Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #28

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  • #881
Well, maybe they could? He did go missing under their care, as per under the state's care. I'd be furious if i were them

If I were them, I would be furious with myself for not straightening up so the children went into state care in the first place.

Always so easy to blame someone else for your own transgressions.

They have no civil case. imo
 
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He wasn't dragged out of school. Neither of the children were of school age. It wasn't an "out of the blue visit to grandma". Highly unlikely that the perpetrator just happened to be cruising by. He had a reason for being there; such as, lived there, or was working there, or was lying in wait for the child. There may have been sound--conversation--depending on which part of the property it was from which William was picked up.

Oh, and--Grandma's ties to pedophiles? Really?
I sense that you believe this was a random act. The FG used BS as a handy man. Don't you think that's considered a tie. Your right he wasn't dragged out of school. I got that one wrong but according to this article. It was a last minute plan to go to FG house.
https://m.coffscoastadvocate.com.au/news/stunning-new-revelations-about-the-day-william-tyr/3314146/
 
  • #884
If I were them, I would be furious with myself for not straightening up so the children went into state care in the first place.

Always so easy to blame someone else for your own transgressions.

They have no civil case. imo

yes OK but imagine if your child was taken away, then your child goes missing, under the care of the state? how would you feel?
 
  • #885
ok good point, but it's kinda rare don't you think. I hope so tho!

I believe an FBI profiler was working on the Australian case of "mr Cruel"
 
  • #886
yes OK but imagine if your child was taken away, then your child goes missing, under the care of the state? how would you feel?

iailwa ... I just said how I'd feel. Angry with myself for allowing it to happen in the 1st place. I wasn't making that up, as an agenda.
 
  • #887
I sense that you believe this was a random act. The FG used BS as a handy man. Don't you think that's considered a tie. Your right he wasn't dragged out of school. I got that one wrong but according to this article. It was a last minute plan to go to FG house.
https://m.coffscoastadvocate.com.au/news/stunning-new-revelations-about-the-day-william-tyr/3314146/

I also believe this was a random opportunistic act.

Could you please provide me with where it says that grandma used Spedding as a handy man? As opposed to him being hired to fix the washing machine. I don't believe I have ever seen that anywhere before? Thanks. :)
 
  • #888
I sense that you believe this was a random act. The FG used BS as a handy man. Don't you think that's considered a tie. Your right he wasn't dragged out of school. I got that one wrong but according to this article. It was a last minute plan to go to FG house.
https://m.coffscoastadvocate.com.au/news/stunning-new-revelations-about-the-day-william-tyr/3314146/

Natalie said . . . !

It wasn't a last-minute plan. It was a last minute change of timing, to arrive the night before they had planned.

Did FG use BS as a handyman? He was engaged to fix the washing machine, so they'd met at least once. I don't consider that a tie, and he's an alleged pedophile, not yet convicted, and in 2014 the allegations were not public.

P: And it was a surprise visit to Nanna’s?

M: Yeah we’d actually planned to go on the Friday, but we ended up the Thursday, leaving earlier, and it was a surprise for Mum and it was a surprise for the kids to go before, because they love going to Nanna’s, yeah it was a complete surprise.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/2...full-transcript-from-william-tyrrells-parents
 
  • #889
iailwa ... I just said how I'd feel. Angry with myself for allowing it to happen in the 1st place. I wasn't making that up, as an agenda.

Not angry or grief stricken enough to put daily selfies on SM.
 
  • #890
Again, quotes from DCI Jubelin’s presser on 12 September 2017:

‘(09:58) R:

'Mr Jubelin, on the subject of William's foster care, have you been able to rule out involvement by the foster family or the natural family in his disappearance?'

(10:08) GJ:

'The simple answer to that, yes. I'm standing here saying I have ruled out the foster carer parents and I have ruled out the biological parents as being involved in this investigation.'’

‘(11:53) R:

'Are the majority of those suspects sex offenders?'

(11:58) GJ:

'I think we need to keep an open mind in regards to this. There's an assumption right from the start, that a three year old child's been abducted that may, or may not, be the sexual predator. We're keeping an open mind to that. I can't break down specifically how many persons of interest are on the basis of suspicion attached to their sexual interests in children but I do want to stress this is a unique investigation. I'm very mindful that we've looked at all possibilities and I keep an open mind to it.

I hear stories from overseas of situations where children have disappeared for decades and the turned up in circumstances. I also hear stories of incidents have occurred that are by accident and been covered up and then revealed. So, we are keeping an open mind to it and our focus is not just on sex offenders or, let's break it down; paedophiles. We're not just looking at that aspect of it.

And we're also mindful that our research tells us that the child, at the age of three, doesn't necessarily fit into the parameters of childless couples where young babies have been abducted. It's that unique nature of this investigation that's making this particularly trying.'

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/e...e-of-William-Tyrrell-7-News-12-September-2017

‘(15:16) R:

'You mentioned those(?) overseas cases. Have you been in touch with investigators in other cases around the world, for example, Madeline McCann?'

(15:24) GJ:

'I won't go into the specifics of the people that I've spoken to but, yes, we have spoken to identified experts overseas in relation to this. Anyone that we believe could value add to the investigation, we're open to speaking to them.

One thing that has done speaking to the experts overseas, is that it's reinforced to us that we're on the right track in the way that we're approaching this investigation.'

‘(20:20) R:

'The Walk for William advocates have been talkimg today about a potential bush track escape route from the bush to the highway. Is something about that coming up here?'

(20:35) GJ:

'Look, there's a lot of people who make commentary on this. I'd say, I'd say, we're the ones investigating the matter, we're fully aware of the circumstances. We know what happened in Kendall and around Kendall and all the bush tracks. That's pure speculation on their behalf.'’

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/e...-disappearance-of-William-Tyrrell-(continued)

I'm sorry am I missing something here? Your just relaying a press conference where they are ruling out all parents? That's exactly what I find odd. Then they are saying they have talked to overseas detectives. That's very different to overseas detectives actually coming here?
 
  • #891
If I were them, I would be furious with myself for not straightening up so the children went into state care in the first place.

Always so easy to blame someone else for your own transgressions.

They have no civil case. imo

Ok well i'd be furious at myself too. But i think i'd be more furious at the system - cause if i were K and i had care of him it might not have happened. do we know how perfect these FP were? I don't think we can assume anything. Parents, whether F or P, make mistakes. It seems both made mistakes in this situ
 
  • #892
yes OK but imagine if your child was taken away, then your child goes missing, under the care of the state? how would you feel?

I would feel grief and I would reach out for professional help. And keep reaching out until I found the help I needed. For my children, and my children’s children ad infinitum.
 
  • #893
I'm sorry am I missing something here? Your just relaying a press conference where they are ruling out all parents? That's exactly what I find odd. Then they are saying they have talked to overseas detectives. That's very different to overseas detectives actually coming here?

Are you serious? Jurisdictional issues for a start.
 
  • #894
I'm sorry am I missing something here? Your just relaying a press conference where they are ruling out all parents? That's exactly what I find odd. Then they are saying they have talked to overseas detectives. That's very different to overseas detectives actually coming here?

Why "overseas" detectives .
 
  • #895
iailwa ... I just said how I'd feel. Angry with myself for allowing it to happen in the 1st place. I wasn't making that up, as an agenda.

That's how i feel too, i hear u :(
 
  • #896
Ok well i'd be furious at myself too. But i think i'd be more furious at the system - cause if i were K and i had care of him it might not have happened. do we know how perfect these FP were? I don't think we can assume anything. Parents, whether F or P, make mistakes. It seems both made mistakes in this situ

The person who is far from perfect is the scum bag who abducted William.

The foster parents are victims here.
 
  • #897
Ok well i'd be furious at myself too. But i think i'd be more furious at the system - cause if i were K and i had care of him it might not have happened. do we know how perfect these FP were? I don't think we can assume anything. Parents, whether F or P, make mistakes. It seems both made mistakes in this situ

What mistakes have the foster parents made ?
 
  • #898
I believe an FBI profiler was working on the Australian case of "mr Cruel"

And I believe they also provided assistance in Karen Rustevski’s the misper/homicide investigation.
 
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