Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #50

[Ms Kite]

Why?? Because we haven’t been told anything shady about him.... yet.. how good is his eyesight at his age I wonder? Was he wearing glasses? If this car with a woman driving was going as fast as he claims then how can we be so certain on the details he gave regarding the woman’s age colour of top size of body and colour n style of their hair which was apparently in a bun.. RC got all that information as well as William sitting in the back of that car, unrestrained, looking out the window, wearing his Spider-Man suit n not crying.. all that information in let’s say 5seconds..seems a lil too good to be true

It is difficult to understand why he didn't report it straight away (for me as well) but he eventually did and he has weathered all sorts of public criticism for it. I haven't heard any reports of a shady background and it comes to light then obviously I'll change my opinion.

In the meantime, I have no reason to think he is unbelievable.

I might add that thinking he is believable is different from saying that he is correct in what he saw....

 

[JLZ]

We also don't know anything about the postie's past history and whether she has put out AVOs on other men in the past? I know for a fact there are at least *some* crazy-ladies in the world, who might totally misconstrue things. I think we haven't found any criminal convictions against PS? But meanwhile, we do know there have been criminal accusations and/or convictions featuring children in regard to some other POIs such as BS, FA, RD? Wouldn't it have slipped out about PS as well if that were the case?

I believe breaching an AVO is a criminal offence. (I asked Google.)

Women might miscontrue things. Typically what happens is either she herself asks the man to stop what he's doing or somebody else does. And he might be indignant and offended but if he's got any sense or sensitivity, he stops doing it, however innocent and harmless he believes himself to be. It's gone way past that for an AVO to have been put in place, let alone breached.

 

[sleepinoz]

Admittedly, it would be better if they would ask someone currently directly involved in the case to answer that question, however my guess is that word on this case travels fast within the department and especially amongst those who have worked on the case, present and past. Like others have pointed out however, if PS were ever accused and put on trial, I would hate to think about testimony and evidence being ruled out because all of this was aired publicly in the past. Where is 'Cleaver Green'? imo.

They probably will ask someone directly involved at the Inquest. This is GJ's trial and she was around when the recordings were made.

Still, she didn't exclude him, she only said that to her knowledge he wasn't "an active person of interest" - she doesn't say former. Indicating to me that he is still a POI, only they are not actively looking into him for now.

 

[JLZ]

They probably will ask someone directly involved at the Inquest. This is GJ's trial and she was around when the recordings were made.

Still, she didn't exclude him, she only said that to her knowledge he wasn't "an active person of interest" - she doesn't say former. Indicating to me that he is still a POI, only they are not actively looking into him for now.

Beacroft might know that nobody is "an active person of interest" because the taskforce has been dismantled and no investigations are being actively pursued.

Does anyone know if Rosann is still in existence with ongoing staffing?

 

[Blues Clues]

Personally, I think it's unlikely that he was accidently run over. Surely the sniffer dogs would've picked up his scent on the street if that had happened. I think Jublelin was using that line of thinking as a soft option for PS to take up in the first instance if he had guilt to offload.

The kerbs in Benaroon Dr are low and slanted making them easy to drive across. IF he was hit by a car and bearing in mind the dogs lost his scent at the edge of the property, I imagine the car was doing a U-turn or a 3 point turn and in the process crossed the kerb onto the grass.

 

[kiwi50]

I just hope that all the neighbours in the street have had the same scrutiny applied to them as PS has had.

 

[sosocurious]

Beacroft might know that nobody is "an active person of interest" because the taskforce has been dismantled and no investigations are being actively pursued.

Does anyone know if Rosann is still in existence with ongoing staffing?

I was just thinking the same thing JLZ. Is Rosann active?
Wondering if Gallyot over at unsolved homicide had adopted the file.

 

[JLZ]

I just hope that all the neighbours in the street have had the same scrutiny applied to them as PS has had.

There's a few in Batar Creek Road [edit!] I'm hoping received attention.

 

[sleepinoz]

Beacroft might know that nobody is "an active person of interest" because the taskforce has been dismantled and no investigations are being actively pursued.

Does anyone know if Rosann is still in existence with ongoing staffing?

I think it is, Laidlaw was mentioned at one point during the trial iirc. It has also been stated at the Inquest that the case is ongoing.

 

[SouthAussie]

I think it is, Laidlaw was mentioned at one point during the trial iirc. It has also been stated at the Inquest that the case is ongoing.

Yes, the strike force was still active in September. Who knows how many detectives are still working within the strike force 'team' though.
I imagine that they will keep the investigation going at least until the inquest concludes.

"Investigators from the homicide squad's Strike Force Rosann are continuing to conduct inquiries, as they acknowledge the fifth anniversary of the disappearance of William Tyrrell today," homicide squad head Detective Superintendent Scott Cook said.
"The investigation remains open, and a team of investigators is continuing to explore lines of inquiry and persons of interest during the coronial process."
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/police-mark-five-years-since-william-tyrrell-disappeared-20190911-p52qdl.html

 

[deugirtni]

Are we discussing what we know to be factual or are we discussing a one in a hundred possibility?

Exactly my point. Except for PS to have had the time and space and resources to do something with W and get away with it for five years plus, it would be more like one in a billion possibility. imo.

 

[deugirtni]

Yes good call but was ps that smart to think of that before digging himself a hole with his statements.. my impression is that he’s cocky more than he is clever

I'm not really sure what you mean.

 

[1968]

We only have Savages’ word what time his wife left. It’s possible that the wife was rushing about tidying up putting things away, ‘putting meat in the broiler’ prior to her departure as the brother and the wife were coming, once she was asked at some later point what time she left she may have been unsure.

PS on the other hand is to the minute. He’s got that time down pat. It’s possible that is just about the time he actually took W and he was making himself an alibi for that time.

He’s out the front for some reason - maybe looking for postie? He’s heard W roaring and seen W up there on the street and he’s unaccompanied. He knows his wife is busy getting ready. He’s knicked up there and grabbed him, put his hand over his mouth and gone back down to his place. Secreted W in the back of his car, tied him up gagged him possibly with a handkerchief or plastic bag and covered him over with something and gone to Heather to rush her off to Bingo.

By the time she left he’s gone back to his car and W has suffocated. This could only take minutes. He then is thinking I’m in the - I have to make an alibi and goes inside to make a cup of tea and think what to do.

I don’t know if cars and boots were searched. I doubt it as initially they were looking for a lost child not a kidnapped one. He later moved the body perhaps to the empty pool covered in corrugated iron.

The time frame is very tight but it could be done. I think if he did do it it was on impulse
And not thought out very well.

This is just me theorising and all IMOO.

 

[sleepinoz]

I think it is, Laidlaw was mentioned at one point during the trial iirc. It has also been stated at the Inquest that the case is ongoing.

Lia Harris
@LiaJHarris
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Feb 7
Cunneen is asking Dukes about what happened to Jubelin’s lengthy statement he’d prepared for the Coroner. Dukes told the court he believe now lead detective David Laidlaw “adopted” that statement after Jubelin was removed from the cases

 

[deugirtni]

FGM asked HS to tell her husband to stop coming to her home, as he was standing at her back door, un announced.

We also know that Postie was to visit FGM two days before W disappeared, therefore might we assume they are friends?

 

[sleepinoz]

We also know that Postie was to visit FGM two days before W disappeared, therefore might we assume they are friends?

It's a small country town, Posties would know most people on their route, and be friendly with the majority.

 

[deugirtni]

It is difficult to understand why he didn't report it straight away (for me as well) but he eventually did and he has weathered all sorts of public criticism for it. I haven't heard any reports of a shady background and it comes to light then obviously I'll change my opinion.

In the meantime, I have no reason to think he is unbelievable.

I might add that thinking he is believable is different from saying that he is correct in what he saw....

It was reported in MSM at one point that RC only told police when they did eventually, after I'm not sure how many weeks or months, show up at his door. I am left wondering if RC *ever* would have reported his sighting if police had not heard about it through the grapevine? But why?

 

[deugirtni]

They probably will ask someone directly involved at the Inquest. This is GJ's trial and she was around when the recordings were made.

Still, she didn't exclude him, she only said that to her knowledge he wasn't "an active person of interest" - she doesn't say former. Indicating to me that he is still a POI, only they are not actively looking into him for now.

For me, everyone is a POI until this case is solved. jmo.

 

[deugirtni]

It's a small country town, Posties would know most people on their route, and be friendly with the majority.

I'm certain that is correct, but I doubt if Postie makes plans to actually go and visit with the majority of her route at their homes unless they were friends. Evidently this was a planned event, since GJ accuses PS of having known about it, I believe?

 

[JLZ]

We also know that Postie was to visit FGM two days before W disappeared, therefore might we assume they are friends?

Postie could be a volunteer, say helping older people with administrative stuff.