Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #37

[SouthAussie]

Bickford could be one of them.
I'm not on the same page though when it comes to BS as my interpretation of Dan Box's wording is they spoke to known "sex offenders" and DB specifically states "arrested at about the time William went missing". Just my interpretation but imo BS falls outside that description. IMO the report refers to the 20 RCSO's and particularly those who had been arrested.
What it might mean is there were others from the 20 who were arrested and are POI's who are unknown to us.

The police have interviewed dozens of people including a number of paedophiles. A Current Affair reported that about 20 registered sex offenders were living in the surrounding area of Kendall where Tyrrell went missing.

Disappearance of William Tyrrell - Wikipedia

Sources told the ABC police were also talking to all known sex offenders in the region.

Timeline follows disappearance of William Tyrrell

Definitely does not say 'known' sex offenders in Dan Box's article. Just sex offenders. Could be alleged sex offenders, too, who were charged with sex offences prior to Dan writing that article.

Other sex offenders arrested at about the time William went missing also have come to the attention of police.
The Australian - September 12, 2015
Another William Tyrrell person of interest

Jones, Bill Spedding, and GAPA are the only investigated persons/entities (in this case) spoken of in the article. No reference to the 20 pedos in the area at all.



In my experience, Dan usually writes his articles quite carefully.

Dan Box and Eric George - winners of the Walkley Award for Radio/Audio Journalism in 2016.
Dan Box is the national crime reporter for The Australian.
Award Winners - The Walkley Foundation

Dan won several Australian journalism awards in 2016, including Journalist of the Year and Crime Reporter of the Year, for a podcast and series of print reports that led to a suspected serial killer being sent back to court.
He previously won other awards for his work at The Australian newspaper and with the BBC.
https://uk.linkedin.com/in/dan-box-3614a711

 

[Josie2014]

Just throwing another article into the mix.

"We've uncovered and received information that leads us to a line of people we suspect of being involved in paedophile activity," Detective Inspector Jubelin said.

"We are exploring information linking them to William's disappearance," he said.

William Tyrrell investigation: police home in on paedophile ring

There are a couple of possible ways to take this I think.
1) there is an alleged active ring in the area but was found not to be involved with William.
2) there were a line of people who allegedly were a ring but that was found not to be the case.

Possibly the line of people with a link to William's disappearance were BS > TJ > DG > KL

ETA
More recently the investigation has moved to a perpetrator acting as a lone wolf, which could be one of those people thought to be in an alleged paedophile ring or someone else entirely, but still possibly linked to people from the alleged ring.

 

[JLZ]

We've talked about the possibility of someone stimulated by the propinquity of other children taking it out on William. That was in terms of a sexual motive. What if it was a different sort of feeling, such as jealousy? A stepfather or boyfriend jealous of his partner's connection to her child of William's age. Or an older child jealous of a younger child. Let us say these people were neighbours (though if a boyfriend, he might have been a visitor). That there was some sort of open conflict leading to a heightening of rage, the mother and small child went out, and then there was William.

 

[Josie2014]

Definitely does not say 'known' sex offenders in Dan Box's article. Just sex offenders. Could be alleged sex offenders, too, who were charged with sex offences prior to Dan writing that article.

Jones, Bill Spedding, and GAPA are the only investigated persons/entities (in this case) spoken of in the article. No reference to the 20 pedos in the area at all.

In my experience, Dan usually writes his articles quite carefully.

Other sex offenders arrested at about the time William went missing also have come to the attention of police.
The Australian - September 12, 2015
Another William Tyrrell person of interest

Did you notice I didn't put known in the inverted commas? I also said it was my interpretation of the article. I also pointed out it was my opinion.

I agree re Dan Box, he is one of the few who has credibility.

 

[SouthAussie]

Did you notice I didn't put known in the inverted commas? I also said it was my interpretation of the article. I also pointed out it was my opinion.

I agree re Dan Box, he is one of the few who has credibility.

Yes, yes, and yes.

Just countering your opinion with my own opinion is all, as part of the discussion.

 

[Thebottomline]

We've talked about the possibility of someone stimulated by the propinquity of other children taking it out on William. That was in terms of a sexual motive. What if it was a different sort of feeling, such as jealousy? A stepfather or boyfriend jealous of his partner's connection to her child of William's age. Or an older child jealous of a younger child. Let us say these people were neighbours (though if a boyfriend, he might have been a visitor). That there was some sort of open conflict leading to a heightening of rage, the mother and small child went out, and then there was William.

I don’t understand JLZ, what was the discussion about older children taking it out on William ?

 

[JLZ]

I don’t understand JLZ, what was the discussion about older children taking it out on William ?

I don't think there was any prior discussion of an older child specifically. It was just an idea I had, as a version of the theory that the offender was somehow primed by his (hypothesized) contact with other children--not William. For example the offender is jealous of child X, whom he sees regularly; William in some way resembles child X and is available in a way child X is not; William is murdered instead of child X.

 

[SouthAussie]

I don't think there was any prior discussion of an older child specifically. It was just an idea I had, as a version of the theory that the offender was somehow primed by his (hypothesized) contact with other children--not William. For example the offender is jealous of child X, whom he sees regularly; William in some way resembles child X and is available in a way child X is not; William is murdered instead of child X.

Or an older child who has been abused themselves and knows that abuse is 'secret' and nothing you admitted to.

I remember way back in the threads we spoke of the possibility of an older child riding/walking by and maybe seeing William. If they were not in school that day for some reason, or were wagging.
There certainly have been enough older children in this world who have committed horrible crimes against younger children.

Perhaps part of the investigation has been to see who was not in school that day?

 

[JLZ]

Or an older child who has been abused themselves and knows that abuse is 'secret' and nothing you admitted to.

I remember way back in the threads we spoke of the possibility of an older child riding/walking by and maybe seeing William. If they were not in school that day for some reason, or were wagging.
There certainly have been enough older children in this world who have committed horrible crimes against younger children.

Perhaps part of the investigation has been to see who was not in school that day?

If the killer is a child victim of parents' abuse, the parents would have a motive for helping conceal the crime. To prevent their own actions coming to light.

However, I don't want to push the child offender theory as there's been no suggestion of that in MSM and some children who were living on Benaroon Drive may be identifiable. My suggestion is an unpremeditated murder based on a non-sexual motive such as jealousy or anger where the original focus of feelings was a child other than William.

 

[Thebottomline]

I don't think there was any prior discussion of an older child specifically. It was just an idea I had, as a version of the theory that the offender was somehow primed by his (hypothesized) contact with other children--not William. For example the offender is jealous of child X, whom he sees regularly; William in some way resembles child X and is available in a way child X is not; William is murdered instead of child X.

Thanks, I get it now

 

[Freddo Frog]

I wonder why Margaret didn't/couldn't do that? Have Spedding live elsewhere, and have her grandchildren continue to live with her.

I would think that the media attention would then have moved away from her (and the grandchildren's residence) and just followed Spedding.



The mother of the three young boys, who cannot be named, was shocked to discover that the children had been living with a man accused of child abuse.
'Someone... needs to be held accountable,' she told The Australian.

The boys' grandfather told the newspaper: 'I am very concerned about what may have happened to my grandchildren.'
Bill Spedding's son backs his dad over missing William Tyrrell case | Daily Mail Online

Yes, he had the upstairs room at the office with the mattress all set up, ready for a good nights sleep...

 

[Freddo Frog]

My mind had been made up so early in this case of who I thought was involved. As time goes on and the more I read and hear I sometimes briefly wonder if BS is the scapegoat/ fall guy in this whole case. Not entirely innocent but maybe more in the background than some others . All IMOO of course

That's always been my thinking, too. He is involved but not wholly. I do not believe that he has been set up as a fall guy/scapegoat by the police, though.

 

[Thebottomline]

That's always been my thinking, too. He is involved but not wholly. I do not believe that he has been set up as a fall guy/scapegoat by the police, though.

Yes involved but maybe not solely or directly. But then again , so many things point to him.

 

[Thebottomline]

Yes, he had the upstairs room at the office with the mattress all set up, ready for a good nights sleep...

Yes that aswell, why the mattress , was it there fo preparation but things went wrong

 

[Freddo Frog]

I don't know for sure, but I think they went to another family member. AFAIK the father still see's them so things could have changed.

Just to keep me on track, are these SB's children you are referring to?

 

[Freddo Frog]

I have read somewhere that way prior to the abduction there were plans for ff to move overseas and bio fm had been involved in court process to fight the childrens removal from Australia. Cant recall where I read this but there are a couple of fb messages on bio fb wayback that also give the impression.

I in no way indicate FF FGM or Bio family of involvement in abduction process.

RSBBM

I recall reading those same angry FB posts, too, but I thought it was to do with a lengthy overseas holiday, not moving overseas. My memory is not that sharp on that detail, sorry.

 

[Freddo Frog]

However, I am glad that people are starting to consider the safety and ongoing welfare of others in this matter. Sometimes I feel that they have been somewhat overlooked due to the crisis with William. And all of the children seem very important to me ..... William and all of his siblings.

I wish the Alana people had considered that...

 

[papertrail]

Yes, he had the upstairs room at the office with the mattress all set up, ready for a good nights sleep...

Upstairs used to be accommodation prior to Spedding leasing the premises. so the mattress means nothing - more than likely a bit of 'rubbish' left behind by previous tenants.

 

[Thebottomline]

Upstairs used to be accommodation prior to Spedding leasing the premises. so the mattress means nothing - more than likely a bit of 'rubbish' left behind by previous tenants.

Really, I’ve not heard that before, do you have a link ? don’t know how you can say the mattress means nothing. It certainly did to the police .

 

[papertrail]

I wish the Alana people had considered that...

Allanah has acted morally and in support of William imo. The initial story that was put out about William was totally against what the 'truth' was and all Allanah did was face upto the giant of FACS and their ineptitude make rules and regulations without backup by Law. Allanah should be congratulated not vilified.

If she had not stood up we would still be following the premise that William had attended Kendall with his bio family to visit bio family.