Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #52

[Chrissy74]

I agree with that,he would have made some noise and would have been heard..by the fm and or the Crabbes etc

Fm recalls how on the morning when William disappears after calling out for him only minutes after his last roar that she hears nothing, no wind, no birds, “no car”, nothing.
Mr & Mrs Crabbs statement regarding the “time” they heard a car drive up to 48 Benarron Drive and turn around which they state was 10:05 and verified by Detective Beecroft. While Beecroft was at the residence of the Crabbs she observed the quietness in the street and in that quietness she could clearly hear the sound of a car as it drove through Benaroon Dr.
With that you then have to wonder why the fm stands firm on the time she gives to police as being closer to 10:30. Is it possible fm left wt unsupervised for over 15minutes (going by time 10:05) before realising he was gone? And if wt did disappear closer to 10:30 as the fm claims then why didn’t anybody including the Crabbs who happened to be in the backyard at that time or Lyndene Heslop who had just arrived home and was unloading groceries from the boot of her car hear or see a any car at that time?

 

[katydid23]

Don't be ridiculous, why would I *** out FGM?? It was either done automatically or by mods.

If you made a typo, and accidentally typed G_F_M instead of FGM, it would automatically be deleted because we are not allowed to speak about , or Go__Fund__Me accounts.

 

[KateM]

I watched the MFC walk through interview a longer version that I had not seen before.
I didn’t realise there was that open area going into Millers yard right near where William was playing and how easy it would be for him to run into their yard. I thought there was bush up there separating the yards.
I could see William running into yard especially if that big tree was on the ground that day fun to hide/climb on being Daddy Tiger.
I noticed a green swing set in the yard near clothes line not far from bush.

Could William have seen the swings and ran over to them.
Was someone in the bush/cemetery hear William roaring playing see him run over to swings grabbed him go bush then maybe to a car parked nearby.
Sorry if this has been discussed before I was just surprised about the open area going into Millers and the swing set would be hard to resist for a child.

Video: Foster father describes moments before William's disappearance | Daily Mail Online

Yes, it wasn't at all a safe yard to leave a 3 y.o. unattended, was it?

 

[katydid23]

Yes, it wasn't at all a safe yard to leave a 3 y.o. unattended, was it?

<modsnip> he was at his Grandmother's, on a quiet street in a little village. Children play in the front yards of those homes in that neighbourhood all of the time, without getting abducted.

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[Chrissy74]

<modsnip> he was at his Grandmother's, on a quiet street in a little village. Children play in the front yards of those homes in that neighbourhood all of the time, without getting abducted.

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Putting it into perspective William was 3yo. How long should a 3yo be left unsupervised for regardless of where

 

[madoodi]

Fm recalls how on the morning when William disappears after calling out for him only minutes after his last roar that she hears nothing, no wind, no birds, “no car”, nothing.
Mr & Mrs Crabbs statement regarding the “time” they heard a car drive up to 48 Benarron Drive and turn around which they state was 10:05 and verified by Detective Beecroft. While Beecroft was at the residence of the Crabbs she observed the quietness in the street and in that quietness she could clearly hear the sound of a car as it drove through Benaroon Dr.
With that you then have to wonder why the fm stands firm on the time she gives to police as being closer to 10:30. Is it possible fm left wt unsupervised for over 15minutes (going by time 10:05) before realising he was gone? And if wt did disappear closer to 10:30 as the fm claims then why didn’t anybody including the Crabbs who happened to be in the backyard at that time or Lyndene Heslop who had just arrived home and was unloading groceries from the boot of her car hear or see a any car at that time?

It's possible no car was heard at that time because at that time no car was on Benaroon. He was possibly taken on foot to the bush area to a waiting car. Quite gutsy/stupid if you ask me, if that's what's happened because the chances of getting caught are so high.

IMO

 

[Chrissy74]

Putting it into perspective William was 3yo. How long should a 3yo be left unsupervised for regardless of where

I take my previous comment back because that wasn’t my point. My point is the time discrepancies in what the fm states and what appears to be the real time .

 

[Chrissy74]

Y

It's possible no car was heard at that time because at that time no car was on Benaroon. He was possibly taken on foot to the bush area to a waiting car. Quite gutsy/stupid if you ask me, if that's what's happened because the chances of getting caught are so high.

IMO

yes quite possible

 

[Chrissy74]

Y

yes quite possible

One would have to be fairly strong to carry a child unwillingly by foot through the bush for quite a distance. No doubt if that were the case William would have been kicking or resisting in some way

 

[KateM]

The only reason I can think of is if he got sick of waiting and decided to go visit "Grandpa" at the cemetery.

Highly unlikely.

 

[SouthAussie]

<modsnip> he was at his Grandmother's, on a quiet street in a little village. Children play in the front yards of those homes in that neighbourhood all of the time, without getting abducted.

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All the perfect parents in this world, hey ... ones who have never left their capable young child playing in their/grandma's home or garden while the parent was in another room.

I recall many, many, many tales in previous threads of parents (myself included) whose children have - occasionally or at one time - been mischievous or become injured while on their own for a short time. No-one is infallible. But most of the time children can and do play safely on their own, by a certain age or maturity.

While you can hear your children, things are fine. It is when you cannot hear them that a parent goes and looks at what they are up to. Just like William's foster mum did.

 

[JLZ]

One would have to be fairly strong to carry a child unwillingly by foot through the bush for quite a distance. No doubt if that were the case William would have been kicking or resisting in some way

I think the foot scenario requires William to have gone willingly, either because he knew the person, or because he was invited to look at something, say a horse or a bike.

 

[katydid23]

Putting it into perspective William was 3yo. How long should a 3yo be left unsupervised for regardless of where

How long was he unsupervised? How long before FM realised she couldn't hear him anymore? Wasn't it just a few minutes?

 

[madoodi]

I think the foot scenario requires William to have gone willingly, either because he knew the person, or because he was invited to look at something, say a horse or a bike.

It is scary when you see the video trials that have been conducted showing parents how easily kids go with strangers. And you're right, it is usually because they are enticed by something, lollies, a puppy or going to look for a puppy.

IMO

 

[Tinker Taylor]

It is scary when you see the video trials that have been conducted showing parents how easily kids go with strangers. And you're right, it is usually because they are enticed by something, lollies, a puppy or going to look for a puppy.

IMO

Yes, everyone thinks that if he was stolen, he would be kicking and screaming.

I expect he either knew his abductor or went off happily with a stranger who promised some adventure.

 

[kiwi50]

All the perfect parents in this world, hey ... ones who have never left their capable young child playing in their/grandma's home or garden while the parent was in another room.

I recall many, many, many tales in previous threads of parents (myself included) whose children have - occasionally or at one time - been mischievous or become injured while on their own for a short time. No-one is infallible. But most of the time children can and do play safely on their own, by a certain age or maturity.

While you can hear your children, things are fine. It is when you cannot hear them that a parent goes and looks at what they are up to. Just like William's foster mum did.

Yes I wonder what perfect parents do with their children when they go to the toilet or have a shower, do they tie them up somewhere or make them sit and watch them have a shower etc.
I’m glad my children grew up without being scared of their shadow.
Most people in the world are still good and can be trusted not to steal your child, especially from your own property.

 

[Tinker Taylor]

Yes I wonder what perfect parents do with their children when they go to the toilet or have a shower, do they tie them up somewhere or make them sit and watch them have a shower etc.
I’m glad my children grew up without being scared of their shadow.
Most people in the world are still good and can be trusted not to steal your child, especially from your own property.

I had a guy try to lure me away when I was a little kid. I went inside and told Mum and she came out and gave him a piece of her mind. Turned out he was a pedo and had raped girls previously. He was a bit simple, but cunning enough. I wonder if there was someone like this around Benaroon Drive? From then on through most of my younger years, I was scared of my shadow too.

 

[Hilly]

One would have to be fairly strong to carry a child unwillingly by foot through the bush for quite a distance. No doubt if that were the case William would have been kicking or resisting in some way

Or frozen with fear

 

[KateM]

All the perfect parents in this world, hey ... ones who have never left their capable young child playing in their/grandma's home or garden while the parent was in another room.

I recall many, many, many tales in previous threads of parents (myself included) whose children have - occasionally or at one time - been mischievous or become injured while on their own for a short time. No-one is infallible. But most of the time children can and do play safely on their own, by a certain age or maturity.

While you can hear your children, things are fine. It is when you cannot hear them that a parent goes and looks at what they are up to. Just like William's foster mum did.

In a fenced property, I would agree with you.

 

[KateM]

How long was he unsupervised? How long before FM realised she couldn't hear him anymore? Wasn't it just a few minutes?

We don't really know the answer to that question, do we?