Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #59

[JayWill]

I'm sure if the area had been hosed extensively on the day William vanished, the cops would have noticed..........

Unless a car was parked over it.

 

[Thebottomline]

Former lead detective reveals police bugged car of William Tyrrell's foster-parents

Pieces of read thread found taken away for testing, results not in yet. Also this article mentions the bugging of the foster families car

 

[little drops of rain]

Where is the body ? They have searched area near foster grandmas house a few times & found nothing …1) died close to house I would think maybe placed in temporary place nearby house then move at later date or 2) taken and killed in a different area and body hid
At this stage all eyes are on foster mum - so what car did she use to pick up her sister ? , was she alone , how long was she gone ? I would be asking those questions

And did sister notice any thing unusual?

 

[PolyDot]

I see news saying they are looking at concrete garage floor … surely police would have noticed the re concreting happening .. I think this is just more pressure , hoping someone will crack and confess

 

[katydid23]

I'm sure if the area had been hosed extensively on the day William vanished, the cops would have noticed..........

Wouldn't there have been very soggy soil in that one area? My grandkids recently did a bunch of tie-dyeing of shirts in my backyard. Of course they left much of the bright colored dye on the edge of the lawn and in the dirt. I didn't want to hummingbirds or sparrows to be attracted to it and try to ingest it, so I flooded the dirt area with the hose. It took many hours for that area to look normal again because it was so wet and bubbly still. And it looked flooded for a little while afterwards.

I think it would have caught the detectives eye if that driveway area was very wet in one area. JMO

 

[musicaljoke]

...Another thing I was thinking was could it be this all happened while the MFC went into town and he doesn't know what the FFC may have done?
All MOO

These initials get confusing.
MFC = male or mother, or something else?
FFC = female or father, or?
FM = foster mother
FF = foster father, foster family
FD = foster daughter, foster dad
FGM = foster grand mother

 

[katydid23]

I see news saying they are looking at concrete garage floor … surely police would have noticed the re concreting happening .. I think this is just more pressure , hoping someone will crack and confess

When did that re-concreting happen?

 

[katydid23]

These initials get confusing.
MFC = male or mother, or something else?
FFC = female or father, or?
FM = foster mother
FF = foster father, foster family
FD = foster daughter, foster dad
FGM = foster grand mother

Ive seen FFC being used for FemaleFoster Carer--but it is confusing

 

[Aimee2]

The AFP’s Forensics Imagery and Geomatics team are this morning using a ground penetrative radar to look for disturbances and anomalies in the soil beneath the structure.

It is understood the concrete slab in the garage was installed some time after the three-year-old’s disappearance on September 12, 2014.

https://www.news.com.au/national/ns...&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_content=SocialBakers

 

[PinkPower]

I'm sure if the area had been hosed extensively on the day William vanished, the cops would have noticed..........

The first hours of these searches are so chaotic, though. The first thing they would be doing is searching and calling for resources to locate the child.
Then they would be looking around the house in more depth.
In a few hours a wet patch would dry easily enough.

 

[PolyDot]

When did that re-concreting happen?

I am not saying re concreting happened .. it might have .. but it sounds unlikely that it was concreted without police checking it out as the house was already sold ? So it would have to happen in the first month after William went missing ..

 

[JBowie]

And did sister notice any thing unusual?

William's sister was aged 4 at the time. I guess police would have asked her if she saw anything.

 

[drsleuth]

The first hours of these searches are so chaotic, though. The first thing they would be doing is searching and calling for resources to locate the child.
Then they would be looking around the house in more depth.
In a few hours a wet patch would dry easily enough.

I'd find it hard to believe if none of the many people didn't notice IMO

 

[katydid23]

What would they be looking for under the garage slab besides a burial spot? Anything else come to mind?

 

[PinkPower]

I am not convinced. From this description below, it does not sound like they can do what you are describing above. They are using GPR through a concrete driveway and reading the radio frequencies to look for anomilies like buried containers. I do not believe that could tell whether an area was hosed down 5 years previously. JMO


Description

Ground Penetrating Radar (GPR) uses high-frequency pulsed electromagnetic waves to map subsurface information. GPR uses transmitting and receiving antennae, which are dragged along the ground surface. The transmitting antenna radiates short pulses of high-frequency radio waves into the ground. The wave spreads out and travels downward. If it hits a buried object or a boundary with different electrical properties, the receiving antenna records variations in the reflected return signal. The principles involved are similar to reflection seismology, except that electromagnetic energy is used instead of acoustic energy, and the resulting image is relatively easy to interpret. Integration of GPR data with other surface geophysical methods reduces uncertainty in site characterization. GPR provides the highest lateral and vertical resolution of any surface geophysical method.

Best penetration is achieved in dry sandy soils or massive dry materials such as granite, limestone, and concrete. GPR provides the greatest resolution of currently available surface geophysical methods. It is the only reliable method for detecting buried plastic containers.

Another use might be if they suspect there are two different burial sites.

1. Out in the bush they are currently searching.
2. Body moved and placed under garage prior to concreting.

 

[katydid23]

What would they be looking for under the garage slab besides a burial spot? Anything else come to mind?

William's sister was aged 4 at the time. I guess police would have asked her if she saw anything.

ETA: I stand corrected...
I think she was older than 4. More like 7, IIRC.

 

[PolyDot]

The AFP’s Forensics Imagery and Geomatics team are this morning using a ground penetrative radar to look for disturbances and anomalies in the soil beneath the structure.

It is understood the concrete slab in the garage was installed some time after the three-year-old’s disappearance on September 12, 2014.

Device that could solve Tyrrell mystery

Thanks for that - so it was concreted over .. wonder when that happened as house was sold

 

[drsleuth]

What would they be looking for under the garage slab besides a burial spot? Anything else come to mind?

I think she was older than 4. More like 7, IIRC.

She was 4 at the time

 

[PinkPower]

I'd find it hard to believe if none of the many people didn't notice IMO

I wouldn't. I've seen so many cases where very obvious things are overlooked, particularly in cases where everyone is searching externally for a child they suspect was 'taken' - the focus immediately focuses on surrounding bush, roads, highways, etc.

 

[misty48]

Can we just remember that there may not even be an accusation. It may be based on information from others in her life and part of ongoing observations.

Charges have been laid. Would that have happened without someone first officially speaking with the victim? Genuine question as I don't know how Australia deals with Family/Criminal issues like this.