Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #52

[SLouTh]

Which vehicle do we know was a grey wagon?

An SUV can be described as wagon too.....

 

[interested64]

If that’s true, then police must have had sufficient information to support the idea that the postie was in the area at the time of William’s disappearance. IMO

yes but if you heard gravel you would hear doors opening

Which vehicle do we know was a grey wagon?

the little girl said she saw William running towards daddys car

 

[JLZ]

What source does the Daily Telegraph give for the new information? I'm still not seeing anyone else pick up the story.

 

[sosocurious]

Did you listen to this? 7NEWS Sydney on Twitter
It sounds as if he phoned him soon after the video interview. He says "I seen the white top, I think it was the white top, with stripes." When Jubelin asks why he didn't mention that during the interview, he say "As I said, I just put it out of me mind".

My understanding of what he was wearing was not a "white top with stripes" or a "white top". From what we can see, it was mainly red on the front with a black spider and blue on the back with a white spider.

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31st of July 2017 was the blow up between Lambert and Jubes.
Is this when Lambert wanted to investigate postie? I recall that it was said that not many in the team supported that line.

16 August 2017 - official police interview. PS denied seeing the suit on the first day he walked the track.

paraphrased from article
5 October 2017
PS was told by GJ that it was the police that left the suit on the track. GJ said to him we know you saw the suit on the 1st day (26th July) because we have photo's of you stopping. PS denied that.

Jubelin left and conversations were picked up. Maybe him speaking with his daughter, maybe to himself. PS said things .............. white top - the white bit - the spider and the top half. He said he stopped because he was looking around.

(Sorry, hard to paraphrase a converstation. The point is he mentioned white, spider and suit. When had denied seeing it not to long before.

6 October 2017.
Savage called GJ and said - imo that is the recording linked above.


NoCookies | The Australian
Nothing black and white about William Tyrrell case

Could be wrong but that is how it fits in for me with the info we have.

So all the muttering about white tops, blah, blah.... was already legally recorded the day before Savage called Jubes personally and said "Hello mate".................

Now, how long did they say it was taking to review the recordings? Days, weeks , months.

 

[Tinker Taylor]

the little girl said she saw William running towards daddys car

When my son was 4yo I worked in a busy family business. If any of us wanted to know where someone was or who brought something back, or took it (it was a hire business) nine times out of ten, he would know. People underestimate how observant kids can actually be. Maybe William did run towards Daddy's car??

 

[Karinna]

When my son was 4yo I worked in a busy family business. If any of us wanted to know where someone was or who brought something back, or took it (it was a hire business) nine times out of ten, he would know. People underestimate how observant kids can actually be. Maybe William did run towards Daddy's car??

I agree that kids that age are observant and able to say exactly what they saw.
So she seen WT run toward FF car and then what? Wonder what else she saw after that?

 

[deugirtni]

An SUV can be described as wagon too.....

Yes, I'm wondering which one is known to be grey? I had always thought we'd talked about PS's pajero(sp?) being 'white', and we know the FF's SUV was green? Just confused as to where the grey SUV is coming from? Of if it is another square peg trying to be fit into a round hole?

 

[Hilly]

Could Williams sister mean run towards where daddy’s car parks.

 

[deugirtni]

31st of July 2017 was the blow up between Lambert and Jubes.
Is this when Lambert wanted to investigate postie? I recall that it was said that not many in the team supported that line.

16 August 2017 - official police interview. PS denied seeing the suit on the first day he walked the track.

paraphrased from article
5 October 2017
PS was told by GJ that it was the police that left the suit on the track. GJ said to him we know you saw the suit on the 1st day (26th July) because we have photo's of you stopping. PS denied that.

Jubelin left and conversations were picked up. Maybe him speaking with his daughter, maybe to himself. PS said things .............. white top - the white bit - the spider and the top half. He said he stopped because he was looking around.

(Sorry, hard to paraphrase a converstation. The point is he mentioned white, spider and suit. When had denied seeing it not to long before.

6 October 2017.
Savage called GJ and said - imo that is the recording linked above.


NoCookies | The Australian
Nothing black and white about William Tyrrell case

Could be wrong but that is how it fits in for me with the info we have.

So all the muttering about white tops, blah, blah.... was already legally recorded the day before Savage called Jubes personally and said "Hello mate".................

Now, how long did they say it was taking to review the recordings? Days, weeks , months.

Why would GJ wait until October to have the discussion with PS about what he saw and when? We already know PS was thought to have issues - memory, muttering, 'mental illness'? (per GJ), grieving his wife's death, etc.. but they wait over 2 months to ask the old man about that?

 

[deugirtni]

.... Maybe William did run towards Daddy's car??

.... So she seen WT run toward FF car and then what? Wonder what else she saw after that?

Could Williams sister mean run towards where daddy’s car parks.

I had understood that FM had seen the text from FD that he'd be home in 5, so she sent the kids (or just W??) down to see if they could see daddy's car? Then FD gets home and W is gone. imo.

 

[Karinna]

Yes, I'm wondering which one is known to be grey? I had always thought we'd talked about PS's pajero(sp?) being 'white', and we know the FF's SUV was green? Just confused as to where the grey SUV is coming from? Of if it is another square peg trying to be fit into a round hole?

Exactly. The silver car/wagon is new info. as far as i can tell ?

 

[Wexford]

regarding ps viagra purchase, wouldnt he need to buy it from a pharmacy with a drs prescription, and so not needing it to be posted, i doubt he would be tech enough to buy it online

Unless there was a local Viagra dealer in Kendall? Yes I checked and it is only prescription but of course it can be bought online (and I daresay by mail order via some magazines) although it may be of dubious quality if purchased this way apparently. Either way I was more interested if he was a regular user (for whatever reason) in which case I have no further interest. If it was a one-off it opens a different line of questions to me regarding PS and his plans for that particular day.

 

[JLZ]

Why would GJ wait until October to have the discussion with PS about what he saw and when? We already know PS was thought to have issues - memory, muttering, 'mental illness'? (per GJ), grieving his wife's death, etc.. but they wait over 2 months to ask the old man about that?

Soso also mentioned an official interview on the subject on 16 August, where PS denied seeing the suit the first day. That's after PS's telephone report and perhaps other conversations. So in October GJ is cross-examining him on his statement and what do you know the story changes.

 

[Karinna]

Why would GJ wait until October to have the discussion with PS about what he saw and when? We already know PS was thought to have issues - memory, muttering, 'mental illness'? (per GJ), grieving his wife's death, etc.. but they wait over 2 months to ask the old man about that?

Yes depending on PS mental state?, he would be a non credible witness IMO.

 

[Karinna]

I had understood that FM had seen the text from FD that he'd be home in 5, so she sent the kids (or just W??) down to see if they could see daddy's car? Then FD gets home and W is gone. imo.

Apparently. That's what was stated in msm.

 

[Tinker Taylor]

Could Williams sister mean run towards where daddy’s car parks.

Wouldn't Daddy have parked on the concrete upper driveway. If William had run around the house, then the car sister saw must have been on the lower (gravel) driveway.

 

[Wexford]

What source does the Daily Telegraph give for the new information? I'm still not seeing anyone else pick up the story.

Which is interesting as several media outlets were responsible for organising the legal rep to allow the information. Not just DT.
Incidentally, I am surprised they named the postie.

 

[JLZ]

I had understood that FM had seen the text from FD that he'd be home in 5, so she sent the kids (or just W??) down to see if they could see daddy's car? Then FD gets home and W is gone. imo.

I asked here at WS about when FFC saw the text and was assured that it was after she noticed William was missing. It seems it wasn't the text that prompted her to direct the children's attention to MFC's return. So the disappearance time remains wide open.

 

[Tinker Taylor]

I had understood that FM had seen the text from FD that he'd be home in 5, so she sent the kids (or just W??) down to see if they could see daddy's car? Then FD gets home and W is gone. imo.

I could see that happening. William wanted to do something or other that had to wait until FD arrived home. FM gets the text and tells William to go down and see if he could see Daddy's car. That gives us an actual time that she last saw William and it can be confirmed by both hers and FD's phones. So, in that 5mins, a car resembling FD's pulls into the lower driveway and William runs up to it and is taken. Does this sound likely?

 

[SouthAussie]

Wouldn't Daddy have parked on the concrete upper driveway. If William had run around the house, then the car sister saw must have been on the lower (gravel) driveway.

We often wondered if Spedding pulled up to the house on that lower driveway.