Austria - Thomas Plamberger leaves gf, Kerstin Gurtner to freeze to death on Austria's tallest mountain - charged with manslaughter - Jan.19/2025

  • #321
Nothing you can dig up about this guy is gonna make you think better of him. Let's put it this way.
Oh I wonder what his previous ex-gfs would say about him more!
 
  • #322
I wasn't clear that my purpose of posting the guide website's description of the Studlgrat was to point out how they were "glossing over" a bit. I could see how Kerstin looked at that and wanted to do it, or TP showed her something like that to say how she could do it with what they've done that year. The guide site may have bee trying to attract customers, and there may be more guide sites like that, which could lead someone to think it was ok. But if they had actually hired such a guide, they would have assessed them and their gear, and told them to go try another mountain, but not this mountain, or route, in January.
I wouldnt hire a guide to guide me up the mountain ive climbed several times.

But I wouldnt feel good with perspective of my partner skiing down unknown route while i walk down. Its not regular skiing route, not just a Hill. What if they hit on some rock or fell into a crevice? I dont know in advance if other people will be around. If or how many snowboarding/ski tracks will be there. These are mountains, it can get snowy at random moment. Night comes and what then? How im going to find them?

How this plan could even sound good?
 
  • #323
Digging through instagram Ive foud post from a guy who climbed Studlgrat in January of different year. Three people. No specific hour provided but the time of their start is described as "middle of the night".
One of these three people started feeling bad due to altitude and turned back down half way up. There is a pic, its above the breakfast spot. Seems to be experienced climber. Could be a difference for Kerstin, cant tell if there were some parts of the route that felt unsafe to try to get through alone.
So its not that they couldnt turn back. Together they could do that.
 

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