Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #31

[they'll get you]

You believe he would just be placed back with that foster family and we would know nothing about it? Omg

Nobody could expect everything to slot into ‘normal’.
Firstly the whole family would have to be placed in a safe home elsewhere considering every man and his dog knows where their home is. Can you imagine the media camped outside hoping for a glimpse of William and the paranoia fearing another abduction.





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[they'll get you]

Just wipe the froth from the mouth :goodpost:

Rabid humour.



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[drsleuth]

It would be quite easy to abuse this system and earmark certain mothers if people want to circumvent the adoption process. When children are taken under 2 into the foster system there is the likelihood that the mother will try to conceive again to replace that child. As soon as she uses a public medical system, her record for having another child investigated by FaCs is already on the system and they are contacted to offer support etc through this system and start writing notes before the child is born. Under new policy, newborns mothers have 16 weeks to get their act together before they can remove the child and put it up for adoption. It is virtually impossible to be off the radar if you or the baby need medical support. Young unaddicted healthy mothers would be a target for whoever wants to make a profit or other benefits from a baby.MOO

BBM : And so it should be. It's unbelievable the amount of mothers I see in my line of work that have not had just 1 child removed but multiple children removed ( some at birth ) & still go on to conceive again & again ............:gaah: Every pregnancy is assessed on the mothers current situation & their is a huge focus on DV these days. Our whole hospital has been in "lockdown" awaiting FACS to arrive after a birth due the threats of the child being " stolen" etc

Are you saying that the "foster" family basically bought WT & his sister due to their perceived wealth?? I hope not!

 

[Whàngarei]

Nobody could expect everything to slot into ‘normal’.
Firstly the whole family would have to be placed in a safe home elsewhere considering every man and his dog knows where their home is. Can you imagine the media camped outside hoping for a glimpse of William and the paranoia fearing another abduction.





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[SouthAussie]

Thankyou you understood

Others could understand too, Whàngarei, if perhaps more than one sentence was posted. Perhaps offer a little clarity? Just a suggestion.

Nobody intentionally tries to take things the wrong way here.

Sleep asked for clarity. None was provided.

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[they'll get you]

You believe he would just be placed back with that foster family and we would know nothing about it? Omg

Normal would not live at that house.

IMO remember Shapelle Corby and the ridiculous circus that followed her, I imagine the media frenzy will be on steroids for that $$$$ picture of William.
I really hope they would give them the utmost privacy.
Ahghhh the human race


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[SouthAussie]

Normal would not live at that house.

IMO remember Shapelle Corby and the ridiculous circus that followed her, I imagine the media frenzy will be on steroids for that $$$$ picture of William.
I really hope they would give them the utmost privacy.
Ahghhh the human race


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There would be strict limitations on the media, tgy. William is a foster child. So is his sister. Look at the limitations on the media throughout this case.
I don't believe the media try to ruin a child's life. They know their boundaries in that way. With all children, fostered or not.

 

[they'll get you]

I’m feeling strangely positive about William.

Are we being prepared for something?
Oh I hope so.

If my wishes come true there will be one hellova nudie run !!


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[georgy girl]

Here I am, looking for that 'love' button again. Spot on SA, spot on

[quote name=&quot;Credulious&quot; post=13964262]I think they are conspirators themselves. If someone ignores the police statement, and moves to denigrate the integrity the FPs, then you have to question their motives.<br />
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What drives people to take this path? Vindictive individuals connected to the crime? Or associates of the family?[/QUOTE]<br />
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It is extremely vindictive to me. And if you could see the language that is used by these people, especially Alana Pearl Smith, you would see the very narrow level of education and overall knowledge and experience. It is all limited to the negative, to the bad. Alana Pearl Smith could use taking herself off to night school and learning how to write and use grammar and spell, for a start. She is an adult and her language is appalling. No excuses for that.<br />
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imo

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[frogwell]

I have posted in these threads, in the past, all the good stories I could find. You know very well that their circumstances are private. Which is why I wonder how anyone could possibly just look at the bad things that have been published, because a child has fallen outside the boundaries of that privacy.

Not sure how long you have been on this thread. If not as long as some, then there may be a bit of searching to do.

I've followed this particular case since 12/09/14 and I have been sleuthing solely on this case now on WS for 2 years and 10.5 months. I'm caught up and all good thanks. When members can only sprout good about one side and always find favourable excuses for any questions others have and continually protect their privacy except to sprout a nice rumour to back up an argument or put forward an accolade someone who shouldn't be sleuthed has achieved, which came about after WT disappeared, it seems they are kind of using the TOS to maintain a bias. MOO

 

[sosocurious]

I don't know if that is necessarily true. I don't mean to be controversial but there are plenty of stories on the net of children having next of kin, perfectly able to take them in and they are passed over frequently, and judges regularly passing over any other professionals that families bring into the court and taking the FaCs psychologist and case worker notes, which many people's experiences of them are dishonest or embellished. Someone on here regularly sites how her friend had to give up a lot of financial stability and savings to be awarded custody of her grandchildren. Just from hearing that, why did she have to pay a fortune just to show she is appropriate? Why wasn't it already evident? NC says her, BC and KT paid $4500 to try to fight it out in court. Lots of people have plenty going for them to take on relatives kids but they are overlooked. As a friend of mine said, Family court is a misnomer and it is all about who has the most money is the last one left standing. When a child becomes a foster child, they are worth a lot of money to a great many people and I am not talking about the careers. It has become evident in many countries that the foster system is a form of people trafficking. I don't think BC's or KT's extended family could ever have provided the type of life that the FF could, but then most families can't. I get a little tired of hearing all these assumptions about the FF based on absolutely nothing except what people project onto them. I've heard on here a lot that it was so wonderful that they opened their home to these 2 children who needed it. Maybe it met the needs of the FF to have an instant family, two children that they had from almost babies that they could raise as their own, call their own name and treat as closely as possible as if they had them biologically themselves. I have questions about where LT was before her brother was also removed and then the 2 of them placed together, and now here is the question I think I will get yelled at the most about but I can't hold it in anymore, were they earmarked for this couple all along? MOO

Frog facs after lengthy assessment leave many children in the care of grandparents or relatives but never take action to place the children under the ministers care. Because they are deemed to not be at risk of harm in their current living arrangement. Case closed until the next concern/event that most likely involves one or both parents.
Which is why many carers elect to go through the family court and seek parenting orders. Some do that without facs ever having to be involved...at a personal cost.
Every situation is different and unless you are privy to William families ... both bio and foster is seems a little harsh ...imo
We only have a glimpse of why William was removed - thanks to NC. Not forgetting his sister had also been removed.
He is with foster parents because that was deemed to be in Williams best interest.

Imo ... facs do not remove children unless there is a very significant and necessary reason. Actually, my position is that sometimes too many chances are given, before that occurs.
jmo

 

[they'll get you]

There would be strict limitations on the media, tgy. William is a foster child. So is his sister. Look at the limitations on the media throughout this case.
I don't believe the media try to ruin a child's life. They know their boundaries in that way. With all children, fostered or not.

I would hope so SA.
If I were the FF paranoia would outweigh the elation.

Honestly I’d be scared to let William play in the backyard in case a long distance lens was zeroed there or a drone might fly over not to mention the fear of peddos now.
Not only MSM but any civilian can obtain these things. I’d be sleeping with him with bars and alarms.

It may not occur but the paranoia considering what these poor people have gone through would be off the graph.

Nobody should experience this horror in their lives. Nobody.
I really feel for them


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[sosocurious]

I would hope so SA.
If I were the FF paranoia would outweigh the elation.

Honestly I&#8217;d be scared to let William play in the backyard in case a long distance lens was zeroed there or a drone might fly over not to mention the fear of peddos now.
Not only MSM but any civilian can obtain these things. I&#8217;d be sleeping with him with bars and alarms.

It may not occur but the paranoia considering what these poor people have gone through would be off the graph.

Nobody should experience this horror in their lives. Nobody.
I really feel for them


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[SouthAussie]

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I've followed this particular case since 12/09/14 and I have been sleuthing solely on this case now on WS for 2 years and 10.5 months. I'm caught up and all good thanks. When members can only sprout good about one side and always find favourable excuses for any questions others have and continually protect their privacy except to sprout a nice rumour to back up an argument or put forward an accolade someone who shouldn't be sleuthed has achieved, which came about after WT disappeared, it seems they are kind of using the TOS to maintain a bias. MOO

Then you should be able to find the posts I made about the good and decent foster parents out there just fine.

I did not create the TOS. If a person has been cleared, they have been cleared. End of story, as far as WS is concerned.

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[SouthAussie]

Imo ... facs do not remove children unless there is a very significant and necessary reason. Actually, my position is that sometimes too many chances are given, before that occurs.
jmo

WAY too many chances, in some/many cases. Look at poor little Chloe Valentine. That could have been William or his sister if they were left in that situation. It could be any of the well-cared for foster kids out there, if they had been left in their situation.

 

[sosocurious]

WAY too many chances, in some/many cases. Look at poor little Chloe Valentine. That could have been William or his sister if they were left in that situation. It could be any of the well-cared for foster kids out there, if they had been left in their situation.

Tanilla Warrick-Deaves

https://www.dailymercury.com.au/news/how-monster-was-able-kill-little-tanilla-warrick-d/2275877/

 

[frogwell]

Then you should be able to find the posts I made about the good and decent foster parents out there just fine.

I did not create the TOS. If a person has been cleared, they have been cleared. End of story, as far as WS is concerned.

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Not to be pedantic but I asked for stats of good foster carers, which you posted, were the silent majority. There are no such stats just like the stats of how many people want to adopt children in Australia. The only place I saw a figure for that there was no credible link, but it was put at over 1 million of the adult population want to adopt.

 

[SouthAussie]

Tanilla Warrick-Deaves

https://www.dailymercury.com.au/news/how-monster-was-able-kill-little-tanilla-warrick-d/2275877/

These poor unnamed children ...


An Adelaide magistrate has questioned how children under the supervision of South Australia's Department for Child Protection were left to live in squalor with their father.
The father was sentenced in the Port Adelaide Magistrates Court over the "rancid" and "putrid" living conditions at his Housing Trust home where his children stayed.

When police responded to a domestic disturbance at the father's address in March 2015, they discovered the filthy living conditions and removed the children.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-...qualor-despite-government-supervision/8871296

 

[frogwell]

WAY too many chances, in some/many cases. Look at poor little Chloe Valentine. That could have been William or his sister if they were left in that situation. It could be any of the well-cared for foster kids out there, if they had been left in their situation.

We truly don't know that WT or his sister were in an environment similar to Chloe Valentine's, the facts of his removal or his sisters are pretty thin on the ground. You do get that he is no longer anywhere to be found and that happened in the "well-cared for foster situation." It is like the facts of this case are just lost under a cloud of spin that people cannot see through anymore. IMO

 

[SouthAussie]

Not to be pedantic but I asked for stats of good foster carers, which you posted, were the silent majority. There are no such stats just like the stats of how many people want to adopt children in Australia. The only place I saw a figure for that there was no credible link, but it was put at over 1 million of the adult population want to adopt.

Maybe try sleuthing the stats yourself?

There are stats about how many children live in foster care. Almost 20,000 in 2013. Then look at the evidence of abuse in those situations. You may have to go through MSM reports. You will be able to determine the resulting majority-okay situation, as best as is able.


Today almost 20,000 children need foster parents, and they are increasingly hard to find.
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/backgroundbriefing/2013-11-17/5086254