Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #29

[Bohemian]

One father, two mothers? Maybe? Neither mother kept their child/ren safe from the father and/or domestic violence and/or were all drug dependent and neglectful?

If Margaret has a son like this, that could explain why she appears to be accepting or non-believing of Spedding's 'ways'. Blind devotion.

Or complicity?

 

[frogwell]

Why is it, that the crimes mainly perpetrated against women, (sexual assault, DV) seem to put a burden of responsibility upon victim? It is insidious. Why do governments and people lack motivation around making this solveable and more just?

 

[Whàngarei]

One father, two mothers? Maybe? Neither mother kept their child/ren safe from the father and/or domestic violence and/or were all drug dependent and neglectful?

If Margaret has a son like this, that could explain why she appears to be accepting or non-believing of Spedding's 'ways'. Blind devotion.

Imo shes totally aware

 

[Bohemian]

Why is it, that the crimes mainly perpetrated against women, (sexual assault, DV) seem to put a burden of responsibility upon victim? It is insidious. Why do governments and people lack motivation around making this solveable and more just?

Patriarchal society. They don’t lack motivation anymore, ie; #timesup (mother****ers)

 

[SouthAussie]

Imo shes totally aware

Yes, I think so, too. Just explains it away in her mind ... 'he didn't mean it', 'it was an accident', 'he can't help it, it is a sickness' .... 'I still love him and need him'.

 

[Whàngarei]

Yes, I think so, too. Just explains it away in her mind ... 'he didn't mean it', 'it was an accident', 'he can't help it, it is a sickness' .... 'I still love him and need him'.

She considers him her best friend, soulmate lalala .but shes knows

 

[SouthAussie]

She considers him her best friend, soulmate lalala .but shes knows

And Jubelin knows she knows ..... imo

 

[SouthAussie]

Watching the commencement of the new dig - which started this morning - for the Beaumont children, here in Adelaide. Made me wonder if the unluckiest-washing-machine-repair-man in the world (as Wexford calls him) is sitting back hoping like all heck that this happens in William's case. That he himself is long dead and gone before they stumble on William and can prove it was him.

The police have 'known' the Beaumont children's killer for a long time, just never have been able to get that final link to prove it was him.

I truly hope that Margaret cracks it one day, before Spedding is gone. God help her if she doesn't. They will both burn in hell together. (PS I am not an organised religious person, as such, but it just explains how I feel, very well.)

Again, all imo.

 

[Bohemian]

I hope that doesn't succeed. I wonder about how many other children have gone missing in the care of the minister, who we haven't heard about because of the child's need for privacy.

Froggy, if you have concerns about a law or an amendment to existing legislation, I understand. There’s nothing I want to do, or feel inclined to do, in response to this particular amendment. You know how I, and others, feel about it. If you feel strongly that the amendment should not be passed into law, round up some like-minded people, write up a few signs and protest peacefully outside State parliament.

As for your wondering, what SA said.

ETA btw No personal disrespect intended.

 

[Bohemian]

Watching the commencement of the new dig - which started this morning - for the Beaumont children, here in Adelaide. Made me wonder if the unluckiest-washing-machine-repair-man in the world (as Wexford calls him) is sitting back hoping like all heck that this happens in William's case. That he himself is long dead and gone before they stumble on William and can prove it was him.

The police have 'known' the Beaumont children's killer for a long time, just never have been able to get that final link to prove it was him.

I truly hope that Margaret cracks it one day, before Spedding is gone. God help her if she doesn't. They will both burn in hell together. (PS I am not an organised religious person, as such, but it just explains how I feel, very well.)

Again, all imo.

Tell ‘im he’s dreamin’ . . .

 

[SouthAussie]

Why is it, that the crimes mainly perpetrated against women, (sexual assault, DV) seem to put a burden of responsibility upon victim? It is insidious. Why do governments and people lack motivation around making this solveable and more just?

Aren't people working on this ... White Ribbon?

If you mean, why are women blamed for children's removal, if there is an abusive/neglectful man in the house. I don't think they are, unless they are complicit in or fully responsible for the abuse/neglect. They just need to get the man out of the house, with restraining orders if necessary, then the children are allowed to stay.

 

[sosocurious]

Rodney Spedding says his father had nothing to do with the suspected abduction of toddler William Tyrrell, claiming police have "lost focus" in their investigation while the real perpetrator remains free.

Rodney Spedding and three of his siblings from Western Australian were convinced of his innocence and would stand by his side.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/will...n-bill-spedding-says-son-20150429-1mvs9b.html


Mrs Spedding said her father-in-law had five children and many grandchildren who adored him.

http://www.westernadvocate.com.au/s...gton-man-investigated-in-william-tyrell-case/

Old info but just thought i would post as a reminder.

BS has 5 children - son Rodney and 3 in WA all convinced he had nothing to do with William's disappearance.

So the fifth child is either not convinced, estranged or deceased. It would seem.
imo

 

[SouthAussie]

Rodney Spedding says his father had nothing to do with the suspected abduction of toddler William Tyrrell, claiming police have "lost focus" in their investigation while the real perpetrator remains free.

Rodney Spedding and three of his siblings from Western Australian were convinced of his innocence and would stand by his side.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/will...n-bill-spedding-says-son-20150429-1mvs9b.html


Mrs Spedding said her father-in-law had five children and many grandchildren who adored him.

http://www.westernadvocate.com.au/s...gton-man-investigated-in-william-tyrell-case/

Old info but just thought i would post as a reminder.

BS has 5 children - son Rodney and 3 in WA all convinced he had nothing to do with William's disappearance.

So the fifth child is either not convinced, estranged or deceased. It would seem.
imo

And then there is this ... which is where I believe the removed-grandchildren come in.

Bill and Margaret married 28 years ago after both having children with previous partners.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/ne...rs-disappearance/story-e6frg6z6-1227195227854

And, worst of all, the three children that he and Margaret have loved and cared for for many years — relatives of hers through her first marriage — have now left their care.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/ne...sh-into-thin-air/story-e6frg6z6-1227308929078

 

[frogwell]

Aren't people working on this ... White Ribbon?

If you mean, why are women blamed for children's removal, if there is an abusive/neglectful man in the house. I don't think they are, unless they are complicit in or fully responsible for the abuse/neglect. They just need to get the man out of the house, with restraining orders if necessary, then the children are allowed to stay.

I understand the concept. I wish I had the time and energy to go through this but I don't, so sorry for opening it up. But it is not that simple IMO. Well, it can be that simple if you are not at risk of financial poverty, complete upheaval of all family members lives and going from the frying pan and into the fire like many victims are. It can seem like a choice between the devil and the deep blue sea and all due to someone else's criminal behaviour. I think billions could be poured into modelling a community based effort to bring the full pressure of the crime onto the shoulders of the perp. The govt. and all it's hangers on want mandatory reporting, therefore skyrocketting numbers. But they don't have the infrastructure to back it up. For all people involved in a DV situation, it must be horrific. To remove children must be devestating for all involved. To remove them to somewhere more traumatic or abusive is criminal and that is what is happening with this current modelling for thousands of families experiencing DV. For a good many, the solution is worse than the problem. Anyway, it's all OT, rant over. MOO

 

[frogwell]

Rodney Spedding says his father had nothing to do with the suspected abduction of toddler William Tyrrell, claiming police have "lost focus" in their investigation while the real perpetrator remains free.

Rodney Spedding and three of his siblings from Western Australian were convinced of his innocence and would stand by his side.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/will...n-bill-spedding-says-son-20150429-1mvs9b.html


Mrs Spedding said her father-in-law had five children and many grandchildren who adored him.

http://www.westernadvocate.com.au/s...gton-man-investigated-in-william-tyrell-case/

Old info but just thought i would post as a reminder.

BS has 5 children - son Rodney and 3 in WA all convinced he had nothing to do with William's disappearance.

So the fifth child is either not convinced, estranged or deceased. It would seem.
imo

We know who the 5th child is. Can't be stated remember?

 

[frogwell]

MS is not a POI. Conversation speculating about what she knows would at least make her an accessory after the fact unless you are all intimating that she just feels it in her waters and should contact Strikeforce Rosann. Maybe we should cool it.

 

[Karinna]

If they were young children, I think we would have heard about it. As we did with William, due to extensive searches etc.
If they were teens, who knows. Teens, I believe, are sometimes classed as runaways, when they perhaps may not be. Whether they are in a foster situation or not.

Though I am not sure how revealing that a child is a foster child is going to make any difference to the situations. It has made no difference to William's situation, and never was going to. A fruitless exercise imo ... other than Allanna Pearl Smith - and everyone else - can now speak about it publicly.

There are good foster parents, like Williams. There are good biological parents, like mine.
There are also bad parents in both categories.

Be that as it may, these are words from an actual foster parent, and i think they are notable. I won't post the link because don't know if it's ok.
(quote)
Don't hate on their parents. Especially don’t do it in front of the kids, but you aren’t on my side when you are talking trash either.

Nobody chooses to be born mentally ill. No one gets addicted to drugs on purpose. Nobody chooses to be born developmentally delayed, to never have lived in a stable family so you don’t know how to replicate it. Abusive and neglectful parents often love their kids and do the best they can, and a lot of them CAN do better if they get help and support, which is what part of this is about. Even if they can’t, it doesn’t make things better for you to rush to judgement.

It is much easier to think of birth parents as monsters, because then YOU could never be like THEM, but truly, birth parents are just people with big problems. Birth and Foster parents often work really hard to have positive relationships with each other, so it doesn’t help me to have you speculating about them.

 

[Karinna]

MS is not a POI. Conversation speculating about what she knows would at least make an accessory. Maybe we should cool it.

I agree, and imagine it is against TOS? She has never been named a POI as far as i am aware?

 

[sosocurious]

We know who the 5th child is. Can't be stated remember?

Do we?

 

[frogwell]

Do we?

for sure