AZ AZ - Adrienne Salinas, 19, Tempe , 15 June 2013 - #6

[parker38]

When you can.

And why would you think she CAN'T?!

*raised eyebrow*

Hi 'nighters'!!! Hope everyone is well!

Or when you're free? when you're able? when you
get a chance? lol It doesn't matter which he picked;
we will still find it strange!!!

 

[alreetlike]

When you can.

And why would you think she CAN'T?!

*raised eyebrow*

That thought crossed my mind too.

But then I'm sure a lot of innocent message I've sent could look a bit strange if the recipient disappeared mysteriously.

Clutching at straws a little, but maybe she'd said she'd planned to be out somewhere most of the next day and so he was just indicating she should touch base with him when she had an available moment.

I don't know. I want that damn police report.

 

[Seajay]

When you can.

And why would you think she CAN'T?!

*raised eyebrow*

Yes, where is the urgency??? He wakes up, she's called him 37 times, she texts him she's coming over and she never showed up, why would he be so calm in his reply??? Not a "what do you want?" "What's so important?" "What's going on?" "Where the heck are you??" "Did you change your mind and decide not to come over?" "Did you come over and I slept through it?" "I thought you were coming over?" "Call me now."

Did he even call her phone or did all he do was send her a text??? I mean she called him 37 times, he didn't call her when he saw how often she'd called or that she said she was coming over then didn't??? He should have been calling her.

Not "when you have time, call me." Crazy. No urgency at all and there should have been some.

 

[Tonto]

OK. So. Just had a thought come to me from somewhere. Since she was hellbent on hurriedly going back to her boyfriend's place - and strangely enough, virtually immediately after she returned from his place and jumping out of his car to get away from him - then why take the time to pack a bag the second go around (when she called the cab) but evidently not the first go around (when she had the wreck)?

 

[prospektor]

why take the time to pack a bag the second go around (when she called the cab) but evidently not the first go around (when she had the wreck)?

Is there some new information? To my understanding, it was the other way round: She packed a bag almost immediately after getting back to her apartment and talking to her friend for a moment outside, then left for her boyfriend's, wrecked the car, got back to the apartment, changed the clothes and left the bag there (also wallet and car keys), then left for the cab.

Though I might be not on top of the news with this. Whenever there's not much more information in a case after a week or two, I tend to check the threads only periodically, in order to avoid the usual, more desperate theories. But maybe it's safe again in this case? Has the following been already discussed in the meantime?
- She was snatched as part of a gang initiation ritual
- She accidentally stumbled upon a meth lab
- She was taken by juggaloos
As far as I know, we're already past the human trafficking angle, so that's good.

 

[SandSage]

OK. So. Just had a thought come to me from somewhere. Since she was hellbent on hurriedly going back to her boyfriend's place - and strangely enough, virtually immediately after she returned from his place and jumping out of his car to get away from him - then why take the time to pack a bag the second go around (when she called the cab) but evidently not the first go around (when she had the wreck)?

She packed the bag before the wreck... your confusion born of frustration is totally understandable.

 

[karenky]

She packed the bag before the wreck... your confusion born of frustration is totally understandable.

If she thought she thought that she needed a bag enough to pack one before the wreck then why wouldn't she still need her bag afterwards?

 

[GGE]

Nowadays when I wake up, instead of finding 12 new pages of nothing I find 1.5..... with the police report just imagine how much more we could do! I'm glad it's not in my posession right now actually, because I wouldn't want to even for one fraction of one second have to feel the unease of having in my posession the one thing that might break Adrienne's case wide open after all this time, while knowing I still didn't actually do the right thing with it and put it in a place where said "breaking wide open" can happen.

 

[GGE]

If she thought she thought that she needed a bag enough to pack one before the wreck then why wouldn't she still need her bag afterwards?

Because when she packed it at 3:35am or so, it was still dark out and she was still in party clothing (see-through blouse, leggings under short denim shorts) and would obviously need clothes for the next day that would be suitable.

By the time she left again it was getting light out (as shown in the video at the ampm of the cab waiting for her) and going on 5am and we know she already came back home and changed out of her party clothing and presumably into something more acceptable before going back out to meet the cab. she seemed like a responsible, respectable, upstanding, well-bred young lady, IYKWIM.

IMO

 

[WideOpen]

Regarding he last text from the bf.

I would not find it odd, considering their on again-off again relationship had this been a behavior Adrienne normally displayed when drinking or having fits. First, the 32 calls to BF after the big night of arguments might be characteristic of her. I have had 2 ex's that "assaulted" me with repeated phone calls one on top of the other until "they were finished" calling. My daughter who is separated from her husband is being assaulted with repeated phone calls and when he wants to talk to her he just keeps calling... IMO if Adrienne had done this to BF in the past, he might not be alarmed because it was normal. Next, the response, "call when you can" less than 8 hours later seems appropriate. I do not find the wording unusual. Call when you can implies, when you get up, when its convenient, whenever. I think it sounds like a courteous tone, my BF texts me this open ended tone of texts frequently. It is a "no pressure" text and he wouldnt bother me, be surprised, or worried if I didnt call or return the text for 2 days. He knows I have kids, am busy and we have separate lives.

The relationship between the two young people was said to be on again-off again. I can see many reasons for this and one thing which I am unsure about is if BF a student. Does anyone know? What is he studying and where is he taking classes? It could be relevant if he is a serious student and also needs to work. IMO it is healthy for a student to be sober, focused and diligent to succeed and reach their goals. If BF was looking out for number 1, himself, he would be keeping himself on track, even if Adrienne wasn't. He need not display co-dependency issues.

jmo

 

[SandSage]

Our AC is broken so it has not been cooler than 95 degrees in this house all night; not conducive to sleeping so I have read and re-read. Gone back to the beginning, re-visited the middle and end up right back here with a big fat NUTHIN'.

Feeling so deflated and Adrienne is feeling farther and farther away... somethings gotta give.

Good morning.

 

[GGE]

Our AC is broken so it has not been cooler than 95 degrees in this house all night; not conducive to sleeping so I have read and re-read. Gone back to the beginning, re-visited the middle and end up right back here with a big fat NUTHIN'.

Feeling so deflated and Adrienne is feeling farther and farther away... somethings gotta give.

Good morning.

When you can't find anything, go to the bottom of the list and take a second look, IMO.....

So, on an unrelated note, just came across another report page in crankycrankerson's /AmandaReckonwith's photobucket. I search daily multiple times for this report online so don't know how I missed this. I guess it's been in there for like five days!

 

[WideOpen]

I think it is also important at this point to go back and review the video of the room mates SD to see if there is anything that might stand out now that seemed unimportant in the beginning. I was initially shocked by the flippant attitude of SD when I watched the videos, she was almost smirking and acting like it was a joke. Or, as some other people suggested she was just giddy being in front of the cameras?

I was thinking that if Adrienne had been in the hospital for a month, ill and had a recovery period she may have stayed with her parents for awhile after being released. She may have actually spent quite a bit of time away from her apartment and at home or some other environment where she was getting support and care in her healing.
What may have been happening though, back at the apartment, could have been a shift of friendships. The party girls (room mates) invite new and unknown? person/s into the home and basically push Adrienne out by making her uncomfortable. Kids are often shallow and cruel. It has been said her lease was up and its likely the room mates had already replaced her.

What do these thoughts have to do with Adrienne missing? IDK, if I think about the "new" people who may have been in the apartment picture and Adrienne not being part of "that circle of friends" it seems more likely that someone bad was lurking in their presence, intentional or not. Adrienne was vulnerable.

jmo

 

[GGE]

And to keep them at least all on one page, here's another version of the screenshot I had grabbed a few days ago of another page:

and of course then theres the scan of the page that was supplied here by MissD with the help of kymas who supplied a copy of the report (thanks guys!):

roughly 3 pages down, 30 to go.

 

[SandSage]

When you can't find anything, go to the bottom of the list and take a second look, IMO.....

So, on an unrelated note, just came across another report page in crankycrankerson's /AmandaReckonwith's photobucket. I search daily multiple times for this report online so don't know how I missed this. I guess it's been in there for like five days!

GGE, can you post a link to the photo... can't enlarge it to read it. TIA <3

 

[karenky]

When you can't find anything, go to the bottom of the list and take a second look, IMO.....

So, on an unrelated note, just came across another report page in crankycrankerson's /AmandaReckonwith's photobucket. I search daily multiple times for this report online so don't know how I missed this. I guess it's been in there for like five days!

What does, "Salina's phone was turned off during the time of the investigation" mean???

 

[GGE]

GGE, can you post a link to the photo... can't enlarge it to read it. TIA <3

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/...n/Adrienne Salinas -AZ-/072513police-rpt.jpg

just hold down ctrl and + at the same time and do that a couple of times to enlarge it, for anyone who didn't know. There is no higher resolution photo of this available at this time that I can find.

edit - someone let me know if you want me to just transcribe it outright.

 

[WideOpen]

Our AC is broken so it has not been cooler than 95 degrees in this house all night; not conducive to sleeping so I have read and re-read. Gone back to the beginning, re-visited the middle and end up right back here with a big fat NUTHIN'.

Feeling so deflated and Adrienne is feeling farther and farther away... somethings gotta give.

Good morning.

Morning!

O/T
Not fun-I hope you get it fixed today! This happened to me this summer, while it is not as hot where I am, as it is in AZ, South Carolina is humid and hot-The house was at 85-I cant imagine 95. I was without air-conditioning for a week, was a quiet week for me though because the kids moved in with friends during that time. lol



jmo

 

[margarita25]

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/...n/Adrienne Salinas -AZ-/072513police-rpt.jpg

just hold down ctrl and + at the same time and do that a couple of times to enlarge it, for anyone who didn't know. There is no higher resolution photo of this available at this time that I can find.

edit - someone let me know if you want me to just transcribe it outright.

Me, me!
:seeya:

Please and thank you G!

 

[GGE]

I have a hunch that if it was a complete stranger, then her phone has been dismantled, broken, and tossed, phone in one area and sim card and battery in another,

BUT

my hunch is that *IF* a female acquaintance of Adrienne's had A's phone in her possession at any point that night, my gut says that it is still in this female's possession AND I suspect she will at some point turn it on briefly, and it will ping, and I hope that LE is still watching for that.

A girl is not going to dismantle, break, and throw out a perfectly good smartphone and surely not one that belonged to a friend of hers, and sometimes a person believes that the only way to keep something from being found is to hang onto it.

All just a hunch, don't know why, surely could be wrong.