Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #41

[purpleandgreen]

Well, a member does see all the posts if they read the thread when not logged in.
It is only when logged in that a member's ignore list comes into play.

Thought I would mention that in case anyone has papertrail's type of question again. Just log out and then every post and reply shows up.

There is also an option at the bottom of each page that says 'Show Ignored Content' (when logged in, and if there is ignored content on that page). A member can click on that, and all of the content you personally are ignoring on that page shows up.

In my experience, it is useful to know for when a member sees a reply and wants to know what post it is referring to. It is frequently a reply that is responding to ignored content.

Hi SA, Just wondering and think you might be able to help. If somone claims to have inside information, do they need to be verified? Especially before talking about it?

 

[SouthAussie]

Hi SA, Just wondering and think you might be able to help. If somone claims to have inside information, do they need to be verified? Especially before talking about it?

"The verification process also applies to "case insiders". Relatives, friends, and others personally acquainted with a victim or a suspect; or a professional working on behalf of a victim or the family, (I.e., a private investigator), can submit a request to be verified as a "case insider".

NOTE: Websleuths does not condone members becoming personally involved in cases by initiating contact with family members, law enforcement, or the media. This does not preclude responding to a request for volunteers, or utilizing proper channels to report valid information, i.e., "a tip", to law enforcement."
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Other than that, unofficial/non-MSM social media content is not allowed, as we all know.
And if there are questions about the content a member wants to post, a mod should be contacted for guidance.

You may want to put this info into a post of your own though.

 

[Wexford]

Is there a link between PS and BS? PS did say 'off the cuff ' he did not know BS.
The search of BS properties were before Jube's took over as lead. So I guess someone else might have to explain their methods as well.

When I was reading the book Change Makers (the chapter on Jube's) he says regardless of what occurs, whether we charge someone or not, it will be scrutinised by a court - it could be a coronial inquest or the supreme court - given the nature and severity of the crime, so you've got to be able to justify your decisions.....................
you become battle hardened from spending a lot of time in court, where you have highly paid barristers who have the luxury of reviewing your work.

Change Makers is linked a few threads back. Or just google it with Gary Jubelins name.

BBM
I don't know of any links but I am interested to see if there are. There is so little known about PS it is hard to know. I wonder if he was a member of one of the grandparent as parent groups? They are both of the same demographic but that is little to go on.

 

[SouthAussie]

BBM
I don't know of any links but I am interested to see if there are. There is so little known about PS it is hard to know. I wonder if he was a member of one of the grandparent as parent groups? They are both of the same demographic but that is little to go on.

From memory, and I can't find the old link at the moment though I think it is spoken of way back in the threads (so you will have to take this as vague memory), Savage was a past member of SES and also was involved with a local footy club.

I think Spedding's step-grandchild/ren played footy? Not sure of their individual club affiliations though.

 

[purpleandgreen]

"The verification process also applies to "case insiders". Relatives, friends, and others personally acquainted with a victim or a suspect; or a professional working on behalf of a victim or the family, (I.e., a private investigator), can submit a request to be verified as a "case insider".

NOTE: Websleuths does not condone members becoming personally involved in cases by initiating contact with family members, law enforcement, or the media. This does not preclude responding to a request for volunteers, or utilizing proper channels to report valid information, i.e., "a tip", to law enforcement."
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Other than that, unofficial/non-MSM social media content is not allowed, as we all know.
And if there are questions about the content a member wants to post, we all should contact a mod for guidance.

You may want to put this info into a post of your own though.

Thanks SA. I knew you'd know. Cheers.

 

[Ms Cadfael]

September 13 - Police reveal they found a burned out car wreck belonging to a former person of interest.

I didn't realise this was a fact. I had heard chat of of the car being similar to one owned by TJ, but here they that burnt out car in the bush near FGM, was a former P.O.I's car. Was it TJ's then?? That's a very interesting tidbit. Uncanny.

Former William Tyrrell lead investigator to be questioned at inquest | Daily Mail Online

 

[Ms Cadfael]

September 13 - Police reveal they found a burned out car wreck belonging to a former person of interest.

I didn't realise this was a fact. I had heard chat of of the car being similar to one owned by TJ, but here they that burnt out car in the bush near FGM, was a former P.O.I's car. Was it TJ's then?? That's a very interesting tidbit. Uncanny.


Former William Tyrrell lead investigator to be questioned at inquest | Daily Mail Online

..And, a "former person of interest" - Does that mean he is no longer a P.O.I??
BBM.

 

[Thebottomline]

September 13 - Police reveal they found a burned out car wreck belonging to a former person of interest.

I didn't realise this was a fact. I had heard chat of of the car being similar to one owned by TJ, but here they that burnt out car in the bush near FGM, was a former P.O.I's car. Was it TJ's then?? That's a very interesting tidbit. Uncanny.

Former William Tyrrell lead investigator to be questioned at inquest | Daily Mail Online

Sure is

 

[SouthAussie]

..And, a "former person of interest" - Does that mean he is no longer a P.O.I??
BBM.

Yes. That is what it would mean. He has been cleared.

Possibly his alibi holds up. Possibly his phone pings show that he was nowhere near Benaroon Drive on that fateful morning. Possibly a metal recycler has confirmed that he was there when William went missing. Possibly a pub/bottle shop said he was there at that time ....

Many of us thought he was too erratic, too explosive, and had been caught so many times (90+ arrests) that it would have been next to impossible for him to have not been arrested by now, if he was involved.

I think that Jubes is far too experienced and knowledgeable, has far too much police instinct as well as all relevant info at his fingertips, to have been on the wrong track with his focuses on certain people.
I think he tried very hard to count people out as quickly as was possible, so they could narrow down their list of POIs to strictly the real possibilities.

 

[Ms Cadfael]

Yes. That is what it would mean. He has been cleared.

Possibly his alibi holds up. Possibly his phone pings show that he was nowhere near Benaroon Drive on that fateful morning. Possibly a metal recycler has confirmed that he was there when William went missing ....

I wonder why the fact he is no long a P.O.I was not more highly publicised? I must say that reports on him have gone very quiet the last 6 months. But I never heard elsewhere that an alibi had been proven or he was no longer considered.
Plot thickens and the list narrows...

 

[Thebottomline]

Yes. That is what it would mean. He has been cleared.

Possibly his alibi holds up. Possibly his phone pings show that he was nowhere near Benaroon Drive on that fateful morning. Possibly a metal recycler has confirmed that he was there when William went missing. Possibly a pub/bottle shop said he was there at that time ....

Many of us thought he was too erratic, too explosive, and had been caught so many time (90+ arrests) that it would have been next to impossible for him to have not been arrested by now, if he was involved.

Quite a few articles name BS as a former Poi too
Tyrrell former-suspect arrested on other child sex offences

 

[Ms Cadfael]

Quite a few articles name BS as a former Poi too
Tyrrell former-suspect arrested on other child sex offences

Yeh, but even further than that, they used "suspect" in that article. Was he ever named a "suspect' by Police? That's different to P.O.I. IMO

I sometimes wonder about modern day MSM though..they don't appear to be too precise and often different articles by different journos will say the opposite of each other. MOO

 

[SouthAussie]

Quite a few articles name BS as a former Poi too
Tyrrell former-suspect arrested on other child sex offences

I read an article the other day that said neither Spedding nor Savage were POIs. What does that mean then? That they are suspects? That they are solely witnesses? Witnesses to what?
If their alibis hold up, then they are potentially witnesses to nothing.

We know the language changed to suspects much later in the investigation - "5 suspects", one being a washing machine repairman - not long before the inquest was called. I think MSM is being very careful due to litigation-happy people.

 

[Thebottomline]

I read an article the other day that said neither Spedding nor Savage were POIs. What does that mean then? That they are suspects? That they are solely witnesses? Witnesses to what?
If their alibis hold up, then they are potentially witnesses to nothing.

We know the language changed to suspects later in the investigation, right before the inquest was called. I think MSM is being very careful due to litigation-happy people.

I guess we don’t know who will be called up at inquest ? Or do we , is there any official list

 

[Ms Cadfael]

I guess we don’t know who will be called up at inquest ? Or do we , is there any official list

Are we, the interested public entitled to know if there are suspects and/or persons of interest in a case and who they are? Can we request this information as "concerned citizens"? Or is it up to the Police to release this when they see fit so as not to endanger further investigation?

 

[Thebottomline]

Are we, the interested public entitled to know if there are suspects and/or persons of interest in a case and who they are? Can we request this information as "concerned citizens"? Or is it up to the Police to release this when they see fit so as not to endanger further investigation?

I have no idea, i just wondered if there was perhaps a reported list of attendees asked to appear

 

[Thebottomline]

Are we, the interested public entitled to know if there are suspects and/or persons of interest in a case and who they are? Can we request this information as "concerned citizens"? Or is it up to the Police to release this when they see fit so as not to endanger further investigation?

I wonder cause I wouldn’t be surprised to see some talked about here to appear

 

[Bohemian]

September 13 - Police reveal they found a burned out car wreck belonging to a former person of interest.

I didn't realise this was a fact. I had heard chat of of the car being similar to one owned by TJ, but here they that burnt out car in the bush near FGM, was a former P.O.I's car. Was it TJ's then?? That's a very interesting tidbit. Uncanny.

Former William Tyrrell lead investigator to be questioned at inquest | Daily Mail Online

Here is the original story about the ‘burned out wreck’ to refresh our memories:

‘It is believed the vehicle belonged to Tony Jones, a convicted paedophilewho was at one point a person of interest in the little boy’s disappearance, Nine’s A Current Affairreports.’

‘The abandoned vehicle resembled the same make and model Mr Jones used to drive, according to the person who discovered it.’

Could burnt-out car help lead police to William Tyrrell?

I don’t think it was ever confirmed by investigators as fact that the car did belong to a former POI.

 

[Ms Cadfael]

Here is the original story about the ‘burned out wreck’ to refresh our memories:

‘It is believed the vehicle belonged to Tony Jones, a convicted paedophilewho was at one point a person of interest in the little boy’s disappearance, Nine’s A Current Affairreports.’

‘The abandoned vehicle resembled the same make and model Mr Jones used to drive, according to the person who discovered it.’

Could burnt-out car help lead police to William Tyrrell?

I don’t think it was ever confirmed as fact that the car did belong to a former POI, just that it was a similar make and model.

Yes, that's how I remember the story. However, the linked article states that "Police reveal they found a burned out car wreck belonging to a former person of interest." BBM.
Having the person whom discovered it say it is similar and having the Police say it is in fact his car is very different IMO...No?
Is this just poor MSM reporting again, or have the Police confirmed it I wonder?

 

[Bohemian]

Yes, that's how I remember the story. However, the linked article states that "Police reveal they found a burned out car wreck belonging to a former person of interest." BBM.
Having the person whom discovered it say it is similar and having the Police say it is in fact his car is very different IMO...No?
Is this just poor MSM reporting again, or have the Police confirmed it I wonder?

I know what the linked article says but, in my opinion, the Daily Mail is not known for its accuracy. That’s why I posted the original story from Nine who ran it on A Current Affair. I’d say it’s poor reporting from the DM unless there is another article that states the wreck was the former POI’s.