Australian couple abandon surrogate twin with Down's syndrome in Thailand

[jjenny]

I read that Thai surrogates should be single or divorced so the bio father will be named as father on the birth certificate. I got that from here:
http://www.familiesthrusurrogacy.com/surrogacy-by-country

I've also read that Gammy's surrogate mother is married. Perhaps the surrogate and her husband are the parents named on the birth certificate.

Where did you see that surrogate is married? As far as I can tell, she hasn't mentioned her husband in any interviews, and I haven't seen any interviews with her husband on how he feels on this matter, so I don't think she is married.

 

[Amee]

A former West Australian child protection minister has called for an urgent review of surrogacy laws to ensure children do not wind up in the care of a convicted sex offender.

Ms McSweeney says access to surrogacy should be treated in the same way as adoption and foster care

"Surrogacy should be no different. If you are a convicted child sex offender, there should be laws in place to prohibit you from caring for a child," she said.

"As a former child protection minister and child protection worker, it is very misguided to believe that it is possible to rehabilitate paedophiles."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-...ll-to-ban-sex-offenders-from-children/5664034

 

[Amee]

Ms McAlpine said she understood the Immigration Act was unlikely to apply to Gammy as his biological father was an Australian and his parents could apply for him to have citizenship.

“It would be a service to the community if Gammy’s case can stimulate our Federal politicians to amend the Migration Act to extend the compassion that Australian people have shown in Gammy’s case to the treatment of potential immigrants with disabilities.”

Read more: http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/g...immigrants-20140812-10373y.html#ixzz3AA3Zaqjj

 

[Walk A Mile]

Where did you see that surrogate is married? As far as I can tell, she hasn't mentioned her husband in any interviews, and I haven't seen any interviews with her husband on how he feels on this matter, so I don't think she is married.

Here: http://m.smh.com.au/national/austra...-baby-with-thai-surrogate-20140731-zz3xp.html

Here: http://www.samuitimes.com/outrage-australian-couple-abandon-baby-syndrome-thailand/

Here: http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/co...ate-baby-with-downs-we-wanted-refund-abortion

Here: http://m.asia.wsj.com/articles/aban...on-global-surrogacy-rules-1407075668?mobile=y

Google the surrogate's first name and the word husband and there are many articles that mention him.

 

[Elley Mae]

Where did you see that surrogate is married? As far as I can tell, she hasn't mentioned her husband in any interviews, and I haven't seen any interviews with her husband on how he feels on this matter, so I don't think she is married.

Nor have I, I have only seen it that she is 21 and has two children, aged 6 and 3 and iirc her mother helps with the baby so I would imagine she lives with her.

 

[Elley Mae]

I spoke too soon, she is married and there is more...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2718974/Inside-life-Gammys-birth-mother-surrogacy-row.html

check out the stain on the wall in the pic of the man (husband) sitting on the couch. just sayin

 

[Amee]

I spoke too soon, she is married and there is more...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2718974/Inside-life-Gammys-birth-mother-surrogacy-row.html

check out the stain on the wall in the pic of the man (husband) sitting on the couch. just sayin

I thought the man on the couch owned the barber shop , Jumpol. :dunno:

Jumpol, who owns a barber shop on the street Ms Pattaramon's grandparents live, said she started wearing expensive new clothes and handbags when she was pregnant

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...birth-mother-surrogacy-row.html#ixzz3AACm35pr

 

[Elley Mae]

I thought the man on the couch owned the barber shop , Jumpol. :dunno:

Jumpol, who owns a barber shop on the street Ms Pattaramon's grandparents live, said she started wearing expensive new clothes and handbags when she was pregnant

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...birth-mother-surrogacy-row.html#ixzz3AACm35pr

Yes you are right, he is the barber.

 

[Marg from Oz]

I spoke too soon, she is married and there is more...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2718974/Inside-life-Gammys-birth-mother-surrogacy-row.html

check out the stain on the wall in the pic of the man (husband) sitting on the couch. just sayin

That is the barber in his barber shop not the husband . The stain is from people's greasy heads while waiting for a hair cut.

 

[SouthAussie]

"14 Aug 2014 - Immigration officials at Bangkok's international airport have stopped two Australian couples with surrogate babies from leaving the country.

The ABC understands the couples were trying to depart from Bangkok's international airport but were stopped by immigration officials on Thursday afternoon.

The couples were both homosexual and one was travelling with the surrogate mother.

It is understood two American couples have also been stopped from leaving Thailand in the last 24 hours.

The ABC has been told police have ordered immigration not to allow surrogate babies out of the country unless there is a court order."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-...ped-leaving-thailand-surrogate-babies/5672094

 

[Supernovae]

http://www.parentdish.co.uk/2014/08...mits-i-told-friends-downs-syndrome-twin-dead/

"The adult daughter of David Farnell, the Australian father at the centre of the baby Gammy surrogacy controversy, says that she was behind reports that the couple believed the baby had died.

Jane Farnell told her local newspaper that David and second wife Wendy knew all along that Gammy, who has Down's syndrome and other medical problems, was alive, and wanted to bring him to Australia to join his healthy twin sister, Pipah.

"My parents never said Gammy had died, that came from me," Ms Farnell told the Bunbury Mail, explaining that she thought 'it would be easier' if she told her friends that Gammy was dead, rather than involve them in the 'confusion'.
"

 

[jjenny]

"What’s really concerning is the Thai government has changed the rules halfway through the game and virtually overnight, these couples who had gone into this process in good faith now find themselves pawns in a disastrous game.”


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/15/australian-couples-hit-thai-surrogacy-ban

 

[they'll get you]

I hope the authorities haven't eased off this pedophile father. 24/7 surveillance required but unfortunately this is an impossibility.

 

[Supernovae]

Couple (who think that war/disease torn African countries make excellent baby names) stranded in Thailand with newborn surrogate babies:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-jailed-human-trafficking-leave-Thailand.html

Mainly linked for the names.

:facepalm:

 

[Whatson]

A child sex abuse victim of an Australian man at the centre of a surrogacy storm says pedophiles shouldn't have children and she's disgusted he has a baby daughter.

Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...houldn-t-have-kids-victim#d85dP6bsRiVR6Shc.99

 

[they'll get you]

The judges pointed to cases in which children had been abandoned because of disability or diseases such as HIV, because they were the wrong gender, or because parents only wanted one child when multiple babies were born. Lax standards had also meant pedophiles had been able to obtain children via surrogacy.

Surrogate mothers had also been forced to have multiple caesarean sections and then left to die from birth complications, and poor and often illiterate women were being preyed upon by unscrupulous middlemen or held against their will.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...ts-moral-compass/story-e6frg97x-1227032022422

Family judge warns pedophiles exploiting surrogacy laws
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...g-surrogacy-laws/story-fn59niix-1227033721488

 

[Supernovae]

In a separate case an Australian father of twins born via a Thai surrogate has been charged with sexually abusing them:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...gate-twins-charged-with-sexually-abusing-them

 

[PrimeSuspect]

'Can you leave the abnormal one at the temple?' Gammy's dad allegedly asked

The Australian father of baby Gammy asked for his son to be left at a temple after he was born with Down syndrome, it has been claimed.

Western Australia dad David Farnell has today denied the claim made by a former employee of Thailand Surrogacy.


http://www.9news.com.au/world/2014/...temple-born-down-syndrome#4XKf3LyPLbpWQeLA.99

 

[Amee]

BABY Gammy was allegedly offered to a Victorian couple in a “frenzied scramble” to offload* the boy after it was discovered he had Down syndrome*.

He said, ‘there’s a normal one, can I take the normal one?’,” the employee claimed Mr Farnell had said.

“’Can you leave the abnormal one at the temple, can you leave him in Bangkok? No one will know about this.’”

http://www.news.com.au/national/bab...did-not-take-him/story-fncynjr2-1227062042381

 

[Supernovae]

The allegations against the Farnells come as Mr Frattaroli claims he was made to do the Farnell's 'dirty work,' such as separating the baby and mother from the Australian parents so they 'didnt have to see them.'
'They asked me if I could put the Down Syndrome baby in a different room so they wouldn’t have to look at them,' Mr Fratolli told 9NEWS.

Mr Frattaroli said Mr Farnell and his wife Wendy had two options – take the baby back to Australia and put him up for adoption or allow the surrogate mother, Pattaramon Chanbua, to take him.

In an email reportedly sent by Mr Farnell a month before the birth he wrote they had chosen 'to go with option 2'.
Mr Frattaroli said it was also agreed that the Farnells would pay Ms Chanbua about $2000 a month as child costs, but as yet, have not paid a cent.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...FIVE-MONTHS-havent-paid-cent-support-him.html