Austria - Thomas Plamberge leaves gf, Kerstin Gurtner to freeze to death on Austria's tallest mountain - charged with manslaughter - Jan.19/2025

[RedHaus]

Most people arent dangerous, narcissistic sociopaths so they dont assume or consider that others are, especially their partners - some are tragically wrong.

RSBM
I couldn't agree with you more!

The dynamics of a relationship with a narcissist, especially a gaslighter who lacks empathy and is manipulative, can be very destructive to the partner. And as I suspect in this case, can be fatal.

Perhaps Thomas was tired of Kersten and wanted to 'get rid' of her. Has another partner of his met a similar fate or disappeared?

The fact Thomas completed his goal to summit before calling for help for Kersten signals to me that he IS a narcissist.

Unless I see evidence that help was more accessible by descending the other side of the summit, I suspect that excuse of Thomas' will disintegrate during his trial.

I'm just very sad for Kersten.

IMO.

 

[RedHaus]

The DM, as usual, seems to have jumped on this case with greater detail, presuming their data is accurate.

Here is their graphic of the ascent route and Thomas' descent route, along with a more detailed timeline of events.

There are differences in the DM timeline, as compared to what was reported previously. In particular:

1. Did Thomas' intentionally ignore rescuers attempt to help (a phone call and a helicopter) at 10:50pm? Or did he not know how dire the situation was?

2. Did Thomas not contact LE until 4 hours (at 12:35am) after Kersten was unable to continue? What did he report, if not a cry for help? And why did he wait so long?

3. Did Thomas leave for help (over the summit) at 2am, 1.5 hours later? And why on earth would he leave Kersten if he'd spoken with LE 1.5 hours earlier?

4. Per the DM reporting, Thomas did not officially call for help until 3:30am. He wasn't even with Kersten. For the life of me that data point alone is disturbing.

It appears to me that Thomas did not know there was CCTV trained on that mountain resulting in clear video of their head lamps with time stamps.

My guess is if there was no CCTV, Thomas may have gotten away with claiming Kersten's death was a tragic accident. I'm glad he was caught!

IMO.


Seems as if Tho

Mountaineer who left partner to die says 'tragedy left him

Thomas Plamberger, 36, an experienced climber, is alleged to have left Kerstin Gurtner, 33, on the Grossglockner mountain in January last year as temperatures plunged to minus 20C.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Twick]

I just wondered why she even went. It seems like she wasn't experienced for this type of hike.

“It’ll be a fun bonding experience, trust me!”

 

[RedHaus]

FWIW, before Thomas' FB page was taken down yesterday, I noted three things:

1. All his posts were announcements about him achieving a mountaineering goal and written in the third person, which seemed odd to me. But it appears he was indeed an experienced climber.

2. Thomas summitted Grossglocker summer 2022, so he knew the mountain.

3. His last post was in 2022, although more recent posts may have been deleted before I saw his FB page last Saturday.

IMO.