Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #46

[bearbear]

Former head of the William Tyrrell investigation says he says he thinks he knows who took the boy
Cop thinks he knows who took William Tyrrell

 

[mussopossum]

I have to say, I am confused as to what sort of a 'win' it was to actually have the information about William and his bio parents made public. I know that the judge allowed it but in the scheme of things, has it helped or progressed the investigation in any way at all?
I agree the secrecy made one suspicious but once the bio parents were named and recognised as being his bio parents and the people who had previously been named as his parents were known to be foster parents, what did it actually achieve?
We were told they had been cleared of his disappearance. But by being named they were put under the spotlight of suspicion by the general public.
The bio parents (especially the mother) seem to have suffered greatly for it.
But as far as finding William, did it make a difference? If it did I have yet to see it.

I don’t agree that Williams bio parents should have been named and shown. It most likely had add a huge amount of strain on them and invaded their privacy. My post was not in any way stating I agree with that.

My post was more about That group pushing for an inquest couple years ago and would it have made a difference back then if an inquest had been held earlier in finding William or those responsible.

Would the amount information we have heard of now been available back then? Were there tactical reasons involved?

Both Williams bios have been dragged through the mud since and had to deal with public scrutiny since being named.

I just Wanted to confirm that I was not supporting the way in which had the Bio parents named or in them even being named at all as I do not support that. It was the petition for an inquest I was referring to.

 

[bearbear]

if gj has been watching people being questioned at the inquest would he still be allowed to pass any observations on to the other detectives handling the case?
because he has been living and breathing this case from the beginning he will have observed a lot of characters and instinctively feel when somethings not right, things the other detectives may have missed

 

[mussopossum]

if gj has been watching people being questioned at the inquest would he still be allowed to pass any observations on to the other detectives handling the case?
because he has been living and breathing this case from the beginning he will have observed a lot of characters and instinctively feel when somethings not right, things the other detectives may have missed

Good question.

The fact that he has pending charges he is fighting and no longer a sworn officer I would of thought no.

But that’s just my thoughts

 

[bearbear]

all the information,sightings, witnesses, cars pois etc etc which has been withheld from msm im sure is for a very good tactical reason, the person/s who disappeared william may be very very clever and totally planned and covered their tracks, there mustnt be any hint of police getting close to catching them, they need to feel untouchable, i think gj knows exactly what happened and was in for the long haul, hes very clever and im sure wont give up on little william

 

[Karinna]

if gj has been watching people being questioned at the inquest would he still be allowed to pass any observations on to the other detectives handling the case?
because he has been living and breathing this case from the beginning he will have observed a lot of characters and instinctively feel when somethings not right, things the other detectives may have missed

I would think any valuable information GJ had through his part of the investigation would of been passed on to that investigation?
Isn't there a chance he can still participate in the Inquest if the Coroner decides it is okay, perhaps when the Inquest next resumes?

 

[bearbear]

The fight of his life
Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin was part of the justice system — but even before his shock resignation last month, he seemed to see himself outside it.

By DAN BOX
this is a really good article about gary jubelin talking about the bowraville murders, by dan box for the australian, june 29 2019,
i managed to read but its paywalled, apologies if its already been posted
NoCookies | The Australian

 

[purpleandgreen]

Well IMO it isn't a cold case yet, but sometimes it can take a long time to find out what could of possibly happened to the missing child, and some cases do come to a standstill if an investigation can't find any further information, like some of the American missing child cases i have followed. It must be very difficult for an investigation when there is nowhere else to go with it, sadly. LE can only do so much. All IMO.

There was no suggestion that it is, just that it would be tragic if that happened:

'They would however want to know that investigations were continuing and that William hasn’t become a cold case. IMO. Such an unspeakable tragedy if it does. IMO ' #813

 

[purpleandgreen]

Given that not all family "associates" have been cleared, and that some elements of the family have complained about unequal access to information, and a few other things, I think it's not too surprising that the flow to both sides has now been restricted.

That's of course if they sought out information & asked to be kept informed. There doesn't seem to be anything to confirm that this happened, except for BGM complaining that she hadn't been interviewed, from memory. IMO.

 

[Ms Kite]

if gj has been watching people being questioned at the inquest would he still be allowed to pass any observations on to the other detectives handling the case?
because he has been living and breathing this case from the beginning he will have observed a lot of characters and instinctively feel when somethings not right, things the other detectives may have missed

I can't see why not? Detectives use a range of different sources for information, including members of the public. Intel from Jubes would be no different from someone calling Crimestoppers to report information. He wants this case solved as much as anyone involved.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Cop thinks he knows who took William Tyrrell

Mr Jubelin’s case is listed for hearing on September 24.

His public appearance comes as a new person of interest has been revealed in the William Tyrrell case.

The person who once lived at a sawmill that was searched a fortnight ago will give evidence at the inquest next year.

 

[katydid23]

I wonder who Jubelin was speaking of. BS? PS? Owen?

Any thoughts?

 

[Ms Kite]

Man confessed to murder nearly two decades after 12yo went missing, court hears

I know this isn't WT related but it does show the importance of witness observations even decades later.

I'm sad to finally learn the fate of Quanne... I hope it provides some closure to her family though.

What is it with white vans and child molesters????

 

[Ms Kite]

I wonder who Jubelin was speaking of. BS? PS? Owen?

Any thoughts?

Could be someone not yet identified in MSM too.

 

[Loxoli]

I wonder who Jubelin was speaking of. BS? PS? Owen?

Any thoughts?

Honestly, I’m having a hard time narrowing it down. FA is high on my radar though. I’d like to know more about his whereabouts that day. I think it’s safe to say that the coroner thinks the FA lead is worth pursuing, given the recent search at the sawmill. IMO

 

[madoodi]

Hi everyone

I was a whole thread behind and have just caught up!

At the end of the inquest hearings I was hopeful after RC said he saw little William being driven away. However, after the announcement that FA is a POI, I am now filled with even more worry for William. Is it possible that FA knew GO was meant to fix FGM's decking and when GO was unwell or unable to, he decided to go up there and see if he could just fix it himself for extra cash and then came across William- IMO.

Also I saw a question up thread but don't think i saw an answer: does anyone know which type of car the postie drove?
Thanks

 

[Wexford]

I don’t agree that Williams bio parents should have been named and shown. It most likely had add a huge amount of strain on them and invaded their privacy. My post was not in any way stating I agree with that.

My post was more about That group pushing for an inquest couple years ago and would it have made a difference back then if an inquest had been held earlier in finding William or those responsible.

Would the amount information we have heard of now been available back then? Were there tactical reasons involved?

Both Williams bios have been dragged through the mud since and had to deal with public scrutiny since being named.

I just Wanted to confirm that I was not supporting the way in which had the Bio parents named or in them even being named at all as I do not support that. It was the petition for an inquest I was referring to.

All good. It wasn't aimed at you, it was just an observation following on from P&G's comment regarding some people and their own agendas in this case.

 

[SLouTh]

Hi everyone

Also I saw a question up thread but don't think i saw an answer: does anyone know which type of car the postie drove?
Thanks

Hi M

From my knowledge the Posties car has never been divulged to the public ... but I could be wrong...

Evidence re Posties times given by female at 1st inquest... but have also read of a male postie in Mr Chapman’s Street... ( but cant find link for that... )

 

[Wexford]

I wonder who Jubelin was speaking of. BS? PS? Owen?

Any thoughts?

He did interview PS at length and recorded some of those interviews. I think GJ is pretty sure he knows something important.

 

[SouthAussie]

He did interview PS at length and recorded some of those interviews. I think GJ is pretty sure he knows something important.

Yes, I think your thoughts are correct. And judging by Savage's 3-day stint on the inquest stand, and the questions that were asked of witnesses in the March part of the inquest, I think Mr Craddock and the Coroner think so too.