not sure on that.
 
  • #653
The 1st quote backs my comment.
The 2nd and 3rd quotes are from NC, which many of you chose not to believe except when the argument suits
The 4th quote, I'm looking for the link, but I thought was a reference the judge was making to another case with other children, that the judge was using as a precedent, to show his decision making in the releasing of WT's status as a foster child, but not sure on that.

1st - Yes it does. At that time, anyways.
2nd and 3rd - I personally don't believe everything that is printed that NC says. I was just pointing out that this could be the case.
4th - same as - imo
The last point - not sure what you mean.
 
  • #654
For the record I don’t disbelieve everything NC says, rather I think her ‘narrative’ is selective. I also question her ‘motive(s)’.

I don’t have an agenda . . .
 
  • #655
For the record I don’t disbelieve everything NC says, rather I think her ‘narrative’ is selective. I also question her ‘motive’.

I agree.
 
  • #656
That is what I was wondering SA.
He has been locked up since a couple of weeks after William disappeared and here he is out in the community after 3 years and 4 months.

He was sentenced to a total three year sentence but Judge Leonie Flannery ordered he be released on supervised parole after two years behind bars, on September 26, 2016.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...person-Tony-Jones-released.html#ixzz54zlzaUi1
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

I'm puzzled by the article, I'm of the understanding he was released in September 2016, so why the article now?
 
  • #657
The 4th quote, I'm looking for the link, but I thought was a reference the judge was making to another case with other children, that the judge was using as a precedent, to show his decision making in the releasing of WT's status as a foster child, but not sure on that.

No, the judge was definitely referring to the specifics of William and his bio parents, and the community in which William and "Sarah" lived for so much of their lives, with their foster parents.

Here's the link ... it is in point #6.

https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/58853ecfe4b058596cba36a9
 
  • #658
He was sentenced to a total three year sentence but Judge Leonie Flannery ordered he be released on supervised parole after two years behind bars, on September 26, 2016.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...person-Tony-Jones-released.html#ixzz54zlzaUi1
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

I'm puzzled by the article, I'm of the understanding he was released in September 2016, so why the article now?

Yes it confused me as well frog.
In fact he could have been in the community since September 2016.
:gaah:
 
  • #659
The 1st quote backs my comment.
The 2nd and 3rd quotes are from NC, which many of you chose not to believe except when the argument suits
The 4th quote, I'm looking for the link, but I thought was a reference the judge was making to another case with other children, that the judge was using as a precedent, to show his decision making in the releasing of WT's status as a foster child, but not sure on that.
Yes you are right on #4. The Judge cites previous case law.
(quote)
The parens patriae jurisdiction


Aside from where statute confers jurisdiction to make orders restraining publication in the media of information concerning a child, the court’s power to do so is an aspect of its inherent parental - or parens patriae - jurisdiction. In New South Wales, this aspect of that jurisdiction was first referred to in P v P, [3] where Powell J (as he then was) held that the court, in exercise of its wardship jurisdiction, has power to protect a ward from injury by publicity by making an order restraining anyone, whether a party to the proceedings or not, from publishing information relating to, or likely to injure, the ward; but that such an order should not be made of course, but only after due regard to other rights which the court has a duty to protect; [4] and further that those principles were not limited to wardship cases but extended to any case in which the court was exercising its parental jurisdiction. [5] However, his Honour declined to grant an injunction restraining the proposed televising of a segment on a television program relating to children who were wards of the court, their maternal grandparents and their mother, the matter being in the public interest and there being no real risk of substantial harm to the children: [6]

Although my concern as to the second matter has been less easy to resolve, I have, after anxious consideration, concluded that it would be contrary to principle for me to intervene in order to have the scenes in question deleted from the segment when televised.

Given the present state of society, it is, in my view, only proper that the public be made aware of the bitterness, distrust, and, at times, irresponsible actions which are a commonplace of disputes such as these, and of the often intractable problems which judges commonly encounter when called upon to resolve such disputes. So too, I think it only proper that the public be made aware that, despite the fact that the parties to such disputes almost always claim to be motivated by a desire to advance the best interests of the child or children in question, the tragic fact is that it is usually the child, or children, in question who is, or are, most likely to be hurt by the bitterness and tensions to which it is, or they are, exposed, and the irresponsible actions to which it is, or they are, subjected. Even if the proposed segment does nothing more, it, at the least, makes those matters brutally clear.

This being so, it seems to me that, unless I can perceive a real risk of substantial harm to the two young children whose interests I am concerned to protect, it would be wrong for me to intervene. Since the children are so young, and since, as chance would have it, the plaintiffs, with whom they live do not own a television set, it is unlikely, in the extreme, that the televising of the proposed segment would have any immediate effect upon either of them. While, if the facts had been different, one might have been concerned as to the effect of the viewing of the segment by members of the community in which the children live, I have come to the sad conclusion that, in the light of what I already know as to the parties' past history, it is more probable than not that this unhappy dispute has, long since, become part of the folklore of the little community in which the children have lived for the greater part of their lives.
(unquote)
https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/58853ecfe4b058596cba36a9
 
  • #660
Yes it confused me as well frog.
In fact he could have been in the community since September 2016.
:gaah:

I think he probably has been ... and 'someone' has just pointed that out to the media.

How sickening. Rape an 11 year old girl, multiple times, and do less than 2 years in jail. :mad:
So many of our judges and the precedence they use are <bleep> .
 
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