Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #31

[Josie2014]

:dunno:

I am regional. I guess it depends on availability of part and the speed of courier.

I just wonder why Col felt the need to tell us that detailed information about a washing machine part. BS quote visit, which of course he stuffed up. It was the 9th not the 8th as Col suggested.
I mean if BS alibi was sound, does it really matter what day the part arrived?

Rodney Spedding said

Mr Spedding said his father had told him that he was supposed to repair a washing machine at the Kendall house where William disappeared from on September 12.
He said his father had coffee with his wife, Margaret, and then went to Laurieton Public School to watch his grandchildren in a ceremony on the morning William disappeared.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/wil...n-bill-spedding-says-son-20150429-1mvs9b.html

I am regional. Me too :happydance:

Mr Spedding said his father had told him that he was supposed to repair a washing machine at the Kendall house where William disappeared from on September 12.
He said his father had coffee with his wife, Margaret, and then went to Laurieton Public School to watch his grandchildren in a ceremony on the morning William disappeared.


If we believe the first sentence from RS, shouldn't we also believe the second?
If we don't believe the second, then should we believe the first?

 

[sosocurious]

I am regional. Me too :happydance:

Mr Spedding said his father had told him that he was supposed to repair a washing machine at the Kendall house where William disappeared from on September 12.
He said his father had coffee with his wife, Margaret, and then went to Laurieton Public School to watch his grandchildren in a ceremony on the morning William disappeared.


If we believe the first sentence from RS, shouldn't we also believe the second?
If we don't believe the second, then should we believe the first?

Fair enough.
Why on earth would BS not have told the police about second sentence, until after his house and office were raided?:thinking:
Well according to Col that is when the police learned of it - link it is a few pages back.

 

[purpleandgreen]

I don't mind any intelligent convo, frogwell. Even if I get frustrated at times that others don't seem to see the good in the world.

You do extremely well to stay calm, SA

 

[Josie2014]

Fair enough.
Why on earth would BS not have told the police about second sentence, until after his house and office were raided?:thinking:
Well according to Col that is when the police learned of it - link it is a few pages back.

I think too many have had a say. Too many reporters have tried to cover original info.

I don't feel I can trust anything from BS, CY or RS as reported in the media.

 

[SouthAussie]

Would love to see that link South Aussie but nevermind :giggle:

Found it. Found a couple of them, actually.


Mr Spedding had been due to fix the boy’s grandmother’s washing machine on the day the child went missing from her home, police sources have said.
http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw...7652fc9dc19f9cdaab2d68d2bdf18?from=public_rss

The 63-year-old became a focus of investigations after police learned he was due to fix a washing machine at William's grandmother's house about the time the toddler disappeared.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...s-disappearance-son-says-20150303-13tz7u.html

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Plus there are many, many other ones, here are just a few. You can Google and see several Google pages of similar links.
Due to the large variety of sources ... I don't believe this is an untruth or misunderstanding from MSM. .

Mr Spedding, 63, had been due to fix the washing machine at the grandmother’s house that day but never arrived.
http://www.news.com.au/national/fam...e/news-story/73350ebd1be700109fa5a5eb5bb06d0c

This comes as police returned to the 63-year-old's home on Monday for a third time this year after it was revealed that he was due to fix William's grandmother's washing machine around the time the boy vanished.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...appearance-William-Tyrrell-arrested-home.html

Mr Spedding was identified as a person of interest in the case after he was due to fix William's grandmother's washing machine around the time the toddler vanished.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/william-tyrrell-s-parents-beg-for-him-back

 

[Sillybilly]

from:
http://www.news.com.au/national/fam...e/news-story/73350ebd1be700109fa5a5eb5bb06d0c

Mr Spedding, 63, had been due to fix the washing machine at the grandmother’s house that day but never *arrived. He has told police that he had a missed call from the grandmother and could not contact her back.

<bbm>

Scheduled to be there but did not speak with Gma, then why did he not arrive as scheduled as most repairmen would do?

 

[SouthAussie]

It's a beautiful world with complex challenges and I often think there but for the grace of the Big Kahuna go I.

BBM

Personally, I think this is a well-worn cliche.

There are many, many people out there who have unfortunate childhoods, bad beginnings, terrible things happen to them ... as children, as adults.

But they pull themselves up out of the ashes and debris of that life/circumstance, educate themselves in whatever ways they can, and go forth to live fabulous, constructive lives, eventually. They do better than they have ever known before. Try harder than anyone ever expected of them. And make good.

A person can suffer, and then spend the rest of their time feeling bad for themselves. Or they can pick themselves up, and improve things for themselves. It is a choice.

.

 

[Camp Chair]

Apologies if this appears twice, computer froze

Hi everyone

Sorry if this has already posted, but the school award presentation alibi has bothered me from the start. It would appear the school (like many other of its kind) present special awards on last scheduled assembly of each school term. Below are sample pics of attendance in/out of hall at the LSS's main end of year awards gathering. These are usually parents/caregivers who have been invited to attend end of year awards day. The end of term awards usually draw those who would normally attend general assembly and (hopefully) parents/caregivers of kids receiving term awards. Just going on my experience with small sized state primary schools, the end of year 'main awards' pull a much bigger crowd of supporters. All IMO.

I have a hard time understanding how nobody, as far as I am aware, has been able to confirm BS's attendance looking at size & setting:

(Click through to page 3) > http://www.laurieton-p.schools.nsw.e...on-day-primary

 

[Lou Lou]

Hi everyone
Sorry if this has already posted, but the school award presentation alibi has bothered me from the start. It would appear the school (like many other of its kind) present special awards on last scheduled assembly of each school term. Below are sample pics of attendance in/out of hall at the LSS's main end of year awards gathering. These are usually parents/caregivers who have been invited to attend end of year awards day. The end of term awards usually draw those who would normally attend general assembly and (hopefully) parents/caregivers receiving term awards. Just going on my experience with small sized state primary schools, the end of year 'main awards' pull a much bigger crowd of supporters. All IMO.

I have a hard time understanding how nobody, as far as I am aware, has been able to confirm BS's attendance looking at size & setting:

(Click through to page 3) > http://www.laurieton-p.schools.nsw.edu.au/gallery/presentation-day-primary

I have read- and re read every msm article and cannot find one where Police state BS was Not at the school or coffee shop- only ones where they claim to have spoken to people (like the worker at the coffee shop) that can't remember seeing him. Even the coffee shop worker stated she "hadn't seen him in a while", but this was months after the time of WT disappearance, so it would have been a while since the time of his alleged visit.

A relative claimed they had receipts- https://www.theaustralian.com.au/ne...d/news-story/52d80cfbee859664e04a5e75d2839136 and so far, I haven't seen anywhere where police refute that fact..just media speculation.

Can someone please show me a link where investigators have stated they investigated the alibi and found it to be false?
Would help me greatly to understand why everyone is certain he was telling furfies about his whereabouts and was definitely not having coffee or at the school at the time.
TIA. :tyou:

 

[SouthAussie]

Can someone please show me a link where investigators have stated they investigated the alibi and found it to be false?
Would help me greatly to understand why everyone is certain he was telling furfies about his whereabouts and was definitely not having coffee or at the school at the time.
TIA. :tyou:

Pretty sure that he would not still be a POI, if he had been cleared by his alibis. I am sure this has been mentioned multiple times before. Maybe you missed them.

Soso posted a recent link, from February 2018, showing that he is still a POI.

 

[Lou Lou]

Pretty sure that he would not still be a POI, if he had been cleared by his alibis. I am sure this has been mentioned multiple times before. Maybe you missed them.

Soso posted a recent link, from Fenruary, showing that he is still a POI.

Person of interest means having a connection or knowledge of the case- not necessarily a suspect. That's why I wonder if there is proof that he was at those places, but remains a poi for other reasons?

I did heard the speculation on here- just wanted to know if there was anything to substantiate.

 

[louisepiglet]

I think too many have had a say. Too many reporters have tried to cover original info.

I don't feel I can trust anything from BS, CY or RS as reported in the media.

I really don't fully trust what is reported in MSM.

 

[sosocurious]

Person of interest means having a connection or knowledge of the case- not necessarily a suspect. That's why I wonder if there is proof that he was at those places, but remains a poi for other reasons?

I did heard the speculation on here- just wanted to know if there was anything to substantiate.

The friend said Mr Spedding and his wife then walked across the road to Laurieton Public School to attend a presentation for their grandson.

He told Daily Mail Australia Mr Spedding said he had also attended the presentation with a family friend who was taking photos.

Mr Spedding has asked her to review her pictures to see if he is in any of them, the friend said. On September 12, following the presentation, Mr Spedding went to a job in nearby Dunbogan before ringing William's grandmother again.

A spokesman for Laurieton Public School said he had spoken to police, but declined to comment further.

: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nsic-experts-digging-search-abducted-toddler-

You know these people talking to the media on BS behalf. They are certainly saying he (BS) said. BS told them ..
No wonder he did the video to clarify and their mistake - 9th not the 8th.
Why didn't he clarify what else they had said to the media....odd.

What I do not understand is why he or Marg during their one and only interview. Didn't say we are both near a nervous breakdown We were at the school and having coffee that morning.

imo

 

[sosocurious]

I really don't fully trust what is reported in MSM.

It is all we have. It doesn't hurt to pick it to pieces and try and join the dots.
There must be some truth in there somewhere - albeit sometimes very frustrating and cryptic...imo

 

[sosocurious]

I have read- and re read every msm article and cannot find one where Police state BS was Not at the school or coffee shop- only ones where they claim to have spoken to people (like the worker at the coffee shop) that can't remember seeing him. Even the coffee shop worker stated she "hadn't seen him in a while", but this was months after the time of WT disappearance, so it would have been a while since the time of his alleged visit.

A relative claimed they had receipts- https://www.theaustralian.com.au/ne...d/news-story/52d80cfbee859664e04a5e75d2839136 and so far, I haven't seen anywhere where police refute that fact..just media speculation.

Can someone please show me a link where investigators have stated they investigated the alibi and found it to be false?
Would help me greatly to understand why everyone is certain he was telling furfies about his whereabouts and was definitely not having coffee or at the school at the time.
TIA. :tyou:

So what could the inconsistencies be?
He changed his story?
He changed his time frame. Because it was said in the media early in the piece that he was in Dunbogan in the morning. That was really confusing.
Then to learn later on that another poi was there as well...oh boy.

What he told the police versus what he told others? :thinking:

As they checked out everyone&#8217;s statements about where they were on that Friday, detectives allegedly found some inconsistencies in what Mr Spedding told them which led them to raid his former pawnbroking office in Laurieton and his home at Bonny Hills this week.
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/n...n/news-story/47301cd52d7e0c838fcee97942f05b1a

 

[kiwi50]

Apologies if this appears twice, computer froze

Hi everyone

Sorry if this has already posted, but the school award presentation alibi has bothered me from the start. It would appear the school (like many other of its kind) present special awards on last scheduled assembly of each school term. Below are sample pics of attendance in/out of hall at the LSS's main end of year awards gathering. These are usually parents/caregivers who have been invited to attend end of year awards day. The end of term awards usually draw those who would normally attend general assembly and (hopefully) parents/caregivers of kids receiving term awards. Just going on my experience with small sized state primary schools, the end of year 'main awards' pull a much bigger crowd of supporters. All IMO.

I have a hard time understanding how nobody, as far as I am aware, has been able to confirm BS's attendance looking at size & setting:

(Click through to page 3) > http://www.laurieton-p.schools.nsw.e...on-day-primary

Thank you!!
That is exactly how I imagine the Assembly would look.
Cant imagine that not a single person saw him.
If he had been there HE could have told the Police who was sitting next to him, behind him etc. He must have exchanged a glance at least with someone.

 

[SouthAussie]

I am regional.Me too :happydance:

Mr Spedding said his father had told him that he was supposed to repair a washing machine at the Kendall house where William disappeared from on September 12.
He said his father had coffee with his wife, Margaret, and then went to Laurieton Public School to watch his grandchildren in a ceremony on the morning William disappeared.


If we believe the first sentence from RS, shouldn't we also believe the second?
If we don't believe the second, then should we believe the first?

BBM There is always a little truth in a lie. It is what makes the lie believable.

 

[Credulious]

He sounds like someone who has been doing it a long time. Sounds like a well versed crime form someone who has been training for a long time.

BBM There is always a little truth in a lie. It is what makes the lie believable.

 

[SouthAussie]

He sounds like someone who has been doing it a long time. Sounds like a well versed crime form someone who has been training for a long time.

With the feeling that I have had about William's disappearance from very near the beginning, I wasn't too shocked to hear about Spedding's (alleged) historical crimes. Disgusted, yes. Shocked, no.

As he managed to get through the heat of that, and convince some people around him that he was not involved in those crimes, I am sure he is a most accomplished liar.

Feel pretty sure that the police know that, too. From back then, and from now.

 

[SouthAussie]

Fair enough.
Why on earth would BS not have told the police about second sentence, until after his house and office were raided?:thinking:
Well according to Col that is when the police learned of it - link it is a few pages back.

Like you, I remember the only thing Spedding saying about that day, initially, was that he went to Dunbogan.

Then much later we learned that he was just all over Laurieton that morning ... his office, the cafe, the school. Spent a good couple of hours there, at least.

I wonder if it took more than a few nights of pillowtalk to work out where he was that morning?

I wonder if the Dunbogan customer did not want to go along with his need for a morning alibi? Or if he just couldn't recall that morning initially? Stalled giving the police an answer on that, till Margaret helped him to remember.

.