Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #29

[SouthAussie]

But did the child have slap marks on legs

As others have stated, there is no report of slaps or anything like that. It was purely speculation that it may have been what the confrontations/trouble with others in the shopping centre may have been, and why the officer was questioning the marks on the child's legs.

I only thought that as it seems that Karlie does not like others questioning things, evidenced by her spitting in the officer's face when asked about the marks.

She immediately changed the subject to her son being lost, and abused the officer. Deflection from the matter at hand, to me.

 

[SouthAussie]

You know what he looks like. Thats all you need to know.

But the children don't know what he looks like, and probably won't remember if shown, so perhaps that is not all we need to know.

 

[Bohemian]

As others have stated, there is no report of slaps or anything like that. It was purely speculation that it may have been what the confrontations/trouble with others in the shopping centre may have been, and why the officer was questioning the marks on the child's legs.

I only thought that as it seems that Karlie does not like others questioning things, evidenced by her spitting in the officer's face when asked about the marks.

She immediately changed the subject to her son being lost, and abused the officer. Deflection from the matter at hand, to me.

I noticed in the comments on this fb report from channel 9 that NC is at it again in her most eloquent way of blaming foster parents .

Still playing the blame game :sigh:

Again, the person or persons unknown who abducted William from 48 Benaroon Drive, Kendall, on or around 10:30am on Friday, the 12 of September, 2014, have to shoulder this burden.

Double :sigh:

 

[Bohemian]

But the children don't know what he looks like, and probably won't remember if shown, so perhaps that is not all we need to know.

I agree. We need a public RSO register now.

 

[Karinna]

From this msm article it states Brendan Collins sentencing is this week too?
(quote)
The charges for which he was appearing in court on Wednesday involved theft of toys and novelty items, and he was arrested while staying at a location where he was easily detected, and while wearing stolen clothes on a train with the security tags still visibly attached.

On Wednesday, despite looking nervous and exhaling loudly and gritting his teeth, he was extremely polite to the magistrate, telling her, "I'd like to get it dealt with now if that's fine please."

He even thanked her when she told him he would be spending more time in prison because his recent offending had "crossed the threshold" for being let off with a bond or a community based sentence.

This means Collins will be sentenced in the same week as Karlie Tyrrell, William's mother who is facing court over a charge of spitting at a police officer.
https://www.warwickdailynews.com.au/news/downward-spiral-of-william-tyrrells-father-brendan/3318850/

 

[Karinna]

Fairly recent I’d say, unless from arrest and she is as slow healer.

I agree, the large bruise on KT looks recent to me as well. We don't know how she got it though?

 

[Morrisa]

From this msm article it states Brendan Collins sentencing is this week too?
(quote)
The charges for which he was appearing in court on Wednesday involved theft of toys and novelty items, and he was arrested while staying at a location where he was easily detected, and while wearing stolen clothes on a train with the security tags still visibly attached.

On Wednesday, despite looking nervous and exhaling loudly and gritting his teeth, he was extremely polite to the magistrate, telling her, "I'd like to get it dealt with now if that's fine please."

He even thanked her when she told him he would be spending more time in prison because his recent offending had "crossed the threshold" for being let off with a bond or a community based sentence.

This means Collins will be sentenced in the same week as Karlie Tyrrell, William's mother who is facing court over a charge of spitting at a police officer.
https://www.warwickdailynews.com.au/news/downward-spiral-of-william-tyrrells-father-brendan/3318850/

Yep, Friday
https://onlineregistry.lawlink.nsw....0170036737617028918LCSentence/brendan collins

 

[gregjrichards]

I agree. We need a public RSO register now.

It’s a disgrace Australia and the U.K doesn’t have one.

“The biological mother of missing boy William Tyrrell screamed 'coppers lost my son you c***s' at police before repeatedly spitting in an officer's face in a late-night shopping centre showdown.

Karlie Tyrrell's foul-mouthed outburst - where she appeared to blame cops for losing William - was laid bare in police facts for the December 22 incident shown to a court this week.

The incident came more than three years after she was told the devastating news William had vanished from his foster grandmother's home on the New South Wales north coast.”

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Tyrrells-mum-spitting-cop.html#ixzz55dPlOt1X

 

[Karinna]

As others have stated, there is no report of slaps or anything like that. It was purely speculation that it may have been what the confrontations/trouble with others in the shopping centre may have been, and why the officer was questioning the marks on the child's legs.

I only thought that as it seems that Karlie does not like others questioning things, evidenced by her spitting in the officer's face when asked about the marks.

She immediately changed the subject to her son being lost, and abused the officer. Deflection from the matter at hand, to me.

Well from what we have read in msm KT went on an aggressive verbal tirade on other people in the store, and escalated to the point of police having to come and diffuse the situation. Wonder what triggered that in the first place?

 

[Karinna]

Yep, Friday
https://onlineregistry.lawlink.nsw....0170036737617028918LCSentence/brendan collins

Thanks for posting up the link.

 

[sosocurious]

All this and 4 pregnancies - busy girl :gaah:

In March 2014, six months before William went missing, Ms Tyrrell was convicted of assault occasioning actual bodily harm and common assault.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/2...l-mum-sentence-for-spitting-at-police-officer
She would have been pregnant when this assault charge occurred. Wouldn't she?

 

[SouthAussie]

Karlie has obviously been around the block a few times, and knows her way around a courtroom.

Firstly, in the case of common assault:
"By pleading guilty at an early stage, you will be spared the time and expense of a defended hearing. You may also receive a more favourable outcome, as you will demonstrate to the court that you are accepting responsibility for your actions by pleading guilty.
You may even avoid a criminal conviction altogether by persuading the magistrate to make a Section 10 order - which means guiilty but no criminal conviction is recorded against you."

https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/criminal/offences/assault/common-assault/


An intervention or good behaviour bond is often the result of a Section 10 order.

Also, from what I can see among the many NSW sites I have looked at, "duress" is the only defence/reason available to her for her actions. She does not meet the requirements for any other defence/reason.
Hence, her handwritten note about panic attacks? Could that have helped her to attain the pre-sentencing review, that may result in a Section 10 order?

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[Bohemian]

Karlie has obviously been around the block a few times, and knows her way around a courtroom.

Firstly, in the case of common assault:
"By pleading guilty at an early stage, you will be spared the time and expense of a defended hearing. You may also receive a more favourable outcome, as you will demonstrate to the court that you are accepting responsibility for your actions by pleading guilty.
You may even avoid a criminal conviction altogether by persuading the magistrate to make a Section 10 order - which means guiilty but no criminal conviction is recorded against you."

https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/criminal/offences/assault/common-assault/


An intervention or good behaviour bond is often the result of a Section 10 order.

Also, from what I can see among the many NSW sites I have looked at, "duress" is the only defence/reason available to her for her actions. She does not meet the requirements for any other defence. Hence, her handwritten note about panic attacks? Could that have helped her to attain the pre-sentencing review, that may result in a Section 10 order?

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I’m sure the magistrate has been around the block a few times too. He/she would have a pretty well-developed ******** detector.

 

[SouthAussie]

I’m sure the magistrate has been around the block a few times too. He/she would have a pretty well-developed ******** detector.

For sure, hence the pre-sentencing review. Substantiation ... for the magistrate.

 

[they'll get you]

I’m sure the magistrate has been around the block a few times too. He/she would have a pretty well-developed ******** detector.

I think the judge might be hesitant on sending her to jail for a short stint. The media would have a field day and KT might be given a hard time from the inmates considering. . :dunno:


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[SouthAussie]

I think the judge might be hesitant on sending her to jail for a short stint. The media would have a field day and KT might be given a hard time from the inmates considering. . :dunno:


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Her short stint could be up to 2 years long, according to what I have read. This is not her first rodeo for assault.

 

[sleepinoz]

In March 2014, six months before William went missing, Ms Tyrrell was convicted of assault occasioning actual bodily harm and common assault.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/2...l-mum-sentence-for-spitting-at-police-officer
She would have been pregnant when this assault charge occurred. Wouldn't she?

Yes she would have been, baby born October.

 

[Bohemian]

I think the judge might be hesitant on sending her to jail for a short stint. The media would have a field day and KT might be given a hard time from the inmates considering. . :dunno:


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Her short stint could be up to 2 years long, according to what I have read. This is not her first rodeo for assault.

She’s no longer a PYT who may have made a silly mistake. She’s in her 30s and has a long rap sheet. The only thing that may save her from jail are her children, if they’re still in her care. If she doesn’t get a custodial sentence, I still don’t know if she’ll be walking out of the courtroom — if she does — with a smile on her face. Comes a time everyone has to pay the piper.

 

[they'll get you]

Yes she would have been, baby born October.

Is there a world drought on contraceptives?
Does the govt. still give $5,000 for having a baby. WTF.


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[Whàngarei]

If tj has just left gaol and is on parole, does that mean he cant leave the state of NSW.