Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #32

[frogwell]

I am really struggling with this, too, tgy.

When Allison's parents and adult family had any mention in MSM, it was okay by all if we discussed it.
When little Eeva Dorendahl's mum had any mention in MSM, it was okay by all if we discussed it.
When Karen Ristevski's daughter and birth family had any mention in MSM, it was okay by all if we discussed it.

Those are just a few examples, there are many more.

With great sympathy for their loss I imagine, and acknowledgment that they are victims too.

 

[Karinna]

“William Tyrrell’s mother charged for spitting on police officer”.

A Shiela spitting horizontally is something to be admired for sure.

http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw...r/news-story/cadf3f99e00570b0539f9648d2d8629f


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Yes it is currently going through litigation, and is being dealt with. She will have her day in court. Still would like to know what really happened to bring it all about though? The whole truth of the matter?

 

[they'll get you]

The link didn't really prove anything to me. The kid looked straight down the barrel of the camera and roared. It didn't disprove anything. Maybe I'm missing something. IMO

Zoom in. He shook his head and rolled his eyes. For generations that’s what kids have done to emphasis the roar. Sometimes they’ll even claw their hands. Remember?





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[sleepinoz]

With great sympathy for their loss I imagine, and acknowledgment that they are victims too.

Much more sympathy that the FF receive from some here. There were Williams Family. IMO

 

[Karinna]

It wasn't what you said I was questioning, it's why you said 'we don't get a say' and now "we don't get to call the shots". We don't get to do that in the investigation either, but we discuss it.

I don't think I can make it any clearer that I'm not questioning your opinion, I'm asking why.

Why we don't get a say? Because we don't in what happens with KT. And i really can't make myself any clearer than that.

 

[SouthAussie]

With great sympathy for their loss I imagine, and acknowledgment that they are victims too.

It is not our fault that they did good things, and were not in MSM for criminal acts. If they were, I am sure it would have come under just as much discussion.

Not to mention that Sarah Ristevski has not always been spoken of with sympathy or in a good light.

.

 

[they'll get you]

Oh don't be so hard on yourself, you do a great job of ignoring certain bullying behaviour. IMO

Can you spit horizontally and how far?

I’ll have to practice.


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[frogwell]

Much more sympathy that the FF receive from some here. There were Williams Family.

I beg to differ. We can't discuss the FF full stop. We know nothing about them, it is hidden. They are cleared, as are the bios.

 

[SouthAussie]

It wasn't what you said I was questioning, it's why you said 'we don't get a say' and now "we don't get to call the shots". We don't get to do that in the investigation either, but we discuss it.

I don't think I can make it any clearer that I'm not questioning your opinion, I'm asking why.

I get what you are saying, sleep. Why the stating of the obvious.

 

[sleepinoz]

I beg to differ. We can't discuss the FF full stop. We know nothing about them, it is hidden. They are cleared, as are the bios.

They are allowed to be mentioned, we are not allowed to discuss them. There is a difference.

 

[frogwell]

Can you spit horizontally and how far?

I’ll have to practice.


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I think you can see that I can't. I always end up slagging on myself. :innocent:

 

[Hbayne]

Yes it is currently going through litigation, and is being dealt with. She will have her day in court. Still would like to know what really happened to bring it all about though? The whole truth of the matter?

I repeat an earlier post Karinna, you keep saying KT,s problems court cases ect have nothing to do with Williams disappearence but you keep commenting on it

 

[they'll get you]

Much more sympathy that the FF receive from some here. There were Williams Family. IMO

Absolutely sleep!

Which ones would be seeking professional help and which ones would be self medicating.


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[sosocurious]

Maybe i should of made myself clearer by stating we don't get to call the shots or make the decisions that pertain to legal matters in KT's life, is what i meant by we don't get a say in it. Hope that helps.

and nor should we....imo

But I do agree with this

NSW Community Services Minister Linda Burney said children's wellbeing was everybody's business.

"It's not an issue where you can just walk away and say - I don't want to be involved," Ms Burney said.
"But we're talking about children that are being hurt.
"What we're really requiring not only among government agencies but also across the community is a real cultural shift about taking responsibility for all children in your neighbourhood, in your family."

http://www.news.com.au/national/chi...y/news-story/2aca9945f9e577d7cfaf87910da6ef5c

The article back in 2010.

Do I agree with Karlie being splashed all over the media - not really.
But that door was opened when an advocate thought it important and necessary that the public be told.
Yes I know she has been cleared by Jubelin of any involvement. But that does not mean others with links to her in someway have been...imo

 

[Karinna]

They are allowed to be mentioned, we are not allowed to discuss them. There is a difference.

Bumping from what the mod. says in Thread #1
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VICTIM FRIENDLY

Attacking or bashing a victim is not allowed. Discussing victim behavior, good or bad is fine, but do so in a civil and constructive way, and only when such behavior is relevant to the case.

 

[Karinna]

and nor should we....imo

But I do agree with this

NSW Community Services Minister Linda Burney said children's wellbeing was everybody's business.

"It's not an issue where you can just walk away and say - I don't want to be involved," Ms Burney said.
"But we're talking about children that are being hurt.
"What we're really requiring not only among government agencies but also across the community is a real cultural shift about taking responsibility for all children in your neighbourhood, in your family."

http://www.news.com.au/national/chi...y/news-story/2aca9945f9e577d7cfaf87910da6ef5c

The article back in 2010.

Do I agree with Karlie being splashed all over the media - not really.
But that door was opened when an advocate thought it important and necessary that the public be told.
Yes I know she has been cleared by Jubelin of any involvement. But that does not mean others with links to her in someway have been...imo

BBM, And the same could be said of others involved with the FF too.

 

[they'll get you]

It is not our fault that they did good things, and were not in MSM for criminal acts. If they were, I am sure it would have come under just as much discussion.

Not to mention that Sarah Ristevski has not always been spoken of with sympathy or in a good light.

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Which roof would you rather stay under SA?
Me finks I know the answer.
I could be taught horizontal spitting in 5 minutes flat.


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[Hbayne]

The link didn't really prove anything to me. The kid looked straight down the barrel of the camera and roared. It didn't disprove anything. Maybe I'm missing something. IMO

“The kid” would that be William

 

[they'll get you]

Why we don't get a say? Because we don't in what happens with KT. And i really can't make myself any clearer than that.

Please tell me all the achievements in the bio lives.
Fair dinkum I really need to know as I can’t find anything on google except a horizontal achievement.


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[frogwell]

It is not our fault that they did good things, and were not in MSM for criminal acts. If they were, I am sure it would have come under just as much discussion.

OK, so you equate them with not being in MSM as having done good things. They are protected by at least 2 govt. departments, any discrepencies in reporting around their stories have been cleaned up by MSM ad nauseum. I child in care's suspected homicide investigation appears compromised by other parties interests and over three years after WT has been missing, people want to talk about the cleared dysfunctional parents who were hundreds of kilometres away from him when he went missing about how they bounce from one disaster to the next today. And the people who keep pumping that information to the public are who? The police who are harnessing the MSM as part of their investigation? That is why it is valid to keep talking about KT? This is police stratergy?