Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #52

[Angeline]

Mr Chapman seems very consistent and definite about what he saw, which has been rare throughout this case. I hope there is something out there to corroborate what he is saying. It's very difficult to get "fawn" and dark blue mixed up. He was insistent that the other car (the sedan) was blue so I doubt he is colour blind.

 

[JLZ]

Mr Chapman seems very consistent and definite about what he saw, which has been rare throughout this case. I hope there is something out there to corroborate what he is saying. It's very difficult to get "fawn" and dark blue mixed up. He was insistent that the other car (the sedan) was blue so I doubt he is colour blind.

He's consistent and definite, but take note of his answers to questions like What is it that makes you sure/How did you form that opinion. Sometimes he can give reasons, sometimes he can't. On balance I'm moving toward thinking that he didn't see William.

 

[Karinna]

He's consistent and definite, but take note of his answers to questions like What is it that makes you sure/How did you form that opinion. Sometimes he can give reasons, sometimes he can't. On balance I'm moving toward thinking that he didn't see William.

I agree and don't think Jubelin put too much stock into what Chapman said he witnessed either.

 

[Blues Clues]

Looking at possible route taken.

If William was abducted sometime between 10.05 and 10.30 and taken somewhere close until it was realised a search for him was quickly escalating and then there was a mad dash via Laurel Street around 10.45 - the perpetrator would not travel past the CCTV at the tennis club if they were heading out to Logans Crossing Rd and on to Herons Creek as shown by the blue route on this map.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

He's consistent and definite, but take note of his answers to questions like What is it that makes you sure/How did you form that opinion. Sometimes he can give reasons, sometimes he can't. On balance I'm moving toward thinking that he didn't see William.

I agree, I think he's mistaken and over time he's convinced himself it was definitely William. If he was 100% sure at the time, he would have personally gone to the police. The way he did go about telling someone was like he wasn't sure at all but he observed an incident, and said so.

 

[JLZ]

Looking at possible route taken.

If William was abducted sometime between 10.05 and 10.30 and taken somewhere close until it was realised a search for him was quickly escalating and then there was a mad dash via Laurel Street around 10.45 - the perpetrator would not travel past the CCTV at the tennis club if they were heading out to Logans Crossing Rd and on to Herons Creek as shown by the blue route on this map.

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Could you please remind me where the tennis club was?

 

[PrimeSuspect]

A man living in the NSW town where toddler William Tyrrell was last seen is "sure" he saw the boy in the back of a fast-moving car, a court has heard.

Mr Chapman said he didn't know William at the time but recognised him after seeing a TV news report about the boy's disappearance.

'I'm sure it was William Tyrrell', witness tells missing boy inquest

 

[JLZ]

I agree and don't think Jubelin put too much stock into what Chapman said he witnessed either.

I'm certainly not saying that the possibility it was William shouldn't have been thoroughly checked out.

 

[bearbear]

are they having a long lunch break or is court closed to the public today?
i thought thered be more reporting coming out?

 

[JLZ]

She heard you, Bear.

Lia Harris
@LiaJHarris
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Debbie Jones has now taken the stand. She was previously married to person of interest Tony Jones, who is a convicted child sex offender.

 

[Ms Kite]

are they having a long lunch break or is court closed to the public today?
i thought thered be more reporting coming out?

Certainly seems like a slow start...

 

[PrimeSuspect]

hmmm, we're getting into the gritty stuff now :/

 

[Karinna]

I'm certainly not saying that the possibility it was William shouldn't have been thoroughly checked out.

Yes definitely it should of been checked.
But i recall also what Jubelin said recently during his Trial as the lead investigator into WT's case, that there has been no DNA, forensics or witnesses as to what happened to William.
And a very difficult case to work on. There has been so much they have investigated into, some 6oo POI's etc. It really is a baffling case IMO, and not sure what the Coroner's findings will be when this CI is done? To try and determine if there is any possibility as to WT being still out there alive or not? But yet someone out there knows exactly where he is and perpetrated this crime. It's so sad there are no answers yet. All IMO.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Lia Harris
@LiaJHarris

Ms Jones is being questioned about the friendship between Tony Jones and Paul Bickford, who has also been convicted of a child sex offence.

 

[JWSleuth]

hmmm, we're getting into the gritty stuff now :/

Took the words right out of my mouth!

 

[Tinker Taylor]

He's consistent and definite, but take note of his answers to questions like What is it that makes you sure/How did you form that opinion. Sometimes he can give reasons, sometimes he can't. On balance I'm moving toward thinking that he didn't see William.

Some people have the ability to be very observant. I'd be careful about dismissing what might well be the only eye witness to William's disappearance. There is no doubt that it would be rare for no one to have seen anything. Is it that Mr Chapman seems very definite about what he saw that makes you doubt? If he was less sure, then I might agree.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Lia Harris
@LiaJHarris

Ms Jones told the court Tony Jones left home early on the day William went missing, “between 7.30 and 8am”, saying he was “going out scrapping” with their son.

 

[Blues Clues]

Could you please remind me where the tennis club was?

Next door to Kendall Services & Citizens Club on Graham Street JLZ. Graham Street and Comboyne Street run parallel-ish.

 

[Thebottomline]

She heard you, Bear.

Lia Harris
@LiaJHarris
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Debbie Jones has now taken the stand. She was previously married to person of interest Tony Jones, who is a convicted child sex offender.

AJ is the one that concerns me the most .

 

[bearbear]

Some people have the ability to be very observant. I'd be careful about dismissing what might well be the only eye witness to William's disappearance. There is no doubt that it would be rare for no one to have seen anything. Is it that Mr Chapman seems very definite about what he saw that makes you doubt? If he was less sure, then I might agree.

youd think if he was so positive it was william he saw, he would have contacted police straight away though, instead of waiting,
it kind of seems like over time hes actually convinced himself it was, after being unsure at the start?