Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #28

[Karinna]

And I was just thinking of you Karinna.

In a good way i hope,

 

[Warshawski]

Karlie Tyrrell, 29, was arrested in a Ryde shopping centre

http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw...r/news-story/cadf3f99e00570b0539f9648d2d8629f

This was posted way back in the early threads somewhere.
Just thought it was worth posting again.

November 16, 2007

"Mr Howard tells too many stories," said Karlie Elrington, 19, a child-care worker, of North Ryde, as she wandered through the Macquarie Shopping Centre. "So it's time for a change. I'd go for Rudd - though he is a bit of a geek as well."

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national...o-battle/2007/11/15/1194766869667.html?page=2

Thanks Soso ...I had forgotten this, but it's prompted me to ask how / when / why the surname ' Tyrrell ' came into play.
She was 'Elrington' here at 19 and it must have been not too long after this that she had little L ( at which time Kelly Elrington excitedly announced she had become an Aunt ) but she was a Tyrrell then at time of William's birth & still now as per the court report.

She didn't give William his father's Surname which I think is also interesting ..

Maybe she wasn't legally an ' Elrington at time of the 'political' responses, maybe she just used that name ... Did her Mother remarry an Elrington ?

 

[Bohemian]

Think poor horse is done and dusted !

Think so too HB x

 

[Karinna]

Thanks Soso ...I had forgotten this, but it's prompted me to ask how / when / why the surname ' Tyrrell ' came into play.
She was 'Elrington' here at 19 and it must have been not too long after this that she had little L ( at which time Kelly Elrington excitedly announced she had become an Aunt ) but she was a Tyrrell then at time of William's birth & still now as per the court report.

She didn't give William his father's Surname which I think is also interesting ..

Maybe she wasn't legally an ' Elrington at time of the 'political' responses, maybe she just used that name ... Did her Mother remarry an Elrington ?

I agree, the name is interesting. And her career as a child care worker too.

 

[sosocurious]

Thanks Soso ...I had forgotten this, but it's prompted me to ask how / when / why the surname ' Tyrrell ' came into play.
She was 'Elrington' here at 19 and it must have been not too long after this that she had little L ( at which time Kelly Elrington excitedly announced she had become an Aunt ) but she was a Tyrrell then at time of William's birth & still now as per the court report.

She didn't give William his father's Surname which I think is also interesting ..

Maybe she wasn't legally an ' Elrington at time of the 'political' responses, maybe she just used that name ... Did her Mother remarry an Elrington ?

She hyphenated in court the other day. Maybe she just decided to used both her Mum and Dads name.

 

[sosocurious]

The photo of Brendan when he was a boy.
He looks to be at a wedding.
Wonder who's wedding?
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/pa...d/news-story/1a73063218a15527c703ad7d2136710e

 

[Warshawski]

I just keep wondering where and with who Williams sister was in the care of before joining him a week after his arrival at his foster family.
Could she have been with a relative? For reasons that can not be disclosed she had to be removed from that arrangement as well?

I find it odd that NC never refers to Williams sister. The foster parents have.
They have explained why it is important to protect her from the nuances of her situation.
imo

i'm so far behind that no doubt I'll get further into the thread & find someone has asked or answered my thoughts, but hey ...

so I'm wondering, do we know for sure that Brendan is L's bio father ?

 

[sosocurious]

i'm so far behind that no doubt I'll get further into the thread & find someone has asked or answered my thoughts, but hey ...

so I'm wondering, do we know for sure that Brendan is L's bio father ?

Well Natalie has said he is.

 

[SouthAussie]

Thanks Soso ...I had forgotten this, but it's prompted me to ask how / when / why the surname ' Tyrrell ' came into play.
She was 'Elrington' here at 19 and it must have been not too long after this that she had little L ( at which time Kelly Elrington excitedly announced she had become an Aunt ) but she was a Tyrrell then at time of William's birth & still now as per the court report.

She didn't give William his father's Surname which I think is also interesting ..

Maybe she wasn't legally an ' Elrington at time of the 'political' responses, maybe she just used that name ... Did her Mother remarry an Elrington ?

BBM

I wonder where Brendan was at the time of William's birth and production of the birth certificate. Was he perhaps incarcerated?


Under the various State name registration guidelines, a child born to unmarried parents will be registered with the mother's surname, unless both parents agree to the child being registered with the father's surname.
http://www.kidspot.com.au/birth/bab...s/news-story/114c063feefe21169cf9600b4a4cf795

 

[SouthAussie]

The photo of Brendan when he was a boy.
He looks to be at a wedding.
Wonder who's wedding?
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/pa...d/news-story/1a73063218a15527c703ad7d2136710e

He is wearing what looks like a wedding boutonnière, so you would think it was the wedding of someone he was close with, at the time. Maybe his father's wedding - to someone who is not his mother?

 

[sosocurious]

He is wearing what looks like a wedding boutonnière, so you would think it was the wedding of someone he was close with, at the time. Maybe his father's wedding - to someone who is not his mother?

Or his mothers to someone who is not his father.

 

[SouthAussie]

Or his mothers to someone who is not his father.

True. I should never assume that a woman takes her husband's surname. Or that her son didn't take his stepfather's surname. Just was presuming because both Brendan and his mother have Collins for a surname.

 

[frogwell]

He is wearing what looks like a wedding boutonnière, so you would think it was the wedding of someone he was close with, at the time. Maybe his father's wedding - to someone who is not his mother?

I think it is his Dad's wedding to 2nd wife.

 

[sosocurious]

I think it is his Dad's wedding to 2nd wife.

Yes I agree frog.
He looks to be 10 to12 years that would be about 1993.
As it is all over google his half brother was born in 1995 seems more likely.
imo

 

[suspicious]

I am sorry that you think our highly trained specialists are not qualified enough ... that our people who are employing FBI and other methods may be inadequate.

Do you know that an FBI profiler has not been here to help with this case? Or that they have not been communicating on a regular or as-needed basis. Or is that an assumption because the police are not publically speaking about how they are dealing with this case?

Remember, a world-wide alert went out for William. There are many agencies out there that have details of this case.

I didn’t know that. Interesting


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[SouthAussie]

I didn’t know that. Interesting


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Yes, it was way back earlier in the case ... when we first heard about pedophile groups. A missing person alert regarding William was shown by a whole bunch of other countries. We were concerned at the time that police may have seen William's photo on an international pedo site.

Of course, I can't find any links to the alerts now. I just looked. But they may be somewhere back in the threads.

 

[Warshawski]

I know that you are very empathetic toward Karlie. And that is okay, it is fine, it is good.

But others of us feel much differently. And some waver in between.

There are endless "if onlys" with Karlie. Starting with ... if only she had straightened up so she could keep her children. Even if it meant rehab and/or getting rid of her live-in boyfriend/partner. Her children should have been that important.

So, if our/my patience with her behaviour is running out, it is because - for some of us - it has been years now. And still the bad behaviour rears its ugly head, in a most public way, and in front of her children. Resulting in Criminal Court for her.

I know that you think she has acted out of fear, possibly. I think she has acted out of anger and disrespect. The police/FaCS would never have taken her children, if it weren't for that first 'if only'.

.

I understand what you are saying SA ( ask my kids, I'm great at preaching the 'high road') and thankfully, to date, I've survived the tumultuous roundabout, as have my kids.

Who knows what's around the corner.

I would hope each one of us will be equipped to summon the strength as needed in the given circumstances (morally, legally & all others as 'judged socially acceptable' )

At the same time, in life I try hard to live by a motto of 'don't judge unless you've hoed the row' ...

IMO, we are not born 'equal', in as far as we are 'individuals'.

To me that equates to any & all variables in our fundamental indoctrination to life on this earth, let alone all that follows.

I say, let's stop on Karlie. No matter the reasons why, no matter the circumstances of, it's clear to me that this young woman doesn't need our judgement adding to her burden.

IMO, our focus needs to be on William. Please, please, someone have the courage to speak out about that little irritating niggle at the back of your mind ..

 

[CaptainPeacock]

I absolutely agree with you iailwa. Crimestoppers seems clogged with misinformation which keeps staff busy dealing with useless info and false leads.

 

[SouthAussie]

I understand what you are saying SA ( ask my kids, I'm great at preaching the 'high road') and thankfully, to date, I've survived the tumultuous roundabout, as have my kids.

Who knows what's around the corner.

I would hope each one of us will be equipped to summon the strength as needed in the given circumstances (morally, legally & all others as 'judged socially acceptable' )

At the same time, in life I try hard to live by a motto of 'don't judge unless you've hoed the row' ...

IMO, we are not born 'equal', in as far as we are 'individuals'.

To me that equates to any & all variables in our fundamental indoctrination to life on this earth, let alone all that follows.

I say, let's stop on Karlie. No matter the reasons why, no matter the circumstances of, it's clear to me that this young woman doesn't need our judgement adding to her burden.

IMO, our focus needs to be on William. Please, please, someone have the courage to speak out about that little irritating niggle at the back of your mind ..

We will likely stop with our opinions about Karlie's behaviour, when she stops putting herself in the news for spitting in the face of a police officer.

I did respond to your comment about 'judgement' before. You may not have seen it, but I hope you do as it is far more comprehensive.

I call these opinions. The criminal court judge and FaCS are the only ones giving out judgements.

 

[sosocurious]

Yes, it was way back earlier in the case ... when we first heard about pedophile groups. A missing person alert regarding William was shown by a whole bunch of other countries. We were concerned at the time that police may have seen William's photo on an international pedo site.

Of course, I can't find any links to the alerts now. I just looked. But they may be somewhere back in the threads.

THE search for missing toddler William Tyrell has gone global this week as agencies as far afield as Europe and the US appeal for information about the case.

Crime Stoppers websites in up to 26 countries have been asked by NSW Crime Stoppers to post an article about William’s abduction from the small town of Kendall last year, asking anyone with information to contact Australian Police.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/n...d/news-story/28531b37a866546089793027c69b0d3f
Hunt for missing toddler William Tyrell goes across the world