Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #28

[iailwa]

Can anyone gather who got paid for interviews as per NC's comment?

here it is :
“A lot of people have made money going on television talking about William and me. I’m still a ‘suspect’ and the police have yet to sit down and have a proper chat with me and find out what I know.“I don’t want money, I just want help for Brendan. He needs it"

Well - who are these people? Of course the police interviewed her initially. I can only think of her friend. Unless the FP's made $ in their interview? I reckon she is prone to exaggerating... possibly to find funds for her son's recovery? I hear little mention of her despair re william v's her son. To me, my children are everything, and then their children are the even more everything

 

[iailwa]

Their wealth. :gaah:

BBM

It amazes me how people keep saying this like they are multi millionaires. They had an old fibro house in an affluent suburb, probably purchased when they were younger - a good buy from a Real Estate point of view.

Now they have made additions and are probably mortgaged to the hilt, like many these days.

A 3 bedroom house in the Western Suburbs of Sydney is worth well over $1mil these days (my relatives sold over 12 months ago for more).

I know people that just bought a house for around the $1mil mark (not even in Sydney), they will pull the house down and build from scratch. They are not what I consider wealthy - they both work hard.

What is considered Wealthy these days?

yer well i have seen their house & know their occupations, don't think for a minute they are strugglers.... they are weathy. to even afford a house where they live, & then to go onto renovations... well?

 

[louisepiglet]

Again, quotes from DCI Jubelin’s presser on 12 September 2017:

‘(09:58) R:

'Mr Jubelin, on the subject of William's foster care, have you been able to rule out involvement by the foster family or the natural family in his disappearance?'

(10:08) GJ:

'The simple answer to that, yes. I'm standing here saying I have ruled out the foster carer parents and I have ruled out the biological parents as being involved in this investigation.'’

‘(11:53) R:

'Are the majority of those suspects sex offenders?'

(11:58) GJ:

'I think we need to keep an open mind in regards to this. There's an assumption right from the start, that a three year old child's been abducted that may, or may not, be the sexual predator. We're keeping an open mind to that. I can't break down specifically how many persons of interest are on the basis of suspicion attached to their sexual interests in children but I do want to stress this is a unique investigation. I'm very mindful that we've looked at all possibilities and I keep an open mind to it.

I hear stories from overseas of situations where children have disappeared for decades and the turned up in circumstances. I also hear stories of incidents have occurred that are by accident and been covered up and then revealed. So, we are keeping an open mind to it and our focus is not just on sex offenders or, let's break it down; paedophiles. We're not just looking at that aspect of it.

And we're also mindful that our research tells us that the child, at the age of three, doesn't necessarily fit into the parameters of childless couples where young babies have been abducted. It's that unique nature of this investigation that's making this particularly trying.'

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/e...e-of-William-Tyrrell-7-News-12-September-2017

‘(15:16) R:

'You mentioned those(?) overseas cases. Have you been in touch with investigators in other cases around the world, for example, Madeline McCann?'

(15:24) GJ:

'I won't go into the specifics of the people that I've spoken to but, yes, we have spoken to identified experts overseas in relation to this. Anyone that we believe could value add to the investigation, we're open to speaking to them.

One thing that has done speaking to the experts overseas, is that it's reinforced to us that we're on the right track in the way that we're approaching this investigation.'

‘(20:20) R:

'The Walk for William advocates have been talkimg today about a potential bush track escape route from the bush to the highway. Is something about that coming up here?'

(20:35) GJ:

'Look, there's a lot of people who make commentary on this. I'd say, I'd say, we're the ones investigating the matter, we're fully aware of the circumstances. We know what happened in Kendall and around Kendall and all the bush tracks. That's pure speculation on their behalf.'’

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/e...-disappearance-of-William-Tyrrell-(continued)

BBM. Interesting comment. I have never noticed that part of the statement before.

 

[Bohemian]

yer well i have seen their house & know their occupations, don't think for a minute they are strugglers.... they are weathy. to even afford a house where they live, & then to go onto renovations... well?

Honestly, it’s irrelevant. The same goes for the BF’s socioeconomic status. Take that from someone who has lived on both sides of the railway tracks.

 

[Bohemian]

BBM. Interesting comment. I have never noticed that part of the statement before.

That was my initial thought, when coupled with the information about police searching bush tracks for parts that may have fallen off a 4WD. I remember being pilloried when I aired it here many moons ago. It’s still in the back of my mind.

 

[Bohemian]

Kim Loweke is from Wellington, where Bill Spedding lived for some years.
Kim shared a house with Debbie Gardoll (who was married to Tony Jones in the past).
Debbie's brother also shared a house with them at one stage.
Kim knows Bill in passing, from two interactions concerning a washing machine purchased for her daughter and a fix-it job for Kim. She has made a lot of this connection in the media, but it's about the same level of depth as my connection with a plumber who fixed my downpipes last week - a very tenuous link.
Tony Jones lived across the street from the Speddings in Wellington a long time ago, but they only spoke once when Tony's house burnt down and the Speddings gave them a cuppa and a blanket while the fire was being dealt with.
As for Tony's wife, she would certainly have known about various activities of her husband, perhaps excluding the sexual ones.

It appears that Kim has actively sought out a 'friendship' with NC well after William went missing. They most likely haven't known each other for long.

Thanks CP. That’s the story at least.

 

[louisepiglet]

yer well i have seen their house & know their occupations, don't think for a minute they are strugglers.... they are weathy. to even afford a house where they live, & then to go onto renovations... well?

Why is that a bad thing. They are an older settled couple with good jobs . Of course they would be in a good financial position. After all, they have worked for it . They then opened their hearts and their home to two children who needed it. They could have chosen to live the good life and travel the world instead .Good on them I say.

 

[louisepiglet]

yer well i have seen their house & know their occupations, don't think for a minute they are strugglers.... they are weathy. to even afford a house where they live, & then to go onto renovations... well?

How did you know these things?

 

[iailwa]

Honestly, it’s irrelevant. The same goes for the BF’s socioeconomic status. Take that from someone who has lived in both sides of the railway tracks.

well the same goes for me. both sides of the tracks! i understand. But if anyone thinks there may be a wealth division, i'd say yes there is - wrt to the BF & the FF. Incredibly so... that was to William's benefit no doubt, but to be separated from your mother hurts even when u are 7 months. I'm glad he got a better life - but where did this better life lead to? it's beyond belief really - feel so sorry for both the FPs and the BPs

 

[iailwa]

How did you know these things?

dr google & friends of friends

 

[iailwa]

Why is that a bad thing. They are an older settled couple with good jobs . Of course they would be in a good financial position. After all, they have worked for it . They then opened their hearts and their home to two children who needed it. They could have chosen to live the good life and travel the world instead .Good on them I say.

oh no, don't believe that i think they were ungrateful or anything along those lines. I think they likely delivered the best care they could, no matter the finacials.... truly!

 

[sleepinoz]

yer well i have seen their house & know their occupations, don't think for a minute they are strugglers.... they are weathy. to even afford a house where they live, & then to go onto renovations... well?

I didn't suggest they were strugglers, they're not, but they aren't in the 'wealthy' bracket either. IMO

 

[Bohemian]

well the same goes for me. both sides of the tracks! i understand. But if anyone thinks there may be a wealth division, i'd say yes there is - wrt to the BF & the FF. Incredibly so... that was to William's benefit no doubt, but to be separated from your mother hurts even when u are 7 months. I'm glad he got a better life - but where did this better life lead to? it's beyond belief really - feel so sorry for both the FPs and the BPs

Yes, a difference in socioeconomic status between the BP and FP but I find it hard to extrapolate that into class discrimination. Poverty alone does not factor into any of the literature I have read regarding risk to children, whereas witnessing domestic violence and carer drug addiction does. In fact, I seem to remember that poverty was mentioned in the NSW Act that covers children’s and young people’s protection and it was not a stand-alone reason to remove children from their caregivers.

Again, the anger felt and the ‘if onlys’ expressed. I understand, they are part of the grief process and, yes, I feel empathy for everyone who cares for William and is suffering because of that. As I said before, no one is to blame for this tragedy, except the person or persons who are responsible for William’s disappearance.

 

[JLZ]

I just can't get past how quickly ALL the parents were cleared. Have LE ever thought of inviting some of the FBI to come here and do a independent investigation. I have heard of this happening in other countries. I personally have always found the foster parents and grandparent to be rather fishy. The whole dragging WT out of school for an out of the blue visit to grandma? The timing of the foster dad leaving to go into town for better phone reception? The grandmas ties to pedophiles? The timing of it all seems weird to me. According to the foster mum WT was around the front for 5 mins or less. So that means there was a tiny window of time for a bad guy or guys. To be driving down a dead end and grab him with virtually no sound. I just can't get past the odds of it all.

He wasn't dragged out of school. Neither of the children were of school age. It wasn't an "out of the blue visit to grandma". Highly unlikely that the perpetrator just happened to be cruising by. He had a reason for being there; such as, lived there, or was working there, or was lying in wait for the child. There may have been sound--conversation--depending on which part of the property it was from which William was picked up.

Oh, and--Grandma's ties to pedophiles? Really?

 

[Hbayne]

I just can't get past how quickly ALL the parents were cleared. Have LE ever thought of inviting some of the FBI to come here and do a independent investigation. I have heard of this happening in other countries. I personally have always found the foster parents and grandparent to be rather fishy. The whole dragging WT out of school for an out of the blue visit to grandma? The timing of the foster dad leaving to go into town for better phone reception? The grandmas ties to pedophiles? The timing of it all seems weird to me. According to the foster mum WT was around the front for 5 mins or less. So that means there was a tiny window of time for a bad guy or guys. To be driving down a dead end and grab him with virtually no sound. I just can't get past the odds of it all.

Are you confusing bio grandma and foster grandma ? Where is the foster grandmas links to paedoohiles ??? If your talking about bill spedding , the only link was she used him as a repairman well before his criminal history was revealed. Bio gran is the one with the links to the pedo TJ .

 

[Bohemian]

On Grief and Loss:

https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/grief-loss

 

[iailwa]

Why is that a bad thing. They are an older settled couple with good jobs . Of course they would be in a good financial position. After all, they have worked for it . They then opened their hearts and their home to two children who needed it. They could have chosen to live the good life and travel the world instead .Good on them I say.

YES I totally agree, but they didn't travel the world, did they - that you know of? they needed to work & they wanted a child/ren because of reasons we will never know. I'm so glad they provided for these children. But things got messed up yeh? I think it's at the bottom of my list that something untoward happened to WT & they were clever enough to cover it up. So I say BOTTOM of my list, but who know knows - they are intelligent FPs? I doubt they are involved -it's a (unlikely) possibility but not unheard of... wtf knows/ No one here anything for sure. I don't even think Rosann knows! Time for an inquest in the next year or two - JMO

 

[Josh Knight]

BBM isn't the FBI American? I doubt they'd come here...

Yes they are Anerican but they have also helped out investigations in other countries.

 

[iailwa]

Yes, a difference in socioeconomic status between the BP and FP but if find it hard to extrapolate that into class discrimination. In fact, poverty does not factor into any of the literature I have read regarding risk to children, whereas witnessing domestic violence and carer drug addiction does. In fact, I seem to remember that poverty was mentioned in the NSW Act that covers child and young people’s protection and it was not a stand-alone reason to remove children from their caregivers.

Again, the ‘if onlys’. I understand it, it’s part of the grief process and, yes, I feel empathy for everyone who cares for William. As I said before, no one is to blame for this tragedy, except the person or persons who are responsible for William’s disappearance.

yes, well said...

 

[iailwa]

Yes they are Anerican but they have also helped out investigations in other countries.

ok good point, but it's kinda rare don't you think. I hope so tho!