Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #35

[frogwell]

They have differed, haven't they?

Police dogs were brought in and they managed to find William’s scent, but only within the boundaries of the backyard.
The boy no one can find

This one is interesting given the recent searches.

Police dogs have failed to pick up any scent trails to suggest William wandered off into the dense, hilly bushland opposite his grandparents’ house.

We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph

"The boy no one could find" is the only article I have found that states the scent was found in the yard. Now to Love is a section of The Australian Women's Weekly where more indepth stories of interest are covered. I have noticed that the PR company for the Official Where's William Campaign have accessed this space a few times and I found the following article interesting about the journalist Michael Sheather who wrote, "The boy no one can find"

Five Minutes With... Michael Sheather, associate editor of The Australian Women’s Weekly

 

[Deleted member 102539]

I'm well aware WT's scent stopped at the boundary. I've followed this case from day dot and was apart of WS threads way back.

I'm pointing out for the confusion Chloexx had and many other's have re the scent. The articles posted in THIS thread say no scent. Each different MSM article contradicts itself, but that doesn't give us the right to be so rude to new members

Sorry, CuriousCritter, you got what MSM with their many versions of one fact would have deserved (or I because of my post). It was not my intention to cause trouble.

 

[MRichards]

4 unknown high priority suspects!

maybe if the thread wasn't a confined gag order the information would leak through.

just sayin…...

Well, that will be good

Ring

Who would know that boy be there?

4 unknown priority people's who by chance were in a cul de sac?

 

[CuriousCritter]

"The boy no one could find" is the only article I have found that states the scent was found in the yard. Now to Love is a section of The Australian Women's Weekly where more indepth stories of interest are covered. I have noticed that the PR company for the Official Where's William Campaign have accessed this space a few times and I found the following article interesting about the journalist Michael Sheather who wrote, "The boy no one can find"

Five Minutes With... Michael Sheather, associate editor of The Australian Women’s Weekly

Yep only one I could find as well, that is still on the net today. It appears a lot of old articles that were released a couple of yrs back have been pulled from the WWB, I was looking for the article re: the neighbor mowing his lawn that morning and have noticed they have been pulled as well or edited. I found what I was looking for eventually via WS thread, that had been cut and pasted thankfully

 

[CuriousCritter]

Sorry, CuriousCritter, you got what MSM with their many versions of one fact would have deserved (or I because of my post). It was not my intention to cause trouble.

Oh you have nothing to apologize about FG, wasn't implying you at all. Like I just said to frogwell, alot of old articles have been pulled. So a new follower of the case...without being able to read them would get confused.

 

[frogwell]

"The boy no one could find" is the only article I have found that states the scent was found in the yard. Now to Love is a section of The Australian Women's Weekly where more indepth stories of interest are covered. I have noticed that the PR company for the Official Where's William Campaign have accessed this space a few times and I found the following article interesting about the journalist Michael Sheather who wrote, "The boy no one can find"

Five Minutes With... Michael Sheather, associate editor of The Australian Women’s Weekly

So, I believe I am stating a fact when I say besides that article, no MSM states that WT's scent was found within the boundaries of the property, only that ist wasn't found beyond the boundary which is a different thing entirely. Therefore I concur with Curiouscritters statement that the photo v scent as reported in MSM is contradictory. IMO

 

[sosocurious]

Yep only one I could find as well, that is still on the net today. It appears a lot of old articles that were released a couple of yrs back have been pulled from the WWB, I was looking for the article re: the neighbor mowing his lawn that morning and have noticed they have been pulled as well or edited. I found what I was looking for eventually via WS thread, that had been cut and pasted thankfully

Still there.

The man said there hasn't been 'one burglary or incident' on the street the whole time he has lived there.

'It is a quiet peaceful area and it has been turned upside down.'

'When I heard I was on my ride on mower and saw a police car. Someone came running down the street. They said someone had just lost a kid. I took my dog for a walk and had a look for him. I wish he was found on the first day.'

Missing William Tyrell, 3, 'picked up by a car' police now believe | Daily Mail Online

 

[MRichards]

Get it on tape so as Col can listen ...lol

If an inquest is announced - any persons of interest could be called upon to face a public hearing.

Thumbscrews

 

[deugirtni]

Yep only one I could find as well, that is still on the net today. It appears a lot of old articles that were released a couple of yrs back have been pulled from the WWB, I was looking for the article re: the neighbor mowing his lawn that morning and have noticed they have been pulled as well or edited. I found what I was looking for eventually via WS thread, that had been cut and pasted thankfully

Oh you have nothing to apologize about FG, wasn't implying you at all. Like I just said to frogwell, alot of old articles have been pulled. So a new follower of the case...without being able to read them would get confused.

Still there.

The man said there hasn't been 'one burglary or incident' on the street the whole time he has lived there.

'It is a quiet peaceful area and it has been turned upside down.'

'When I heard I was on my ride on mower and saw a police car. Someone came running down the street. They said someone had just lost a kid. I took my dog for a walk and had a look for him. I wish he was found on the first day.'

Missing William Tyrell, 3, 'picked up by a car' police now believe | Daily Mail Online

Yes, I am not sure why people here seem to believe that articles have been pulled. It seems that someone is always able to find them. jmo.

 

[deugirtni]

"The boy no one could find" is the only article I have found that states the scent was found in the yard. Now to Love is a section of The Australian Women's Weekly where more indepth stories of interest are covered. I have noticed that the PR company for the Official Where's William Campaign have accessed this space a few times and I found the following article interesting about the journalist Michael Sheather who wrote, "The boy no one can find"

Five Minutes With... Michael Sheather, associate editor of The Australian Women’s Weekly

In contrast, I remember a long time ago, looking for all references to scent.. and it seemed that it was actual police quotes which stated 'NO scent', as opposed to writings by reporters. The thing about quotes is that they have to be accurate, as opposed to rewording to suit, etc. The discrepancies in this case are unbelievable and have been like that on virtually every single point for the entire time. At one point I suggested that we create a log of only info that came from police (via quotes), or from the horses' mouths, to see where we end up... but.. unfortunately... so time consuming of a project. jmo.

 

[deugirtni]

I get so confused with it going to the coroner , can someone help me understand ? What more could they offer ?

Have a read of the Daniel Morcombe case, as it seems it took a coroner's inquest to get the investigation back on track. The dead boy's family had pleaded for years for an inquest.

Might I enquire as to why so many on this thread seem to feel uncomfortable at the mention of an inquest being held? Wouldn't an inquest ONLY be able to help to put things together, see where any errors may have been made, get things all organized, possibly see any shortcomings, etc? Wouldn't that all be for the *good*? Isn't it the goal of everyone that the truth be found, no matter *what* that truth is?

 

[deugirtni]

Missing William Tyrell could not have survived alone in bush: police
Sniffer dogs and cadaver dogs found no scent in the yard, fuelling fears he may have been abducted.

Yes, the above was even published in the SMH which i know caught my attention at the time. I believe the FFamily was under heavy suspicion at the beginning of the investigation, being the last and only people to see WT in Kendall, and therefore they had to be looked at closely first. However, they have been cleared.

I'm pretty sure the family was 'cleared' within the first day or two, IIRC. It seemed way too fast to me, considering they were the ones under whose watch WT had been at the time, and last to have seen him, among other things. I never got the impression at all that the FF was under heavy suspicion. jmo though.

 

[deugirtni]

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Wouldn't any persons at all, having any information at all, be subject to being called upon to say what they know, at an inquest? So this would also presumably include neighbours, family members, etc? I am assuming that an inquest would look at all pertinent info, and not just info from POIs?

 

[deugirtni]

I recall to TGY, however a 'card' receipt does not the 'Card passing payer' reveal. That's where we need cameras or witnesses imho...

Exactly. Even though BS may be able to prove that his debit card paid for something at the cafe at a certain exact time on a certain exact date, that does not preclude the possibility (however unlikely), that someone else could have been using his card - which is why I believe he seems to remain UNcleared. In the event that POIs are unable to provide an alibi written in stone, how can they ever be cleared, until such time as the case is solved and brought to justice?

 

[Wexford]

Have a read of the Daniel Morcombe case, as it seems it took a coroner's inquest to get the investigation back on track. The dead boy's family had pleaded for years for an inquest.

Might I enquire as to why so many on this thread seem to feel uncomfortable at the mention of an inquest being held? Wouldn't an inquest ONLY be able to help to put things together, see where any errors may have been made, get things all organized, possibly see any shortcomings, etc? Wouldn't that all be for the *good*? Isn't it the goal of everyone that the truth be found, no matter *what* that truth is?

BBM
Because it feels final and probably means he is dead?
I am well aware of what a Coronial Inquest is but how often is one held for any other reason? Not often I would think.
I think there is a fine line between knowing the whole truth and having to let go of hope.

 

[Wexford]

Yeah, it's this phonecall in the morning that holds the key to it all. It might hang him or completely clear him and point in the opposite direction. IMO

When I tried to find the article that mentioned this I searched Col's name and 'deleted phone logs' and no articles came up. I was searching the wrong wording. It does not say in any article that the logs were deleted only that the phone calls were not in his phone log. It may be the same thing. It may not.

 

[Wexford]

"I want to stress we have numerous lines of inquiry including persons of interest that we are going to fully exhaust before the matter goes to a coroner," he said at the start of the search in June.
"Until we know conclusively that William is not alive, we'll treat it with the possibility that he still is alive."

One of those lines of inquiry prompted a search in a small patch of bushland - a few kilometres from the main area - which was connected to a high-risk person of interest in the case.

Investigators said they gained clues from the second site but no clear evidence of William.

The coroner declined to comment while the police investigation was still active.

NSW coroner joins William Tyrrell search | PerthNow

Who is this piece of land connected to? I thought it was owned by the Batar Scouts (although there does not appear to be a Batar Scouts).

 

[deugirtni]

BBM
Because it feels final and probably means he is dead?
I am well aware of what a Coronial Inquest is but how often is one held for any other reason? Not often I would think.
I think there is a fine line between knowing the whole truth and having to let go of hope.

That hope was gone a long time ago, don't you think? Afterall, a judge ruled some time ago that the fostering situation could be revealed publicly since chances were very unlikely that the boy was still alive at that point and therefore the fact that he was in foster care was not going to harm him? (ad libbing here)

 

[deugirtni]

Who is this piece of land connected to? I thought it was owned by the Batar Scouts (although there does not appear to be a Batar Scouts).

That is the whole purported mystery, who is it 'connected to'? But connected to doesn't necessarily mean 'owned by'. jmo.

 

[papertrail]

They have differed, haven't they?

Police dogs were brought in and they managed to find William’s scent, but only within the boundaries of the backyard.
The boy no one can find

This one is interesting given the recent searches.

Police dogs have failed to pick up any scent trails to suggest William wandered off into the dense, hilly bushland opposite his grandparents’ house.

We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph

And just may be that the scent that was picked up was as a consequence of the arrival on 11september not a scent trail from 12 september. The public have never been told the exact locations the dog picked up on just that the scent was within the property boundaries.

There is a large stormwater storage tank under the deck where William had been playing. I do hope that had been checked.a small child may have chosen such a place to play hide n seek not knowing the risk of drowning. These tanks have an external access point at the top. The tank is visible on google earth street view from location where 2 cars were supposed to be parked.