GUILTY Austria - Woman Held Captive, Had 7 Children by Father
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NE NE - Chance Englebert, 25, Gering, 6 July 2019 (new father) #2- Latest: Songbird1973
Does a pit toilet qualify as a basement?
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And that would be where he lived.
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It is 2025 and I am still fascinated and horrified by this case.
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What?! No.
From the link:
Fritzl's lawyer Astrid Wagner has confirmed she has lodged a petition for the pensioner to be granted day visits outside prison for so-called 'social training' - a scheme designed to help long-term inmates re-learn everyday skills....
Veteran crime journalist Michael Koch hit out at the move, reminding the public that Fritzl's crimes were not 'just' about locking his daughter in a basement, but part of a sustained reign of terror that left deep scars on his victims and horrified the world.
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WHAT??? This is so unfair and horrifying.
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Österreich: Inzest-Täter Fritzl - Gericht prüft Antrag auf Entlassung
Jahrelang vergewaltigte er seine Tochter in einem Kellerverlies. Dann wurde Fritzl zu lebenslanger Haft verurteilt. 2024 wurde eine Entlassung abgelehnt. Er und seine Anwältin lassen nicht locker.
(Article should automatically translate when you open it on your screen).
A little bit more information: Fritzl has since changed his name. Fritzl's lawyer claims that he regrets his crimes. However he also has an overly optimistic view of his future outside prison. He expects to be welcomed back in his old town of Amstetten and to be able to play card games (with his old buddies presumably).
IMO somebody who regrets his crimes, who is sorry for having committed them, couldn't expect to be welcomed back in his old town with open arms and go back to normal town activities as if nothing had happened! Maybe dementia, which he does have according to his lawyer, is colouring his ideas of what is appropriate or how his old neighbours might think of him?
Still, with his horrendous crimes IMHO he should remain in prison till the end of his days, even if at some point in the future he can no longer even remember his crimes.
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Österreich: Inzest-Täter Fritzl - Gericht prüft Antrag auf Entlassung
Jahrelang vergewaltigte er seine Tochter in einem Kellerverlies. Dann wurde Fritzl zu lebenslanger Haft verurteilt. 2024 wurde eine Entlassung abgelehnt. Er und seine Anwältin lassen nicht locker.www.schwarzwaelder-bote.de
(Article should automatically translate when you open it on your screen).
A little bit more information: Fritzl has since changed his name. Fritzl's lawyer claims that he regrets his crimes. However he also has an overly optimistic view of his future outside prison. He expects to be welcomed back in his old town of Amstetten and to be able to play card games (with his old buddies presumably).
IMO somebody who regrets his crimes, who is sorry for having committed them, couldn't expect to be welcomed back in his old town with open arms and go back to normal town activities as if nothing had happened! Maybe dementia, which he does have according to his lawyer, is colouring his ideas of what is appropriate or how his old neighbours might think of him?
Still, with his horrendous crimes IMHO he should remain in prison till the end of his days, even if at some point in the future he can no longer even remember his crimes.
There is no part of me that believes for a SECOND that he regrets his crimes. He regrets getting caught. He would still have Elisabeth and her kids down there to this day if he had not been caught.
I hope that if he somehow is granted the ability to go back to his old town, he is shunned and isolated. I hope that his old neighbours and friends are disgusted by him.
I hope he has to pay for his crimes for the rest of his life because he LOVED the power he had and he deserves to never have power like that again.
IMO / MOO
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I agree. If he regretted them, he'd be filled with remorse. And he wouldn't have any lunatic ideas about going back to his old town and being accepted by everybody.
The German language has a grammatical way of showing that somebody (in this case the lawyer) is reporting someone else's speech but distancing themselves from the content and not necessarily agreeing with it. That's used in this newspaper article. She definitely sees no hope for him going back to his old town and being accepted. Otherwise I don't know enough about Austrian criminal law to know if she has to make these pleas for him to be released or if she's going above and beyond and genuinely thinks he should be out and about enjoying his freedom. I'm sure along with other countries in central and western Europe that Austria doesn't impose sentences along the lines of: "150 years with no chance of parole for 100 years". MOO
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Oh god, not again. Do we have a thread yet for this case?Another one
Even if he no longer remembers his terrible crime/crimes, he is no less culpable and evil. He should be punished for the rest of his miserable life. No freedom, no little outings, no coffee. Bread and water is too good for him.
