AZ AZ - Adrienne Salinas, 19, Tempe , 15 June 2013 - #6

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My fiancée said it looks like a Samsung smart phone. He says to me as if it's obvious, "it's only like the most common phone out there...duh...". Ok captain obvious!
 
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I could understand if they were just roomies who connected through ads or through the college, but these girls are suppose to be childhood friends of hers.

They should be traumatized by what happened to Adrienne and doing everything they can to get the word out and to find her.

It just seems like they are just going on with their lives as if nothing ever happened.
 
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Spent the afternoon and evening in the area (and it is large) of the crash site, the apartment, the alleged walk down Hardy (which I am still not certain ever occurred), the back ways, the side streets, Jaycee Park, the AM/PM and O'Reilly's and a lot of space in between. Met up with a fellow "Websleuther" (who shall remain anonymous) and we re-hashed the theories together, in person at my old favorite, Otto's....near my even more old favorite, Casey Moore's.

I will say that 20 years has changed what was my home. A lot. It is much cleaner, better lit, modernized (not sure that's a good thing... the old mom and pop businesses were very cool) and I see William Wonderful is alive and well... while Elvis the Cat has gone to the other side...

While snooping about in an area we were asked to look around by another Websleuther, we did find a phone. A very badly damaged phone. I called the Tempe Police Dept. and was told to take it from the area we were in and meet an officer in the parking lot of Tempe Beach park. So we did. We very carefully picked it up and took it to the parking lot and waited. And waited. And waited... Took photos of the front and back of the phone (it was not a Samy or an iPhone), it was a Motorola CDMA / Verizon and was missing the SD and the sim card (and the battery and back plate). After an hour and a half we decided not to wait any longer. LE has my name and my phone number. :)

Driving through the neighborhood at 10:30 p.m.... it was very quiet, most lights were out... it was a typical weekday night in anytown, USA.

Never felt unsafe for one minute. In fact, I was more at ease there than in my own neighborhood. The field trip left me a little nostalgic and a little melancholy. I'm not really sure what I expected but it was not what I came away with.

I'm going back tomorrow, as promised, for the police report and my husband is busy working some other angles that arose during our in-person dialog with our sooper seekrit friend. ;) Should be very interesting and very telling.

Thank you! You're an angel seriously.

That phone you found must have some importance even if they find it may not be AS. Could be though! What a miracle that would be?!?

Btw have a bloody Mary for me over at Casey Moore's, will ya? I miss that place. (I even miss the palo verde bar ... Wow nostalgia).

Just caught this while catching up with The thread and couldn't stop myself from responding :). Like you my dear friend, i don't think she took that walk down hardy either.

Good job. !!! Massive kudos and thanks!
 
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Oh I didnt know all you had to do was copy and paste :banghead:

I can't find the comments to see if that actually was written by he user claiming to know suspects. It is an interesting comment none the less. I hope to track it down myself (TOS guidelines state we cannot post individuals comments/networking from sites on the forum)

Thank you for this.
 
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I could understand if they were just roomies who connected through ads or through the college, but these girls are suppose to be childhood friends of hers.

They should be traumatized by what happened to Adrienne and doing everything they can to get the word out and to find her.

It just seems like they are just going on with their lives as if nothing ever happened.

I completely agree.

For example, my best friend disappeared one night when we were out at a bar. I had went to the bathroom and when I came back she was gone. Her cell was off. No one saw where she went.

I immediately told the men in the bar (management) to go in the bathroom and check for her. No sign. I went outside the bar and started looking in cars driving or parked in the parking deck for a sign. Nothing.

I called 911 and told them my friend had disappeared and i knew that something was wrong. I told the person on 911 dispatch to please send an officer to check out the scene and send out an apb. I also told them what my friend looked like down to what kind of earrings she had on. I called my brother and his fiancee to immediately come and help me look for her while we were waiting for police to arrive.

Within 5 minutes of the police showing up, my friend stumbled out of the building (I'm convinced a person drug her back to a staff area or dropped her back off at the building after trying to abduct her and seeing the scene!). She was dazed. Had been drugged and was walking, but could not remember the last hour of her life. We checked her legs for bruising and her body for trauma. She was absolutely confused and scared. I'm convinced if I wouldn't have had those cops show up and insisted that she be searched for and the building locked down/searched ASAP - she would be in the exact position as AS now - disappeared without a trace.

So yes, the fact her "friends" kept partying the next night after she disappeared, much the less didn't call to see if she were ok the next day, Makes me furious and question their character!
 
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This case is really frustrating me today. :( I want SOMETHING. Some sort of answer, or outcome, or progress.
 
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This case is really frustrating me today. :( I want SOMETHING. Some sort of answer, or outcome, or progress.

Well, Sage is awesome. Hopefully the police report that she gets later this evening will shed some new light for us, and perhaps even facilitate better theories.
 
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Edited post. Examiner not allowed as a source on WS. Ty.
 
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The examiner.com is not MSM amd is not allowed on WS, just an FYI. It is a site where anyone can write articles.
 
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The examiner.com is not MSM amd is not allowed on WS, just an FYI. It is a site where anyone can write articles.

Examiner isn't allowed? Oh ok thanks for the heads up on that. Just was making sure I took note of Coco's post/assertion for my own notes/records outside of WS and forum. It is interesting none the less, but Defo needs to get corrected for TOS purposes. Ty!
 
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I have another question for cab guy if he can answer it:

When the cab arrived and Adrienne wasn't there, and she subsequently said she would 'be there in a minute' or similar, why would the driver's first instinct not be to ask to pick her up whereever she was along the way? I know that would be my first instinct, especially if I was on a tight schedule and/or it was my last call and I wanted to get home. Is there a protocol involved that I'm just unaware of?

Thanks in advance.
 
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I have a question.

Would LE be able to get the phone logs or cell pings off of the party goers and room mates phones or do they need a warrant?

Plus, I am very thankful we will be getting access to the police report. The locals there in Tempe have been awesome! Thank you locals for all your efforts. Glad to see Cab Guy giving his data and opinions on Adrienne's case and helping to alert us to new possibilities through elimination.


jmo
 
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The examiner.com is not MSM amd is not allowed on WS, just an FYI. It is a site where anyone can write articles.

Hmm. Didn't know that but it makes sense. I think whomever posted the link was trying to bring forth a conversation about the comment (taken as rumor, of course) rather than the article. If true, that comment is rather disturbing.
 
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The majority of us have always felt it very odd that her friends don't seem to be doing more for AS.

I echo many of your all's sentiments when it comes to what we would do should one of our own friends come up missing; dig to the depths of h*ll to try to locate him or her. I wouldn't be able to do anything less than this.

There are many true crime books/movies on cases where friends have done unspeakable things to their own friends for many different reasons and while it's very difficult for us to wrap our minds around, these things do happen. Is it likely? Probably not. But it wasn't likely to happen to any of those other victims either...*pauses for a moment*...but it did.

There are many things about this case that are suspect and the silence from LE only adds to this. I wish they were in a position to share more with the public and perhaps narrow down possibilities.
 
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Hmm. Didn't know that but it makes sense. I think whomever posted the link was trying to bring forth a conversation about the comment (taken as rumor, of course) rather than the article. If true, that comment is rather disturbing.

Actually comments on articles are not supposed to be pasted here either.
 
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There are many true crime books/movies on cases where friends have done unspeakable things to their own friends for many different reasons and while it's very difficult for us to wrap our minds around, these things do happen. Is it likely? Probably not. But it wasn't likely to happen to any of those other victims either...*pauses for a moment*...but it did.

snipped for brevity: That's something I learned here, just because something has only happened a handful of times, doesn't mean it can't happen again, so it shouldn't be ruled out. Sometimes people get too stuck on the statistics and are not open to the idea that if it happened once, it can happen again.

It's like those kids who got saved from the human trafficking. John Walsh was on "The View" this morning and said that even though it's known to happen in 3rd World countries, we are a 1st World Country and we have the highest rate of it. It's way more prevalent than we'd like to think.

So going back to the point........pretty much anything is open. Best friends turn against each other. Investigation Discovery even had a series on best friends harming the other. IMO AS's friend aren't out of the realm of possibilities of being involved in her disappearance.
 
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I have a question.

Would LE be able to get the phone logs or cell pings off of the party goers and room mates phones or do they need a warrant?

Plus, I am very thankful we will be getting access to the police report. The locals there in Tempe have been awesome! Thank you locals for all your efforts. Glad to see Cab Guy giving his data and opinions on Adrienne's case and helping to alert us to new possibilities through elimination.


jmo

If I am not mistaken, they would need a warrant no matter whose phone records they were seeking. But unless one of them is a suspect, I'm not sure they could get a warrant to search their records without probable cause.
 
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She would say "I'll be there in a minute" if she was
1. Preoccupied doing something or with someone
2. Sitting in another's car
 
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