Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #38

[sleepinoz]

Thankyou , so it’s possible he is there on his own merit rather than actually being compelled to come forward ? If that makes sense

I'm at a loss to understand, if he is giving evidence on his own merit, why is he given the chance to speak to the Directions Hearing, via speaker phone, to advise of his legal representative and appearance when other witnesses weren't given that opportunity.

 

[Thebottomline]

I'm at a loss to understand, if he is giving evidence on his own merit, why is he given the chance to speak to the Directions Hearing, via speaker phone, to advise of his legal representative and appearance when other witnesses weren't given that opportunity.

I know, very confusing and I’m certainly not qualified to even guess when it comes to the legal side of things. You seem a lot more like you understand the legal side of things than me so if you’re confused then I’m really confused !!

 

[sosocurious]

I'm at a loss to understand, if he is giving evidence on his own merit, why is he given the chance to speak to the Directions Hearing, via speaker phone, to advise of his legal representative and appearance when other witnesses weren't given that opportunity.

Maybe he has been able to seek leave because expected evidence from upcoming witnesses may shed some doubt in his direction. Self interest to be heard and ask questions. If that makes sense.

 

[sosocurious]

I know, very confusing and I’m certainly not qualified to even guess when it comes to the legal side of things. You seem a lot more like you understand the legal side of things than me so if you’re confused then I’m really confused !!

Ditto
No harm in trying to guess.

 

[SouthAussie]

So Mr Savage's legal representation when organised can ask the witnesses questions?

If you are not a relative of the missing person and wish to ask questions of witnesses, it is advised you seek leave to appear at the inquest by making a written request to the Coroner prior to an inquest. You must demonstrate to the Coroner that you have something instrumental to add to the inquest by appearing. If the Coroner considers you to have sufficient interest, leave may be granted. This means you will be given permission to question witnesses.

https://www.victimsservices.justice.nsw.gov.au/Documents/fmp44_coroners.pdf

I am not sure that Mr Savage's legal representative can ask questions, unless Mr Savage is considered to be a friend of the family. The document that we have both referenced and I have been reading pertains to family and friends only ... not other witnesses.

 

[Thebottomline]

Ditto
No harm in trying to guess.

Not at all, thank goodness for posters like you seem to understand the process a lot better than some like me !

 

[SouthAussie]

I'm at a loss to understand, if he is giving evidence on his own merit, why is he given the chance to speak to the Directions Hearing, via speaker phone, to advise of his legal representative and appearance when other witnesses weren't given that opportunity.

Perhaps he already knows that he has been included as a witness in the schedule for March?
The DT article did not say Mr Savage was summoned to appear. It did say Spedding was summoned to appear.
Nor did it say the foster parents were summoned to appear. It came across as very empathetic toward them. Mentioning that the coroner's lawyer asked them how they were, and Jubes was right by their side.
Mr Savage may be an important witness for this first part of the inquest, where they may concentrate on their first (and perhaps primary) POI/suspect.

 

[Thebottomline]

Perhaps he already knows that he has been included as a witness in the schedule for March?
The DT article did not say Mr Savage was summoned to appear. It did say Spedding was summoned to appear.
Mr Savage may be an important witness for this first part of the inquest, where they may concentrate on their first (and perhaps primary) POI/suspect.

It makes sense too where you said earlier whatever information he has may have been withheld for his own protection too .

 

[sosocurious]

Not at all, thank goodness for posters like you seem to understand the process a lot better than some like me !

No I don't ...lol

 

[Thebottomline]

When you google random coronial inquest results you find witnesses being referred to as a number or letter as in person B or person S or some other generic term as to conceal their identity . I wonder if we will see this here or wether it will be totally transparent ?

 

[Wexford]

I'm at a loss to understand, if he is giving evidence on his own merit, why is he given the chance to speak to the Directions Hearing, via speaker phone, to advise of his legal representative and appearance when other witnesses weren't given that opportunity.

Is it possible he is infirm and cannot get there?

 

[sleepinoz]

Perhaps he already knows that he has been included as a witness in the schedule for March?
The DT article did not say Mr Savage was summoned to appear. It did say Spedding was summoned to appear.
Nor did it say the foster parents were summoned to appear. It came across as very empathetic toward them. Mentioning that the coroner's lawyer asked them how they were, and Jubes was right by their side.
Mr Savage may be an important witness for this first part of the inquest, where they may concentrate on their first (and perhaps primary) POI/suspect.

The only reason we know that Spedding was summoned is because his legal representative told MSM/us, so we really don't know who was summoned to appear.

The usual way, according to my link, is that POI's are usually called last and are permitted to sit in court while evidence is given.

“Persons of interest” or persons against whom adverse comment may be made, for example, police officers directly involved in the operation during which a person died are, as a matter of fairness, usually called last.

The usual practice is that they are given the opportunity to sit in court during the evidence given by other witnesses to which they can respond when their turns come. Coroners may, if they consider it to be in the interests of justice, order witnesses to leave the courtroom until called.

Coronial matters

I'm sure Mr Savage will be an important witness, just not the same way some are thinking

 

[sleepinoz]

Is it possible he is infirm and cannot get there?

Apparently he wasn't available to attend yesterday, but will be available to attend in March.

 

[Bohemian]

Is it possible he is infirm and cannot get there?

It was because of the short notice AFAIK

 

[bearbear]

maybe ps is giving evidence regarding the person who lived in the creepy little house and since sold up and moved away, or behaviour of other neighbours, wilsons etc?

 

[Bohemian]

maybe ps is giving evidence regarding the person who lived in the creepy little house and since sold up and moved away, or behaviour of other neighbours, wilsons etc?

Maybe. Who knows? So far, Mr Savage’s purpose at William’s inquest is puzzling. It’s a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma.

 

[Thebottomline]

maybe ps is giving evidence regarding the person who lived in the creepy little house and since sold up and moved away, or behaviour of other neighbours, wilsons etc?

Yes, it could be anything . What did he see that day .

 

[JLZ]

I have a notion the Spedding camp will be pointing to PS as a viable suspect.

 

[Thebottomline]

Maybe. Who knows? So far, Mr Savage’s purpose at William’s inquest is puzzling. It’s a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma.

Yes. I wonder if the other residents will be involved . The wilsons , the mother that had the foster parents come to her house searching , could be many more

 

[Thebottomline]

I have a notion the Spedding camp will be pointing to PS as a viable suspect.

I wonder if MS will be called up ?And Katrina , TJ’s relative that spoke on ACA - the list goes on