Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #35

[Hbayne]

Does anyone know BS' whereabouts or whether he went to the cafe or to the school presentation? It sounds like no-one here knows for sure (i bet team Rosann know). On the other hand, does anyone know where was TJ was for real? None of us know for certain?... so, who are the the high risk persons? Makes me wonder whether we know anything at all.. i guess we are waiting for news, or an inquest?

Yes it’s strange that BS alibi is seen as shaky but we know TJ’s is too from what he himself has stated and what’s been refuted by others . I’m not sure why TJ hasn’t had the same exposure as BS. I guess he has from the media but not so much as Police . I’m certainly not defending BS as I think his hand lays somewhere in this but on paper TJ seems more the fit.

 

[sosocurious]

BS could’ve called MS to buy the coffee and he’ll meet her there....soon.

Some or all phone records were deleted?

bbm
Col said BS tried to call back after having missed the call from fm. That was presumably around 10:00am because when he could not get through he trotted up from the office to the Buzz cafe to have a coffee with Marg. Of course we don't know if he really did call back, yet.
What time did the fm call BS and leave the message?
Did his phone ping, where did it ping? Or had the phone been turned off prior 10:00am?

 

[Bohemian]

And for the record I haven’t seen BS being referred to by name in an article recently . This could mean one of a few things I guess.

Not recently but if you Google his name, many of the old articles still contain it.

 

[iailwa]

Yes it’s strange that BS alibi is seen as shaky but we know TJ’s is too from what he himself has stated and what’s been refuted by others . I’m not sure why TJ hasn’t had the same exposure as BS. I guess he has from the media but not so much as Police . I’m certainly not defending BS as I think his hand lays somewhere in this but on paper TJ seems more the fit.

I agree HB. But with this recent search about someone known to "have been" or is residing, in the area - has me stumped. It may be we have all been duped & have no idea of this suspect at all... quite scary really - insert comfused face

 

[frogwell]

but its the accumulation of nothing of substance (mud that sticks per say) and the accumulation of justifications and alibi.
there isn't anyone saying he wasn't where he said he was.
he has someone verifying his alibi.
he reckons he has record proof of his coffee date.
its not hard to believe .
its really unprovable that he wasn't there imo with the information at hand.

Maybe there isn't more, maybe there is, but I think the focus was more on BS than anyone else as the police were reinformed of very serious CSA historical allegations that they indeed have prosecuted. They have kept him out there for more information to come in. AArrrgghh, what are the results of these historical charges? IMO

 

[Hbayne]

Not recently but if you Google his name, many of the old articles still contain it.

Yes that’s what I found too Bo

 

[Hbayne]

bbm
Col said BS tried to call back after having missed the call from fm. That was presumably around 10:00am because when he could not get through he trotted up from the office to the Buzz cafe to have a coffee with Marg. Of course we don't know if he really did call back, yet.
What time did the fm call BS and leave the message?
Did his phone ping, where did it ping? Or had the phone been turned off prior 10:00am?

Yes that’s a big red flag isn’t it . Hiding his call records for some reason.

 

[deugirtni]

Yes that’s a big red flag isn’t it . Hiding his call records for some reason.

Do you have any idea how easy it is to get cell/landline records from the service provider? That someone might delete their logs is meaningless imho and in any case, would surely not impede investigation of phone calls.

 

[Hbayne]

I have a certain family member that is not in our life that I sometimes get calls from. To save any drama from anyone else happening to see they are contacting me I always delete their call on my log. Any other call not so much. There has to be a reason I think for deleting call log.

 

[Hbayne]

Do you have any idea how easy it is to get cell/landline records from the service provider? That someone might delete their logs is meaningless imho and in any case, would surely not impede investigation of phone calls.

No I don’t and maybe he did not either, hence his POI Status still standing

 

[Hbayne]

Do you have any idea how easy it is to get cell/landline records from the service provider? That someone might delete their logs is meaningless imho and in any case, would surely not impede investigation of phone calls.

If it were meaningless then I don’t see why it would be reported to the media. Only police would know this and report it

 

[Chloexx]

Do we have any idea what time the school presentation was and how long it went for?

Or do we know what the presentation was for?

 

[deugirtni]

If it were meaningless then I don’t see why it would be reported to the media. Only police would know this and report it

Are you serious? The media have picked on every little speck of anything at all they could hear or find or repeat or hear of, if it involves BS. They've had a field day with him. It wasn't like police called up the media and said hey, this guy is sus because he deleted his phone logs. It was BS's own *relative*/friend that told the media that little piece of dandy. Meanwhile, police actually have the wherewithall to obtain actual phone records from the source. They don't need to just go by what appears on a cellphone log. From what I recall, BS was apparently at the cafe around the time in question, and this is backed up, apparently, by bank records. The thing is, there is nothing to prove that it was BS who was actually using his own debit card at that moment. It was some 4 months after the fact that staff at the cafe were asked if he was there at that time, and of course, who would remember? They of course remembered that they had served him in the past, but 4 months later, they sure couldn't vouch for who exactly they served at 10am 4 months ago. And because of this inability to verify alibi with someone other than his own wife, he remains a POI. Same with the school assembly. Four months after the fact, people were being asked (presumably) if they saw BS at a specific time on a specific date. Who would remember? As important as we all like to think that we are, I'm sure there were a LOT of parents/caretakers/grandparents/guardians there at the awards assembly that day, and while BS may remember seeing somone in particular, such as a teacher or principal, those teachers and principal saw a great many people. Unless there was something to specifically stand out in memory to say, YES, I remember it was exactly 10:38am on x date when I saw BS there, then the chance of that being burned in memory is slim to none.
jmo

 

[Violet77]

What do you see: William pictured as a 3 year-old or in addition as progressed in age?

It was advertising the $1 million dollar reward with just one original photo of William.

 

[tmar]

My Credit card statements have separate columns. One for Transaction date, another for Processed date, often being different.

 

[stormyseas]

Do we have any idea what time the school presentation was and how long it went for?

Or do we know what the presentation was for?

http://www.laurieton-p.schools.nsw....4/10401167/Information book March 15 2012.pdf

http://cartwrightps.myauschools.com...40910150905_Newsletter_No_29___10_09_2014.pdf

The above links include the Laurieton Primary School newsletter dated 10th September 2014, indicating there is a stage assembly to be held on Friday 12th September 2014. The other link describes these assemblies and indicates that stage assemblies occur each fortnight beginning at 10.30am.

 

[deugirtni]

Yes it’s strange that BS alibi is seen as shaky but we know TJ’s is too from what he himself has stated and what’s been refuted by others . I’m not sure why TJ hasn’t had the same exposure as BS. I guess he has from the media but not so much as Police . I’m certainly not defending BS as I think his hand lays somewhere in this but on paper TJ seems more the fit.

Possibly TJ hasn't received the same exposure because the *only* thing that seems to link him at *all* to this case is the fact that he may not be able to prove his whereabouts at that time on that certain day. There appears to be no other links to him, from what I have heard. He had access to a certain type of vehicle, which was similar to a vehicle which apparently was seen on the street that morning, however they did forensically examine said vehicle, and came up blank. It has not been reported that they came up blank, however you can bet that if they found DNA (hair, skin, blood, anything) linking WT to that vehicle, the man would have been charged, since there is no explanation for why anything to do with WT would be in TJ's vehicle.
I think we are all kind of hoping that police have more on their supposed 'suspects', than merely that certain people cannot verify their alibis. By the way, have police even said anything about having 4 suspects and a POI, or is that little tidbit only expressed in certain MSM? If only MSM, how accurate is the information?
jmo

 

[deugirtni]

No I don’t and maybe he did not either, hence his POI Status still standing

For me, it seems pretty simple to see how his POI status could still be standing. If someone cannot provide a proven alibi, they can't be cleared, imho. My post just up a bit explains how it could come to be that BS may not be able to prove his alibi, even with his wife and bank records corroborating.

 

[Hbayne]

Are you serious? The media have picked on every little speck of anything at all they could hear or find or repeat or hear of, if it involves BS. They've had a field day with him. It wasn't like police called up the media and said hey, this guy is sus because he deleted his phone logs. It was BS's own *relative*/friend that told the media that little piece of dandy. Meanwhile, police actually have the wherewithall to obtain actual phone records from the source. They don't need to just go by what appears on a cellphone log. From what I recall, BS was apparently at the cafe around the time in question, and this is backed up, apparently, by bank records. The thing is, there is nothing to prove that it was BS who was actually using his own debit card at that moment. It was some 4 months after the fact that staff at the cafe were asked if he was there at that time, and of course, who would remember? They of course remembered that they had served him in the past, but 4 months later, they sure couldn't vouch for who exactly they served at 10am 4 months ago. And because of this inability to verify alibi with someone other than his own wife, he remains a POI. Same with the school assembly. Four months after the fact, people were being asked (presumably) if they saw BS at a specific time on a specific date. Who would remember? As important as we all like to think that we are, I'm sure there were a LOT of parents/caretakers/grandparents/guardians there at the awards assembly that day, and while BS may remember seeing somone in particular, such as a teacher or principal, those teachers and principal saw a great many people. Unless there was something to specifically stand out in memory to say, YES, I remember it was exactly 10:38am on x date when I saw BS there, then the chance of that being burned in memory is slim to none.
jmo

in response yes I am serious

 

[Hbayne]

For me, it seems pretty simple to see how his POI status could still be standing. If someone cannot provide a proven alibi, they can't be cleared, imho. My post just up a bit explains how it could come to be that BS may not be able to prove his alibi, even with his wife and bank records corroborating.

I would not ever say “ pretty simple” I’m sure their are many reasons .