AZ AZ - Adrienne Salinas, 19, Tempe , 15 June 2013 - #3

[Tonto]

Not saying she called one - saying last minute she could have seen one trying to tow her car. Just an idea. That's all.

If anyone else has any other idea where she was walking besides the circle k or toward where her car had been left going toward university from the west part of that parking lot if like to know. It's about ideas here. We don't know why she veered.

Perhaps, but I just believe wholeheartedly in Occam's razor. I don't mind ideas at all, but some are more plausible than others. I think it is more possible that the sedan in question is tied to what happened to her than a tow truck that was never seen or called.

It's the most plausible scenario given the time stamp, evidence, circumstances, and new information that we have. JMO.

 

[Angelonline]

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[cluciano63]

We really are not allowed to sleuth anyone who is not named a POI...or at least, we are not allowed to discuss or post about it.

Don't want to get the thread closed down.

 

[MissDemeanor]

I think we are all tired and frustrated and a bit edgy. Let's take a deep breath and count to ten.

Peace everyone.

 

[MissDemeanor]

We really are not allowed to sleuth anyone who is not named a POI...or at least, we are not allowed to discuss or post about it.

Don't want to get the thread closed down.

I thought we could if it was 'relevant'. Am I wrong?

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

We really are not allowed to sleuth anyone who is not named a POI...or at least, we are not allowed to discuss or post about it.

Don't want to get the thread closed down.

Thank you.

 

[Angelonline]

We really are not allowed to sleuth anyone who is not named a POI...or at least, we are not allowed to discuss or post about it.

Don't want to get the thread closed down.

Correct and thank you. We only sleuth POI'S or named suspects.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/regio...linas-left-home-after-argument-with-boyfriend

Article updated. Speaks of AS roommate getting on her bike to look for her. Read the whole thing please as it has been edited throughout (seems to be the common issue in this case)

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Snipped from article Above ^^^^

"The two left the party and argued as they drove to and from his Scottsdale apartment.
Arteaga then told officers when he came up to a stop light at 5th Street and Mill Avenue in Tempe, Salinas got out of his car and began walking home.
Arteaga says he also got out of the car to give Salinas her cell phone that she had left on the passenger seat of the car.
Arteaga then showed officers his phone records showing that he made a call shortly afterwards to one of Salinas’ roommates to tell them she was walking home.

Read more: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/regio...e-after-argument-with-boyfriend#ixzz2ZRoV7F4M

 

[MissDemeanor]

Here's the latest HUFFPO article from 2 hours ago:

Some new info in there:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/18/adrienne-salinas-missing_n_3618785.html

The boyfriend was given lie detector tests and passed, according to the article.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

This might help us. The report says she took the turn into Ash from Rio Salado (as she had gone N on hardy from her apartment, right on rio Salado, and wrecked AFTER west 1st street. The only way to continue driving was down ash, as the 911 caller reported.

Which indicates to me that after the wreck she utilized Ash to University as I've now surmised and NOT west 1st to Roosevelt and w brown.

Furthermore, why would she abandon her car further her apartment by dropping it on Roosevelt and west brown if now we know she utilized ASH?

The only thing that could have explained her car being at Roosevelt and west brown was if she took west 1st after the wreck. This makes me believe her car was moved later to the location on Roosevelt and west brown. IMO.

 

[cluciano63]

No one takes three LD tests, if they pass the first time. That does not sound accurate.

 

[Tonto]

In light of the information and time stamp that we received last evening, the wreck or its immediate aftermath has absolutely nothing to do with this. The only thing that matters now is that she was last seen on camera seconds away from AMPM and that she never made it there. A dark sedan pulled into where she was last seen two minutes after she was last seen. The cab driver's time line, if the latest release of LE information is correct, is wholly inaccurate. No tow trucks were reported, called, or seen, and only the information about a black sedan was released to the public by police. There is a reason they released that information.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

And how do you move a car with busted tires?

(sorry)

Towing it.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

I'm simply stating it would be impossible, given the new reports, for her to take the route we had surmised she had to have taken to drop her car off. There is no reason why her car should have ended up in the location it did given where she had her wreck and where she sped off to.

It's as if the car was staged/placed on that street later.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

In light of the information and time stamp that we received last evening, the wreck or its immediate aftermath has absolutely nothing to do with this. The only thing that matters now is that she was last seen on camera seconds away from AMPM and that she never made it there. A dark sedan pulled into where she was last seen two minutes after she was last seen. The cab driver's time line, if the latest release of LE information is correct, is wholly inaccurate. No tow trucks were reported, called, or seen, and only the information about a black sedan was released to the public by police. There is a reason they released that information.

I respectfully disagree. I believe the circumstances leading up to a disappearance are just as important.

To each his own. Opinions respected.

 

[cluciano63]

Maybe she moved the car the last time she left that apartment? To a more secure locale.

 

[Tonto]

And how do you move a car with busted tires?

(sorry)

Towing it.

It has already been well reported that she drove the car back on flats - or on tires that were going flat. My bet is they weren't entirely flat and that she drove the car as far as she could until she could no longer control it. Which was a block or so east of her apartment (where she abandoned it). There was a witness (or witnesses) that saw the car driving on the road after the accident.

 

[MissDemeanor]

It has already been well reported that she drove the car back on flats - or on tires that were going flat. My bet is they weren't entirely flat and that she drove the car as far as she could until she could no longer control it. Which was a block or so east of her apartment (where she abandoned it). There was a witness (or witnesses) that saw the car driving on the road after the accident.

I would like to add here that I don't think she wanted to get a DUI and so it is doubtful she would have gone back to drive it again after leaving it the first time following the accident.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

It has already been well reported that she drove the car back on flats - or on tires that were going flat. My bet is they weren't entirely flat and that she drove the car as far as she could until she could no longer control it. Which was a block or so east of her apartment (where she abandoned it). There was a witness (or witnesses) that saw the car driving on the road after the accident.

Can you back the witness reports up with an article?

Also please note that the only plausible way after she got onto ash for her to travel toward her apartment would be west 5th street , and why she then veered off course from 5th to Roosevelt and west brown I will never understand. If she would have continued down 5th that's the road leading West toward her apartment.