Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #52

[Karinna]

the Prosecutor took Scott Cook at his word, others have said at trial he said what Jubelin claims he said.
Why do you think Jubelin taped PS? For nefarious reasons, to sell on ebay, because it's fun, he hasn't got anything better to do?!

I just posted a link to state what the Prosecutor said at trial about it. Not my words but his as an officer of the court.

 

[drsleuth]

Do you know if it’s online , maybe time I bought a subscription

These are the articles .

The Sun Herald

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...GklYRL314k2Mr9gGJJUf7wc9gsFo1h0o6siVtKUI1TdQU

Inside the task force investigating the disappearance of William Tyrrell

Georgina Mitchell
February 16, 2020 — 12.00am

We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph

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Sunday Telegraph

Cops’ secret ‘immunity offer’ to solve William Tyrrell case
Former detective Gary Jubelin was on trial accused of breaking the law by secretly recording a suspect in William Tyrrell’s disappearance. Instead, the case exposed infighting within the NSW Homicide Squad and the secret deal hatched to find William.

Ava Benny-Morrison, Crime Reporter, The Sunday Telegraph
February 16, 2020 12:30pm

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We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph

ERISP interview of Paul Savage with Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin and Detective Sergeant Laura Beacroft in August, 2017.

( video in link )

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William Tyrrell ex-investigator's police interviews revealed

William Tyrrell ex-investigator's police interviews revealed

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We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph

Secretly recorded call between Gary Jubelin, Paul Savage revealed
This is the transcript of the one of the secret recordings allegedly made by Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin involving Paul Savage, the man he suspected was involved in William Tyrrell’s disappearance.

February 16, 2020 12:00am

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We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph

Why cops wanted a secret trial for Gary Jubelin
As Gary Jubelin, a former detective in William Tyrell’s disappearance faces court, many are wondering why NSW Police wanted to keep so many of us in the dark, writes Claire Harvey.

Claire Harvey

February 15, 2020 11:00pm

The Bottomline, you may be able to access the articles from twitter pages or use a different browser maybe?

 

[Tinker Taylor]

double

 

[stormyseas]

“William vanished from a dead-end street on the edge of a small town. No one but his parents and grandmother knew in advance of his visit to Kendall.

This has made police confident that the person who kidnapped him was already in the area.

"You would have to have some other reason to be there and take that opportunity; either visiting, residing or working in the vicinity."

There was only a narrow window of opportunity to take William, who was snatched in broad daylight and with a significant risk of being seen by someone on the balcony of William's home as well as neighbouring properties.

This has made police certain that the kidnapper was impulsive and took tremendous risks.”
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...illiam-tyrrells-abductor-20150911-gjkqyz.html

*A reminder of Sarah Yule’s profiling back in 2015

 

[drsleuth]

Actually Doc, not all of it is in those Articles.

There were 6 hours of recordings released, both with PS and Jubelin when he was interviewed. They were released by the Magistrate so there would be somewhere you could acquire them, probably from the court for a payment.

Ok , thanks

 

[PrimeSuspect]

I just posted a link to state what the Prosecutor said at trial about it. Not my words but his as an officer of the court.

ok, that's your position.
If you believe Jubelin is untruthful and his reasons for taping PS aren't warranted, why make up PS has a dementia or severe mental illness for the last couple of threads to prove your point? Not going to discuss this further.

 

[Tinker Taylor]

I’m lost , a lot of articles I haven’t been able to read. Was the postie that had the avo against PS delivering mail on that day around that time ? Getting the feeling some here alluding she may have been responsible .

I'm just trying to put the pieces together.

1. William didn't leave the driveway (according to the tracker dogs) and I don't believe he had any shoes on, so he was probably picked up in a vehicle.
2. Whoever took him probably had business in the street and if seen would not have been regarded as suspicious.
3. Postie and FGM were friends.
4. Crabbs heard a vehicle that they thought was the postie.
5. PS was supposedly outside waiting for the postie.
6. Ron Chapman saw a woman with blonde hair piled on her head with a child in a spider man suit he believes was William, speeding past his street.

If I was an investigator, I'd be having a closer look.

Am I crazy??

 

[peekinandy]

“William vanished from a dead-end street on the edge of a small town. No one but his parents and grandmother knew in advance of his visit to Kendall.

This has made police confident that the person who kidnapped him was already in the area.

"You would have to have some other reason to be there and take that opportunity; either visiting, residing or working in the vicinity."

There was only a narrow window of opportunity to take William, who was snatched in broad daylight and with a significant risk of being seen by someone on the balcony of William's home as well as neighbouring properties.

This has made police certain that the kidnapper was impulsive and took tremendous risks.”
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...illiam-tyrrells-abductor-20150911-gjkqyz.html

*A reminder of Sarah Yule’s profiling back in 2015

Just a reminder it's not a dead end street - many 4wds could get through. This may be something the team was trying to hide initially.. ?

 

[drsleuth]

https://www.watoday.com.au/national...rance-of-william-tyrrell-20200213-p540of.html

He became the only person who had continuity in the strike force, despite starting five months in, because other members were rotated out. After he tendered his resignation, Jubelin said he was not allowed to speak to his former colleagues or give a handover to another detective.

snip

Detective Senior Constable Louise Rodden, who was in the strike force for more than three years, was asked if Cook's view of the investigation was "that nothing was going to happen, no success was going to be achieved and it should be discontinued". She responded, "yes".

snip

In a recorded interview with internal investigators, Jubelin said about 30 police passed through the strike force in his time overseeing it. Inquiries included 500 persons of interest and more than 1000 reported sightings of William.


Is anyone still on this case from the very beginning??

 

[peekinandy]

I'm just trying to put the pieces together.

1. William didn't leave the driveway (according to the tracker dogs) and I don't believe he had any shoes on, so he was probably picked up in a vehicle.
2. Whoever took him probably had business in the street and if seen would not have been regarded as suspicious.
3. Postie and FGM were friends.
4. Crabbs heard a vehicle that they thought was the postie.
5. PS was supposedly outside waiting for the postie.
6. Ron Chapman saw a woman with blonde hair piled on her head with a child in a spider man suit he believes was William, speeding past his street.

If I was an investigator, I'd be having a closer look.

Am I crazy??

What would you be looking closer at? Sorry I don't get what/who... ?

 

[Chrissy74]

I had to laugh out loud It's great to have some light humour - yes? ps I can't see whangs pic!

I had a lil laugh myself... wonder why you can’t see the profile pic

 

[Tinker Taylor]

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Like I said, if it was me, I'd be having a closer look.
That's what investigators do.
They don't just see something that looks like it might fit and instantly make an arrest.

 

[Chrissy74]

No

Sounds like.. 2 syllables..

 

[Chrissy74]

Are you sure about that? .....

How do you know for sure?

 

[peekinandy]

I had a lil laugh myself... wonder why you can’t see the profile pic

Eventually I did. Nah... looks nothing like him IMO

 

[peekinandy]

How do you know for sure?

Me? I know nothing... wish I did. maybe you are asking previous poster?

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Like I said, if it was me, I'd be having a closer look.
That's what investigators do.
They don't just see something that looks like it might fit and instantly make an arrest.

and do you know they haven't? Postie would've been interviewed and given the time she was in the street and if she saw anything. The mail in the letterboxes would've be clue. Why would she kidnap William?

 

[Chrissy74]

Me? I know nothing... wish I did. maybe you are asking previous poster?

No sorry not you that was meant for Gary jubelin lookalike

 

[Chrissy74]

Must need my eyes checked lol

Eventually I did. Nah... looks nothing like him IMO

 

[Thebottomline]

I'm just trying to put the pieces together.

1. William didn't leave the driveway (according to the tracker dogs) and I don't believe he had any shoes on, so he was probably picked up in a vehicle.
2. Whoever took him probably had business in the street and if seen would not have been regarded as suspicious.
3. Postie and FGM were friends.
4. Crabbs heard a vehicle that they thought was the postie.
5. PS was supposedly outside waiting for the postie.
6. Ron Chapman saw a woman with blonde hair piled on her head with a child in a spider man suit he believes was William, speeding past his street.

If I was an investigator, I'd be having a closer look.

Am I crazy??

What I’m asking is whether to anyone’s knowledge has it actually been established postie was there .