Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #34

[Hbayne]

The dollar sign in eyes emoji seems fitting

 

[Jennifer17]

What has been published against him which is defamation? Has he not been charged with sexual assault of very young children?
Has he not been named publicly by the police as a person of interest?
Maybe he should be suing the police force if he is so sure that he is innocent of these things, not the press who reports charges before the court or police investigations.

 

[Hbayne]

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What has been published against him which is defamation? Has he not been charged with sexual assault of very young children?
Has he not been named publicly by the police as a person of interest?
Maybe he should be suing the police force if he is so sure that he is innocent of these things, not the press who reports charges before the court or police investigations.

were my exact thoughts too. Although yes he has been charged he hasn’t as far as we know been convicted and one of the articles someone here found had one of the publications saying he was a convicted paedophile. If only they’d used the word alleged !!!

 

[frogwell]

29 Jun 9:30 am 2018/00164266 William Spedding v NEWS LIFE MEDIA PTY LIMITED Civil Supreme Court Directions (Defamation List)

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  Justice L McCallum

Supreme Court Sydney

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29 Jun 9:30 am 2018/00091447 William Spedding v Dailymail.com Australia Pty Ltd Civil Supreme Court Directions (Defamation List)

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  Justice L McCallum

Supreme Court Sydney

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29 Jun 9:30 am 2018/00091441 William Spedding v Nationwide News Pty Ltd Civil Supreme Court Directions (Defamation List)

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  Justice L McCallum

Supreme Court Sydney

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[Hbayne]

29 Jun 9:30 am 2018/00164266 William Spedding v NEWS LIFE MEDIA PTY LIMITED Civil Supreme Court Directions (Defamation List)

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  Justice L McCallum

Supreme Court Sydney

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Court 11D Queens Square Sydney -
29 Jun 9:30 am 2018/00091447 William Spedding v Dailymail.com Australia Pty Ltd Civil Supreme Court Directions (Defamation List)

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  Justice L McCallum

Supreme Court Sydney

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Court 11D Queens Square Sydney -
29 Jun 9:30 am 2018/00091441 William Spedding v Nationwide News Pty Ltd Civil Supreme Court Directions (Defamation List)

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  Justice L McCallum

Supreme Court Sydney

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Court 11D Queens Square Sydney

Same date and time as the one soso posted on last page against dailymail. Are they all one and the same ?

 

[sosocurious]

Same date and time as the one soso posted on last page against dailymail. Are they all one and the same ?

Different case numbers.
Maybe the same article or article revisited, though.
imo

 

[Hbayne]

Different case numbers.
Maybe the same article or article revisited, though.
imo

So confusing

 

[sosocurious]

So confusing

Yes it is confusing.
Assuming this is about his character being damaged, and that resulting in a loss of income.
Or as his son said. "I feel very upset, it's upsetting. The media attention has killed his business, and it's affected his livelihood."

Bill Spedding has 'no link' to William Tyrrell's disappearance, son says
3 March 2015

I would have thought this would have had more impact on his earning capacity.

Spedding was granted bail on a number of conditions including that he be of good behaviour, not leave NSW, not contact any crown witnesses, and reside at an address on the north coast.
A condition was also imposed that he not be in contact with any person under age of 18.

Bill Spedding granted bail over child sex charges
19 Jun 2015
imo

 

[SouthAussie]

Different case numbers.
Maybe the same article or article revisited, though.
imo

The only one showing any caselaw is case #2018/00091441 Spedding vs Nationwide News. The one that will go to trial. I have searched in the caselaw, there is nothing else there at this point in time.

Hard to say what the Directions are for the other two cases, #2018/00091447 and #2018/00164266.

There is something about the case numbers. Notice how two are of the shorter 91XXX variety, and the other one is a longer number. It may distinguish between the types of cases.

 

[frogwell]

I think some of the pursuit of damages from media might be to have them admit specific police source tip offs as a way to legitimise some of the things they have written. It may be a way to have the police as a source on record and then he can go after them for different things...IMO. Both Colin Youngberry and MS have alluded to the timing when they or BS are free to speak, from memory it will be a "bombshell" and "fireworks"

 

[SouthAussie]

What has been published against him which is defamation? Has he not been charged with sexual assault of very young children?
Has he not been named publicly by the police as a person of interest?

The crux of the matter in the case law seems to be .... "The single imputation specified in respect of each matter complained of is that the plaintiff is a paedophile. That imputation is alleged to arise from a combination of features of each article".

It seems that he doesn't like any insinuation that he may be a pedo, with regard to William's case, because he feels that it makes him look guilty.

I wonder how much the historical child sex charges laid a month after the early-March articles in question, the prior FACS investigation and consequential removal of his grandchildren, and the later bail conditions requiring that he stay away from persons under 18, will come into play in the defamation trial.

 

[SouthAussie]

I think some of the pursuit of damages from media might be to have them admit specific police source tip offs as a way to legitimise some of the things they have written. It may be a way to have the police as a source on record and then he can go after them for different things...IMO. Both Colin Youngberry and MS have alluded to the timing when they or BS are free to speak, from memory it will be a "bombshell" and "fireworks"

That may be his hope, who knows. But from the caselaw it seems that it is the combination of police searching for a deceased child, pics of the van with the 'S' removed, and the 'invitation' for others to wonder why the 'S' isn't there ... these are the things, in combination, that he thinks makes people wonder about him.

Though I think it is the removal of the grandchildren and the historical child sex charges that make people wonder about him.

 

[SouthAussie]

....... not the press who reports charges before the court or police investigations.

I agree. There is a huge issue about stifling our freedom of speech in the eyes of the media and many others. When MSM are just reporting on the things that they see, why shouldn't we be told about it?

There can be some real dangers in stifling freedom of speech. Part of the reason that the police allowed the names of Spedding, Jones, Bickford and Nichols out there could be to warn the public for the sake of their children. We know a little about these persons. There may be a lot more that we do not know.

 

[Hbayne]

That may be his hope, who knows. But from the caselaw it seems that it is the combination of police searching for a deceased child, pics of the van with the 'S' removed, and the 'invitation' for others to wonder why the 'S' isn't there ... these are the things, in combination, that he thinks makes people wonder about him.

Though I think it is the removal of the grandchildren and the historical child sex charges that make people wonder about him.

Yes SA and he has not been cleared as a poi as far as we know in Williams case .And that is from taskforce Roseanne , not media. Until he is cleared I have no sympathy, same with the charges of sex crimes against not one but it seems a few . I will be the first to apologise on here on all accounts if BS has nothing to do with any of these crimes. In some way I almost hope he isn’t and if I didn’t have in the back of my mind the serious things he has been accused of I would feel incredibly sorry for him.
I just can’t see it panning out as him being not involved in some way or other

 

[Jennifer17]

I can't see how he has a chance of winning any damages against his good reputation. He has no good reputation to protect. Oh, well yeah, I may have interfered with a few or more little girls, but you have impugned me for even thinking that I may have done it again.

 

[Hbayne]

Yes SA and he has not been cleared as a poi as far as we know in Williams case .And that is from taskforce Roseanne , not media. Until he is cleared I have no sympathy, same with the charges of sex crimes against not one but it seems a few . I will be the first to apologise on here on all accounts if BS has nothing to do with any of these crimes. In some way I almost hope he isn’t and if I didn’t have in the back of my mind the serious things he has been accused of I would feel incredibly sorry for him.
I just can’t see it panning out as him being not involved in some way or other

and to add to that- deleted phone log, sketchy alibi, toy in his car .... the list goes on, ex brother in law to one of Australia’s worst paedophiles, whom he lived with at some point

 

[Bohemian]

I think some of the pursuit of damages from media might be to have them admit specific police source tip offs as a way to legitimise some of the things they have written. It may be a way to have the police as a source on record and then he can go after them for different things...IMO. Both Colin Youngberry and MS have alluded to the timing when they or BS are free to speak, from memory it will be a "bombshell" and "fireworks"

BBM.

Or to pin the tip-offs on one particular police officer, ie; DCI Gary Jubelin. Good luck to BS and his lawyer with that one.

 

[Hbayne]

One of the major things that sticks out to me is the child heard distressed and crying from the caravan park . Owner or manager said there were no children staying there at the time . Will try to find Link but it’s always been to me a very questionable point
Caravan park searched in the hunt for missing toddler William Tyrell

 

[Jennifer17]

One of the major things that sticks out to me is the child heard distressed and crying from the caravan park . Owner or manager said there were no children staying there at the time . Will try to find Link but it’s always been to me a very questionable point
Caravan park searched in the hunt for missing toddler William Tyrell

But the owner of the caravan park should have known who was staying there. but there has been no more information on that.

 

[frogwell]

That may be his hope, who knows. But from the caselaw it seems that it is the combination of police searching for a deceased child, pics of the van with the 'S' removed, and the 'invitation' for others to wonder why the 'S' isn't there ... these are the things, in combination, that he thinks makes people wonder about him.

Though I think it is the removal of the grandchildren and the historical child sex charges that make people wonder about him.

Yes, but were the articles in question prior to charges being laid for historical crimes? If so then it was all about how things were percived in relation to WT's disappearance.