Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #37

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Questioning Evidence is not Sleuthing :rolleyes: IMO
Of course it is, otherwise why are we all here going around in circles? We will all see different things in each news report.
In the meantime, what evidence? A child is missing, that seems to be the only thing that is certain.
 
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I’m sorry I apologise if you think it was personalised, Yes I’m very recent on this thread and I know I’ve had a lot to say in that short time. You can be a recent poster and at the same time have been following this case very closely and watching for a very long time . I don’t think it’s fair to discount anyone here about there longevity in this case. I’m pretty sure I know the ins and outs from day one very very well.
All good, :)
 
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Of course it is, otherwise why are we all here going around in circles? We will all see different things in each news report.
In the meantime, what evidence? A child is missing, that seems to be the only thing that is certain.
Agree, and we are 37 threads along and still nothing, :(
 
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Let’s hope for an update next week .
 
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I would say Alibi's can help to solve cases.
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Alibis and criminal law
One of the recurring plot premises in a crime drama is how the baddie would initially have a watertight alibi, which would then eventually fall apart when the good guys start to find holes in the alibi of the accused. This of course then leads to the satisfactory conclusion that we all want. However in the real world, an alibi for a person who is accused of an offence – and who isn’t the perpetrator – is an important for anyone who is innocent of an offence. Most people would assume that an alibi is relatively straightforward, however, there is a surprising amount of technical details that is associated with the laws in regards to alibis.

What is an alibi?
Like many other words in the legal vernacular, the term alibi is derived from Latin, which means, elsewhere.

It’s as simple as that.
What are the notice requirements for an alibi?
All states have a prescribed period of when notice should be given to the Director of Public Prosecution in regards to an alibi, and readers should be mindful that most states have different notice requirements. For example in s 590A of Queensland’s Criminal Code, the prescribed period in which evidence of an alibi is to be submitted, is the period of 14 days after the date for the committal for trial of the accused. While under s 51 of Victoria’s Criminal Procedure Act, it’s seven days before the day on which either a contest mention hearing or summary hearing, is when an accused must provide notice. While in contrast, the prescribed period for notice of an alibi under s 150 of New South Wale’s Criminal Procedure Act is the “… period commencing at the time of the accused person’s committal for trial and ending 42 days before the trial is listed for hearing.”
Alibis and criminal law
With due respect, This is about TV shows- crime drama. That’s not real life, you do realise.
 
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With due respect, This is about TV shows- crime drama. That’s not real life, you do realise.

That part is an analogy of how crime drama on t.v. compared to real life crime.
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However in the real world, an alibi for a person who is accused of an offence – and who isn’t the perpetrator – is an important for anyone who is innocent of an offence.
Alibis and criminal law
 
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I’m sorry I apologise if you think it was personalised, Yes I’m very recent on this thread and I know I’ve had a lot to say in that short time. You can be a recent poster and at the same time have been following this case very closely and watching for a very long time . I don’t think it’s fair to discount anyone here about there longevity in this case. I’m pretty sure I know the ins and outs from day one very very well.
Better than some, it seems BL. And you’re objective. No personal agendas. Your posts are greatly appreciated. IMO.
 
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Of course it is, otherwise why are we all here going around in circles? We will all see different things in each news report.
In the meantime, what evidence? A child is missing, that seems to be the only thing that is certain.

Read my comment in context please, instead of going around in circles.

What evidence? What evidence do you have to prove his innocence?

We may see things different, but BS is still a POI so at this point there is no way you can say he is not according to TOS.

IMO he is not involved, but according to Police, MSM etc he is still a POI and can be discussed.
 
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That part is an analogy of how crime drama on t.v. compared to real life crime.
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However in the real world, an alibi for a person who is accused of an offence – and who isn’t the perpetrator – is an important for anyone who is innocent of an offence.
Alibis and criminal law
Yes alibis are crucial. I’m still waiting to see if Billy Boy’s holds up. Hope they do. Otherwise he’s definitely hiding something or protecting someone or some people.
 
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I also found this bit interesting from the same article
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What happens if an alibi put forward is false?
Many people would presume that if an accused or a witness has provided a false alibi, then it is case closed. Because only a guilty person would put forward a false alibi, right? However, case law has stated, that when dealing with an alibi that is false, the approach which is required has to be nuanced in regards to an accused or witness, because there may be a number of legitimate reasons as to why an alibi that has been provided, is false.
 
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I also found this bit interesting from the same article
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What happens if an alibi put forward is false?
Many people would presume that if an accused or a witness has provided a false alibi, then it is case closed. Because only a guilty person would put forward a false alibi, right? However, case law has stated, that when dealing with an alibi that is false, the approach which is required has to be nuanced in regards to an accused or witness, because there may be a number of legitimate reasons as to why an alibi that has been provided, is false.
Yep, like taking a little boy, IMO.

Night night. Can’t insert old emoji :(
 
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Of course it is, otherwise why are we all here going around in circles? We will all see different things in each news report.
In the meantime, what evidence? A child is missing, that seems to be the only thing that is certain.

BTW - Sleuthing is:

sleuthing Meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary

the act of discovering information about crimes or other activities, and finding out who or what is responsible for them:
Some sleuthing from our investigative reporter uncovered some interesting information on Parkinson.

So NOT questioning information..........it is discovering information.
 
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Read my comment in context please, instead of going around in circles.

What evidence? What evidence do you have to prove his innocence?

We may see things different, but BS is still a POI so at this point there is no way you can say he is not according to TOS.

IMO he is not involved, but according to Police, MSM etc he is still a POI and can be discussed.
I don't need any evidence to prove him innocent. I don't know how he is involved, other than what is a fact and that is, he was at the house prior and intended to return with a part on an unspecified date. To date, police have not told us anything else, they searched his house, his business, his vehicles, nothing released about them yet. I am not saying he is not a POI, he clearly is.
 
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Yes alibis are crucial. I’m still waiting to see if Billy Boy’s holds up. Hope they do. Otherwise he’s definitely hiding something or protecting someone or some people.

I imagine Margaret will be pretty upset if she finds out she has been covering for him and he has been having an affair.
 
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I also found this bit interesting from the same article
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What happens if an alibi put forward is false?
Many people would presume that if an accused or a witness has provided a false alibi, then it is case closed. Because only a guilty person would put forward a false alibi, right? However, case law has stated, that when dealing with an alibi that is false, the approach which is required has to be nuanced in regards to an accused or witness, because there may be a number of legitimate reasons as to why an alibi that has been provided, is false.

If it is false it is up to the Police to prove that it is False.

My comments are in regard to Police v Courts. There is a difference.
 
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I don't need any evidence to prove him innocent. I don't know how he is involved, other than what is a fact and that is, he was at the house prior and intended to return with a part on an unspecified date. To date, police have not told us anything else, they searched his house, his business, his vehicles, nothing released about them yet. I am not saying he is not a POI, he clearly is.

Yeah you do if you want to defend him.

Besides the fact he was at the house, he knew family with children were coming to visit, he rang the day William disappeared, he deleted his call logs, he can't substantiate his alibi.....etc etc etc.
 
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Yeah you do if you want to defend him.

Besides the fact he was at the house, he knew family with children were coming to visit, he rang the day William disappeared, he deleted his call logs, he can't substantiate his alibi.....etc etc etc.
You make the mistake that questioning MSM reports is defending a POI.
 
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Yeah you do if you want to defend him.

Besides the fact he was at the house, he knew family with children were coming to visit, he rang the day William disappeared, he deleted his call logs, he can't substantiate his alibi.....etc etc etc.
Then why hasn't he been arrested yet?
 
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