AZ AZ - Adrienne Salinas, 19, Tempe , 15 June 2013 - #6

[cluciano63]

How long was it before LE first spoke with cab driver? Was it on the Sunday, or later in the week? Wondering how clear his memory would be, or if the calls stood out in anyway.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Omg amazing general news this morning - FBI just busted one of the largest sex trafficking rings in the USA! Over 100 children saved we believe!!!!

Omg omg yay! It's like Christmas!!!!!!

Updated: here's latest article!!!

http://m.theepochtimes.com/n3/214044-police-find-105-children-in-sex-trafficking-bust/

 

[GGE]

Omg amazing general news this morning - FBI just busted one of the largest sex trafficking rings in the USA! Over 100 children saved we believe!!!!

Omg omg yay! It's like Christmas!!!!!!

Updated: here's latest article!!!

http://m.theepochtimes.com/n3/214044-police-find-105-children-in-sex-trafficking-bust/

Wow, 105 children found and recovered between the ages of 9 and 18, "most between 13-16". Great news!

 

[cab guy]

Cab guy, you said in the last thread that another one of your cabbies was questioned. Why was he singled out?

He was the only other Cab Guy driver still working Scottsdale-Tempe area during the time of the call and therefore, he showed up on the call log several times that morning.
That's all I can figure...only LE knows for sure.

As an aside, this goes to my earlier contention that the police know lots that they do not tell. I knew that this driver was questioned and took a lie detector test but it was never made public. Most everything they are doing in this case has not gone public, and this is not unusual in investigations of this nature. Especially, hi profile media cases like this. So we need to develop new information, to be of any use. The police don't need us to go over their information, they are perfectly capable of processing the evidence and information they currently have. You very smart people become valuable by processing and developing new leads, and that's why I'm giving you as much information as I know, hoping that you can crack this case. Meanwhile, is it possible that we can forget about what information police are not giving us and instead just open our minds to all that is in front of us and try and solve this.--Cab Guy

 

[GGE]

cab_guy - you being right (which youprobably are) doesn't make me want the report any less. human nature, I guess. :wink:

 

[OldSteve]

I am afraid she may have been grabbed by a carful of young men returning from a night of partying, something like that. They may have stopped, tried to start a conversation and one of them jumped out and grabbed her. It could have been very fast.

I am convinced she is the one who went back, changed her clothes, and set out again on foot while contemplating a cab. She had already walked safely back from leaping from the BF's car, as well as from the accident (IMO) so what is one more little walk, if she gets, in the end, to where she wants to be? Only she didn't. But she did not seem to be concerned about walking alone, at least on this night, as we know for sure she did it at least once, when she certainly had the option of remaining in BF's car for a few more minutes, IMO. And seemingly again after the wreck.

Whomever grabbed her would have to had a vehicle, no?

Also, another thought - after being so ticked at her BF, she may have been approached by someone she knew or was not afraid of and for spite, revenge, or just to feel wanted decided to go with that person. Because of her health, she may have passed out or worse and ...

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Good post Steve (morning!)

You know I think you are really on to something here:

We have a young woman with questionable health drinking at an underage party. I worry her roommates could have also thought AS passed out/died due to alcohol poisoning rather than her health issues and in a panic decided to dispose of her instead of call the police/911?

This idea makes me want to hurl. Literally makes me sick.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Could something have happened and AS was put in her car and driven toward St. Luke's Hospital? But then they wrecked and couldnt get her to the hospital? So they decided after that to set up some elaborate cover up?

Ok I'm tumbling off in fantasy land now. Taking a break for a bit. Leaving it up to you guys.

 

[gngr~snap]

Could something have happened and AS was put in her car and driven toward St. Luke's Hospital? But then they wrecked and couldnt get her to the hospital? So they decided after that to set up some elaborate cover up?

Ok I'm tumbling off in fantasy land now. Taking a break for a bit. Leaving it up to you guys.

FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND AND DO BELIEVE HE LOVES A.S. AND PASSED A POLYGRAPH -
(however dumb it sounds)
I have considered this scenario.

AS is unconscious / passes away accidentally and panic ensued...
While unlikely the timeline fits in a way.
3:22 Bf calls roomie and informs there is a problem...with AS

A party goer/s hop in her car drives like a bat outta heck... headed to help...
wrecks car... hides it...returns to apartment... leaves key

calls a cab using AS name doesn't want other party goers to see cab.
calls Bf back 32 times Bf doesn't answer...
and finally texts I coming over...
at 4:43.
catches a ride with someone else sent by Bf while waiting on cab
cab driver calls - says be there in a min and turns cell off.

a cover up is hatched...


I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD OR COULD HONESTLY PULL IT OFF
BUT...
How messed up were they that night? Alcohol and drugs give people courage.. causes them to make bad decisions.

Sadly I think she was pulled into a van or something and abducted...

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[Tonto]

Looks like there is a lot of success in finding missing folks today. Hopefully Adrienne will be added to the list. Fingers crossed.

 

[Bravo]

Gosh I got nothing :banghead: So many great theories. What bothers me most is she could have been taken "anywhere":scared:

 

[nicmorg1888]

hi all
this is my first post here although I have been a lurker for a long time. First of all I would like to say what a great job all you guys do. I live in the UK so I have no idea about the area Adrienne lives in etc but this girl has just captured my heart I hope she is found soon. I just wanted to add one thing its probably a stupid idea but when I was a young partier the same age as Adrienne ( seems like many moons ago!) I would always phone two cab companies when trying to get home from parties and whatever cab turned up first that was the one I took, its amazing how long you can wait for a cab at 4-5 in the morning!!, do you think maybe Adrienne would have done something like this especially if she lived in a town where she thought maybe that was a busy time for cab drivers taking party goers home or whatever. Maybe cab guy could let us know generally how busy it is for cab drivers at that time in the morning? Anyway keep up the good work guys praying Adrienne is found soon.

 

[Seajay]

Wow, 105 children found and recovered between the ages of 9 and 18, "most between 13-16". Great news!

Hopefully this will resolved some of our missing children cases we have here where we haven't had a clue what happened to them. *fingers crossed*.

 

[Pseudonymph]

Several people have suggested that someone besides Adrienne returned her clothes/wallet to the apartment. But think about that, if you just harmed her in some way, why would you risk incriminating yourself or being captured so that her clothes and wallet could be found at her home? I myself would double bag them and dump them in a trash can far away. Returning them to the apartment makes no logical sense and wouldn't benefit a criminal in any way.

 

[cluciano63]

Several people have suggested that someone besides Adrienne returned her clothes/wallet to the apartment. But think about that, if you just harmed her in some way, why would you risk incriminating yourself or being captured so that her clothes and wallet could be found at her home? I myself would double bag them and dump them in a trash can far away. Returning them to the apartment makes no logical sense and wouldn't benefit a criminal in any way.

I agree, it makes no sense. Why would doing that make it look more like she took off on her own?? Much easier to dump her stuff or just leave it wherever she is, and say she never returned from when she left in her car.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Several people have suggested that someone besides Adrienne returned her clothes/wallet to the apartment. But think about that, if you just harmed her in some way, why would you risk incriminating yourself or being captured so that her clothes and wallet could be found at her home? I myself would double bag them and dump them in a trash can far away. Returning them to the apartment makes no logical sense and wouldn't benefit a criminal in any way.

This is another reason why I think AS either left those things herself after the wreck or maybe a roommate is involved in this. I'm sorry but the roomies haven't been ruled out and I've been feeling off about them (especially SD) from day 1.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND AND DO BELIEVE HE LOVES A.S. AND PASSED A POLYGRAPH -
(however dumb it sounds)
I have considered this scenario.

AS is unconscious / passes away accidentally and panic ensued...
While unlikely the timeline fits in a way.
3:22 Bf calls roomie and informs there is a problem...with AS

A party goer/s hop in her car drives like a bat outta heck... headed to help...
wrecks car... hides it...returns to apartment... leaves key

calls a cab using AS name doesn't want other party goers to see cab.
calls Bf back 32 times Bf doesn't answer...
and finally texts I coming over...
at 4:43.
catches a ride with someone else sent by Bf while waiting on cab
cab driver calls - says be there in a min and turns cell off.

a cover up is hatched...


I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD OR COULD HONESTLY PULL IT OFF
BUT...
How messed up were they that night? Alcohol and drugs give people courage.. causes them to make bad decisions.

Sadly I think she was pulled into a van or something and abducted...

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I don't think the bf did it. I believe if anyone is involved in this capacity in some elaborate cover up, it would be one of the two female roommates along with a male friend/boyfriend. I believe AS boyfriend is not involved in her disappearance. He has been cleared this far by LE. The roomies haven't. Partygoers haven't. Everyone is a POI there IMO.

Even a female could have pretended to be AS during those cab calls to make it seem like AS was ok after the wreck. Jmo.

 

[nicmorg1888]

We know that Adrienne was arguing with her boyfriend because he wasn't paying enough attention to her. Do we know who he was paying attention to? Maybe another female who maybe also had feelings for the boyfriend we know how jealous girls can get and some can be down right nasty with it especially considering how pretty Adrienne is. JMO please let me know if I am breaking any rules or anything still getting up to scratch with all the rules and regulations with this site. Thank you.

 

[gngr~snap]

I don't think the bf did it. I believe if anyone is involved in this capacity in some elaborate cover up, it would be one of the two female roommates along with a male friend/boyfriend. I believe AS boyfriend is not involved in her disappearance. He has been cleared this far by LE. The roomies haven't. Partygoers haven't. Everyone is a POI there IMO.

Even a female could have pretended to be AS during those cab calls to make it seem like AS was ok after the wreck. Jmo.

hmm... you have got me thinking.
I wonder if the 3:22 am call from the Bf to the room mate may have been the catalyst to the events that followed.

I have always thought the call for the cab is a red herring.
Now hearing a "girl" and
a vehicle were seen
and the dad says it is not AS
really makes me wonder if they were watching for the cab to show
to make it appear that she went missing on that walk to the AmPm.

That would explain why the cab was not called to come to the apartment bldg.
Distance her from the complex
so the focus of where AS
was last seen would be elsewhere .

Aren't the only two people who reported her returning to the apartment the 2 room mates?

That "quiet angry" comment just bugs me.
If she was having a major snit fit
(screaming/throwing stuff etc.)
MOST of the party goers would have been aware of her return.

I still don't get AS's last post on instagram!
"All dressed up and nowhere to go but crazy"

Maybe AS knew it was gonna be a wild night...
but who says that when they know they are having a party?
It'snot like she was going to be all alone watching the paint dry...

color me confused!

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[2Hip2BSquare]

We know that Adrienne was arguing with her boyfriend because he wasn't paying enough attention to her. Do we know who he was paying attention to? Maybe another female who maybe also had feelings for the boyfriend we know how jealous girls can get and some can be down right nasty with it especially considering how pretty Adrienne is. JMO please let me know if I am breaking any rules or anything still getting up to scratch with all the rules and regulations with this site. Thank you.

Thank you! This has crossed my mind so many times but the idea is so repugnant it's been difficult to focus on and fully ascertain.

I worry that one of the roomies or a female at the party was trying to flirt with AS bf. They all knew each other (the roomies, AS, the bf) since grade school practically. Imo There's a lot of motiv for a crime of passion with people of such close and extensive relationships/friendships.

AND then SD actually throws another party the next night after AS disappears? I'm sorry but if my friend had a horrible/tough night arguing with her bf and she seemed upset, I would call her the next day at least to see if she was feeling better and get increasingly concerned if I didn't hear back. Last thing I would think of when my roomie is not around after having a tough night is say "ok, let's keep the party Goin!"