Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #35

[ak19861981]

Thinking back only recently to the man who abducted an 11 yo in Newcastle.
Papers reported he was a ‘nomad’ living in his car. Luckily dashcam footage helped ID him.
I remember watching Struggle Street and there was a chap who pitched tents in the bush, I think he might have been a drug user as well and hung out with local kids. Not saying he was a paedophile or anything but the thought that there are people who could be living in bushland behind your home or a pedophile living in a car is something to consider. A nomad mightn’t have anyone to tell about what they got up to that day. And could fly under LE radar quite easily.

 

[Warshawski]

From thread #31 post 1198 - My hypothesis.

All The POI and a few others are having a rock spider meeting that morning, perhaps at bowling club car park.

One of them knows a lot about the FF because he gets information from a friend (the relative of bio family).

Also one of them has been to FG house, doing some work on washing machine, saw a note on the fridge, grandkids are visiting.

During the meeting they see the FF drive past, on his way to do some business. They then drive away in a number of cars, one follows the FF to keep an eye on him, then goes. To have a coffee in same town FF drives to.

The other two drive to the house where they know the out of town kid will be visiting. (2 cars) They are just checking it out, fantasising a bit, cause they are working out how to groom the kid, make friends with the family, the usual way they work to get access.

Then, not expecting to snatch a child on that day, they park their cars to look at how they can plan the access and are presented with an opportunity to snatch. The little boy they have head about just appears right in front of them.

The snatch is made in the car that has not been examined, no phones were used, because they just drove away, met up with the rest of the network by driving to tell them.

Who is driving the other car? TJ driving one car, the white one, it has been tested. Where is the other car.

Now consider that GJ has said “someone in town knows what we are searching for”

That something could be something from that morning. Could be something from that car? Could be something from that group morning meeting? Could be the message from the fridge magnet? Could be a photograph with DNA / Print

What were they really searching for?

Hi BigT, and I applaud your Poste. Thank you.

I've puzzled this similarly.

I think of the car that was said to be 'scrapped in Qld'.

 

[Warshawski]

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BBM

What is this connection to Port Macquarie you speak of Papertrail? I've never seen this, do you have a link?

I recall also of that party / gathering being reported early on. The children were apparently pre-known in the area...
which brings one to the fact that 'planning' could have been underway for an opportunity for a 'grab'. The reasons for which I'm sure GJ has totally sussed, and perhaps why he's giving so many opportunities with his 'warnings'.

The 'grab' may have been intended to be Two (hence 2 cars) but opportunity may have only delivered One.

If that's the situation, I hold hope that William is ok. ..

 

[papertrail]

FM discusses her brothers at 6 mins 36 secs on the video 'William Tyrrell's disappearance, the full NSW police interview 17 April 2015'.

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[bearbear]

The family had visited Kendall before, with locals recalling seeing them the previous December.
How missing William Tyrrell's disappearance has baffled a nation | Daily Mail Online

 

[deugirtni]

The family had visited Kendall before, with locals recalling seeing them the previous December.
How missing William Tyrrell's disappearance has baffled a nation | Daily Mail Online

It's interesting because I recall one article which stated the neighbour had lived there for 7 years and had not seen the others, only the FGM.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

It's interesting because I recall one article which stated the neighbour had lived there for 7 years and had not seen the others, only the FGM.

We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph

She said: “It was really odd because the whole time that mum and dad have lived at Kendall there has never ever been cars parked on that street, ever. It just didn’t make sense to me,” his mum said.

“And I kick myself, I kick myself in terms of why didn’t I note down the numberplates?

“But the logic part of me says, you know what, in Sydney, you’d write down a numberplate. In Kendall, there’s no reason to write down a numberplate. It is one of the safest towns in NSW.”
Not imputed anything, how would she know this, if she is living far away and a rare visitor?

 

[deugirtni]

We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph

She said: “It was really odd because the whole time that mum and dad have lived at Kendall there has never ever been cars parked on that street, ever. It just didn’t make sense to me,” his mum said.

“And I kick myself, I kick myself in terms of why didn’t I note down the numberplates?

“But the logic part of me says, you know what, in Sydney, you’d write down a numberplate. In Kendall, there’s no reason to write down a numberplate. It is one of the safest towns in NSW.”
Not imputed anything, how would she know this, if she is living far away and a rare visitor?

I wondered the same.

 

[deugirtni]

It's interesting because I recall one article which stated the neighbour had lived there for 7 years and had not seen the others, only the FGM.

William's disappearance was the first visit since the grandfather had died in February (7 months prior), so it doesn't sound like there was a whole lot of visiting going on, to know about whether cars ever parked on the street or not. And if one is in the habit of writing down plate numbers because they live in a big city, wouldn't it be more natural to automatically out of habit write down the numbers, than to not write them down?

"The neighbour said that while he has lived on the street for seven years he did not know William or the boy's parents. He had however met the woman who lived in the house where William disappeared from."
Missing William Tyrell, 3, 'picked up by a car' police now believe | Daily Mail Online

 

[papertrail]

What brings on asthma attacks in children? Tiredness? Stress? Allergies from locations that contain things the childs system reacts to. Garden plants? FGM garden full of plants that may cause allergic reactions. Stress from being put up a tree when the child then acts in fear.fm describes William's fearful reaction. the lowest branches of the tree he was placed in are quite a distance off the ground! How did fm manage to lift him into that tree. She said it was a celery tree. That is the tree that is prominent in footage with DCI Jubelin and Usher...the one with white bark. This happened to William an hour before he disappeared according to fm. Was Williams asthma medication taken to kendall.

 

[papertrail]

Fgm had been very unwell recently hospitalized and would be mourning the loss of her only spouse. House fully carpeted which may not have been vacuumed recently. Dust mite paradise. children going berserk with delight stirring up dust mites. perfect storm for asthma attack.

What meds did ff have to pick up on morning? Asthma medication? Why did fm ask him when he got home after Williams abduction when William had been with her after ff had left for laurieton. why did she ask ff that vital question. what made her think William was with ff? or was it lakewood he went to. He said it was laurieton. Ff said in interview this description about fm question.

 

[Hbayne]

Yes she did listen carefully! She described how her brother had raised children in the kendall area and it was always considered safe. FM was also raised in Kendall.

FM discusses her brothers at 6 mins 36 secs on the video 'William Tyrrell's disappearance, the full NSW police interview 17 April 2015'.

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my apology paper trail, I assumed you were referring or Williams brothers.

 

[papertrail]

In my posts today i am in no way indicating any deliberate intent to harm William.

 

[papertrail]

my apology paper trail, I assumed you were referring or Williams brothers.

Thankyou HB. I thought I had made it clear but maybe not. People tend to forget FM had lots of previous life connections to kendall and port macquarie. Maybe there is a loose connection in that previous background. Was there someone that secretly harboured ill feeling towards FM or FGM? that may well be a question to be answered. If William was abducted it was done so with planning beyond belief... this would take a certain mindset. Was there a previous relationship with fm prior to ff. was there someone possibly female whose mind was totally focussed on FM with an internal out of control rage? There is no happenstance involved.

 

[bearbear]

some of the nine news fm transcript William Tyrrell missing child Australia: IN THEIR WORDS: William Tyrrell's parents talk of the day their boy went missing and the 'living nightmare' they endure

 

[k-mac]

In my posts today i am in no way indicating any deliberate intent to harm William.

these are things we should be able to explore freely.
closer connections to the family....
that's what is very frustrating because there is a gag order we really have no idea what the police are exploring and who.

jubes said in one of his statements they explored the pedo ring theory which reading between the lines me thinks means isn't current anymore.

so......5 persons of interest

who are they beyond 1/the washing machine guy.???

 

[papertrail]

these are things we should be able to explore freely.
closer connections to the family....
that's what is very frustrating because there is a gag order we really have no idea what the police are exploring and who.

jubes said in one of his statements they explored the pedo ring theory which reading between the lines me thinks means isn't current anymore.

so......5 persons of interest

who are they beyond 1/the washing machine guy.???

Media have already and numerous times mentioned...

1. Spedding allegations of paedophile activity in 2 States currently in Court systems
2. Bickford convicted sexual assault. young teenaged girl 2015.
3. Jones convicted of wide ranging sexual assault activity on young people
4. Nichols convicted paedophilic ex priest.

Note Bickford head of local GAPA Jones a member of that chapter.


The 5th who knows.

Was Jeffrey John Hillsley Speddings old convicted paedophilic mate locked away in 2014? Was Hillsley associated with anyone else?

In cases like this close POI associates are looked at and Youngberry put himself into the media as a close associate of Spedding. Spedding being driven to court appearances by him. Spedding fleeing to his home to stay when Speddings house was searched for a couple of days. Mrs spedding hanging off youngberry after court appearance or was it at police station. Youngberry admitting to media he had known Spedding for 3 decades takes their association back to mid 80s time of paedophile allegations re Spedding. Youngberry providing socalled alibi info for Spedding to media.

Mrs Spedding and Mrs Youngberry are reported to be blood relatives via media reports.

Media reports mrs spedding made contact after indictment against spedding...to one of the victims who was one of Speddings alleged victims. Is this type of contact within the law or is it harrassment and an atempt to pervert the course of justice?

I am not stating Youngberry is a POI.

 

[papertrail]

NICHOLS offended against a young boy.
BICKFORD AND JONES AGAINST YOUNG GIRLS. SPEDDING ALLEGATIONS INVOLVE VERY YOUNG GIRLS. HILLSLEY YOUNG GIRLS.

I have mentioned previously I believe if William was abducted that his sister too was a target. But for her trip to the toilet at the perfect time she would have been abducted.

 

[k-mac]

Media have already and numerous times mentioned...

1. Spedding allegations of paedophile activity in 2 States currently in Court systems
2. Bickford convicted sexual assault. young teenaged girl 2015.
3. Jones convicted of wide ranging sexual assault activity on young people
4. Nichols convicted paedophilic ex priest.

Note Bickford head of local GAPA Jones a member of that chapter.


The 5th who knows.

Was Jeffrey John Hillsley Speddings old convicted paedophilic mate locked away in 2014? Was Hillsley associated with anyone else?

In cases like this close POI associates are looked at and Youngberry put himself into the media as a close associate of Spedding. Spedding being driven to court appearances by him. Spedding fleeing to his home to stay when Speddings house was searched for a couple of days. Mrs spedding hanging off youngberry after court appearance or was it at police station. Youngberry admitting to media he had known Spedding for 3 decades takes their association back to mid 80s time of paedophile allegations re Spedding. Youngberry providing socalled alibi info for Spedding to media.

Mrs Spedding and Mrs Youngberry are reported to be blood relatives via media reports.

Media reports mrs spedding made contact after indictment against spedding...to one of the victims who was one of Speddings alleged victims. Is this type of contact within the law or is it harrassment and an atempt to pervert the course of justice?

I am not stating Youngberry is a POI.

appreciate detailed reply papertrail
but honesty imo if these are the persons of interest.....I don't think the case is looking solid at all

 

[Josie2014]

these are things we should be able to explore freely.
closer connections to the family....
that's what is very frustrating because there is a gag order we really have no idea what the police are exploring and who.

jubes said in one of his statements they explored the pedo ring theory which reading between the lines me thinks means isn't current anymore.

so......5 persons of interest

who are they beyond 1/the washing machine guy.???

k-mac my thoughts are very similar to yours.

I feel the line of inquiry which looked into the alleged ring was made up of PB TJ KL and probably BS with the primary link being grandparents raising grandchildren. From my understanding of GJ's wording this line of inquiry has been investigated and as no evidence was found it is no longer a line of inquiry being pursued.

This leaves DN who I had put a pencil line through due to his age, however given the information coming out of these recent searches I am now reconsidering DN as he fits the local or nearby scenario.

As far as BS being mentioned as a high profile POI in recent MSN due to comments made by a "police source" it's all a bit sketchy. For me trust and MSN don't go hand in hand.

The question I would love to ask is: "Are the 5 connected to each other or are they the top 5 individuals on the high priority list of POI's?"