Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #31

[Credulious]

nobody can because it hasn't been stated by the police.
that's my problem with the knife throwing around here with spedding.
there is nothing solid that has been released on him.
I can not take what gets printed by journalists as fact.
most of the time they are wrong and barking up the wrong tree.
for example today I have seen reports by channels seven and nine conflicting stories about the little girl killed by the dog.
one reckons she was bitten by the family dog another reckons she was out in the pram walking with her mum attacked by a loose dog.????
huge discrepancy within "reputable" sources.
the early reports about spedding I think including the original alibi can be taken with a grain of salt.
jmho

added later. I know how much everyone wants it to be him.
but you can throw mud..... doesn't make it stick .
there has to be much more on him that we don't know or the case is in big big trouble.

Do you have one piece of information that will omit the POI from case apart from immediate family alibi?

 

[Credulious]

Just one piece of solid evidence to rule out involvement.
Being mindful an anonymous tip drew police to him.

 

[k-mac]

The historical court cases might.

Who do you think the mud should be aimed at, out of curiosity? Am always interested in different perspectives & theories.

mud doesn't belong in sleuthing.

the point I'm making is missed.

of course spedding should be discussed and picked apart. everyone connected to the case should be. including the families involved. (which is off the table here.)

things are taken for fact because its in an article a journo wrote.

its all allowed if its in msm travels etc.
the point was original reporting doesn't necessarily prove spedding was lying about his alibi. that's the information the media feed us. is it true .....who knows???

like the little girl killed by the dog yesterday example . early media isn't reliable.

 

[k-mac]

Just one piece of solid evidence to rule out involvement.
Being mindful an anonymous tip drew police to him.

i cant.
but this is the sort of stuff I'm talking about.

Video: William Tyrrell's parents make emotional plea for his return(ABC News)
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[h=2]June 11, 2015[/h]

Newspaper reports say that a Spider-Man toy was found in the work van of person of interest William "Bill" Spedding during investigations into the William's disappearance.New South Wales Police could not confirm the discovery or comment other than to say police "continue to appeal for any information that may assist with the case".

reports like this.
and suddenly wow ....the man has a Spider-Man figure in his car. wow he must have done it.
it was in the report.

that's all I'm getting at.


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[they'll get you]

OT. Since I did my multi-quotes, every time I try to reply with quote all of the previous multi quotes come up. How can I get rid of them? Please help. TIA

Yes that happened to me....go back and find the quotes and untick the quote thingy.
Good luck hon.

 

[Credulious]

mud doesn't belong in sleuthing.

the point I'm making is missed.

of course spedding should be discussed and picked apart. everyone connected to the case should be. including the families involved. (which is off the table here.)

things are taken for fact because its in an article a journo wrote.

its all allowed if its in msm travels etc.
the point was original reporting doesn't necessarily prove spedding was lying about his alibi. that's the information the media feed us. is it true .....who knows???

like the little girl killed by the dog yesterday example . early media isn't reliable.

You would think if a journo wrote something defamatory then that would leave them open to civil action?

 

[k-mac]

You would think if a journo wrote something defamatory then that would lesve them open to civil action.

misquoting and fact twisting has become normal part of journalism these days.
ive given you an example for on this day.... TODAY reporting.
the little girl and the dog.

 

[Credulious]

Thanks SA..that is what I was talking about. Early msn reports.

Mr Spedding then went across the road to Laurieton Public School, where one of his grandchildren was receiving a principal's award.

Earlier in the day, Mr Spedding also had some work in nearby Dunbogan, Colin said.

Detectives visited the waterside hamlet on Wednesday and spoke with locals.

Mr Spedding's van was spotted in William's grandmother's street in the week after he disappeared and as hundreds of volunteers scoured bush land for a trace of the toddler dressed in a Spider-Man suit.

Colin confirmed Mr Spedding had returned to the grandmother's home to fix the washing machine.

: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/aap/article-2921961/Man-free-home-Tyrell-search.html#ixzz58ja1fanB

Seasoned criminals tend to be well oiled machines when it comes to timelines.

They appear leave the smallest windows to cover their tracks.

 

[sosocurious]

i cant.
but this is the sort of stuff I'm talking about.

Video: William Tyrrell's parents make emotional plea for his return(ABC News)
​

[h=2]June 11, 2015[/h]

Newspaper reports say that a Spider-Man toy was found in the work van of person of interest William "Bill" Spedding during investigations into the William's disappearance.New South Wales Police could not confirm the discovery or comment other than to say police "continue to appeal for any information that may assist with the case".

reports like this.
and suddenly wow ....the man has a Spider-Man figure in his car. wow he must have done it.
it was in the report.

that's all I'm getting at.


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Detectives questioned Spedding’s wife Margaret about where the toy came from and she reportedly told them it was given to her husband by one of the children they cared for.
“(The child) left it in the van for (Mr Spedding) to keep him company when he was driving,” the Daily Telegraph reported.
Mrs Spedding said she believed the toy got police attention because of the costume he was wearing when he went missing.

http://www.news.com.au/national/cri...l/news-story/3989267ca96437cf06aba11cc6eb5935

Who gave the media this detail .. I wonder?

 

[k-mac]

Detectives questioned Spedding’s wife Margaret about where the toy came from and she reportedly told them it was given to her husband by one of the children they cared for.
“(The child) left it in the van for (Mr Spedding) to keep him company when he was driving,” the Daily Telegraph reported.
Mrs Spedding said she believed the toy got police attention because of the costume he was wearing when he went missing.

http://www.news.com.au/national/cri...l/news-story/3989267ca96437cf06aba11cc6eb5935

Who gave the media this detail .. I wonder?

all "reportedly" stated.....
:gaah:

 

[Credulious]

Thanks SA..that is what I was talking about. Early msn reports.

Mr Spedding then went across the road to Laurieton Public School, where one of his grandchildren was receiving a principal's award.

Earlier in the day, Mr Spedding also had some work in nearby Dunbogan, Colin said.

Detectives visited the waterside hamlet on Wednesday and spoke with locals.

Mr Spedding's van was spotted in William's grandmother's street in the week after he disappeared and as hundreds of volunteers scoured bush land for a trace of the toddler dressed in a Spider-Man suit.

Colin confirmed Mr Spedding had returned to the grandmother's home to fix the washing machine.

: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/aap/article-2921961/Man-free-home-Tyrell-search.html#ixzz58ja1fanB

What time are assembly's held for principals awards?

8.30 to 9.30?

"We are not suggesting any of these vehicles are linked to William's disappearance but we want to eliminate those cars from our inquiries."

https://www.macleayargus.com.au/sto...-car-seized-in-william-tyrrell-investigation/

 

[Credulious]

Given the family associations between all parties, certain POIs would have known if grandma said family were coming, that they knew William would be present.
How that was communicated, we don't know.
That could be any number of means including, my family is coming, how long will the part take to arrive?

There is many reiterations I know, but this is about "drilling down" to points of knowledge.

Any evidence that would omit the POIs presence welcome.

Source:http://www.news.com.au/national/cri...y/news-story/a793c87d9162d7b7ddacc7ebb3da0028

 

[Credulious]

misquoting and fact twisting has become normal part of journalism these days.
ive given you an example for on this day.... TODAY reporting.
the little girl and the dog.

I see a very big difference between a girl and a dog, and the defamatory comment of a POI in an alleged pedophile charge.

One is an early reporting error or guess, the other proscribed potential slander and defamation of an innocent man.

Surely a journo runs the sub-justice slander of an innocent man past the lawyers before publishing in a pedophile case?

 

[Credulious]

So who owns a late model charcoal vehicle that has not been owned up and or reported to police that was stationary in front of a white station-wagon on the day opposite FGMs house?

What cars were seen side-on at the tennis club camera?

Ms Loweke is living with Mr Jones’ brother-in-law and she personally knows Bill Spedding, another person who has been questioned by police in relation to the disappearance. Mr Spedding has released a video denying any involvement in the disappearance.
Police were also interested in Ms Loweke’s application to the Department of Housing, in which she requested a three-bedroom home she wanted to share with William’s grandmother.
http://www.news.com.au/national/wil...t/news-story/eadf46724616876676e261529fa6f3f8

 

[louisepiglet]

nobody can because it hasn't been stated by the police.
that's my problem with the knife throwing around here with spedding.
there is nothing solid that has been released on him.
I can not take what gets printed by journalists as fact.
most of the time they are wrong and barking up the wrong tree.
for example today I have seen reports by channels seven and nine conflicting stories about the little girl killed by the dog.
one reckons she was bitten by the family dog another reckons she was out in the pram walking with her mum attacked by a loose dog.????
huge discrepancy within "reputable" sources.
the early reports about spedding I think including the original alibi can be taken with a grain of salt.
jmho

added later. I know how much everyone wants it to be him.
but you can throw mud..... doesn't make it stick .
there has to be much more on him that we don't know or the case is in big big trouble.

You put into words exactly what I am thinking.

 

[Credulious]

Its like 3 degrees of separation in this crime, but no one apart from immediate family sighted the washing machine repair man at the cafe nor the school for a principles award of a grandchild.

Being mindful some of these people live some distance away from FGM.

In this small area, there must be at least 700 jobs a year across the public in a small town.

We just need one solid bit of evidence to omit him from involvement.

 

[purpleandgreen]

Sorry, the word mud didn't originate with me. I was quoting your earlier post. However, there are some very muddy situations that have been uncovered along the way in this case with a whole cast of players.

If you read back through the threads I know you'll find that we've discussed our frustrations with differences in reporting in this case, I'm sure. Many times. However, what hasn't been reported on by anyone at all to my knowledge (and I'm happy to be proven wrong) is that it's been proven that Spedding was at the school assembly. And so far his attendance at the cafe has really only been confirmed by good ole Col.

It's all back there in the threads for you - lots of lengthy discussions and links, but as I don't have the time to go back and find them, I'll just put IMO.

Sorry, I didn't include the quote. This was in reply to k-mac's post #704

 

[kiwi50]

If BS had been at the assembly, im sure someone would have been more than happy to confirm. If i was him and i knew it had been confirmed i dont think it would have been unreasonable to ask the police or the school to admit it.
Instead we have silence, not a soul to put their hand up and say they saw him.
IF he was there surely someone would have the courage to defend him.
I dont believe he was there, the silence is deafening.

 

[Credulious]

"They've done it!"

 

[purpleandgreen]

What? Please share!

"They've done it!"